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Will there be a chance the (3) has ever ran on the R62A's such as like the (1)(6) or (7) trains has?

The (3) used to be equipped with R62As 9 car single units back in the day, until they were switched over to the (7) in the 2000s. Also a few sets from the (1) ran on the (3) earlier this year during a weekend G.O.

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The (3) used to be equipped with R62As 9 car single units back in the day, until they were switched over to the (7) in the 2000s. Also a few sets from the (1) ran on the (3) earlier this year during a weekend G.O.

Actually in 2001 the (3) was extended to 10 car units before the swap with the (7) even happened.

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Imagine the R142A's or the R142's ran on the  (1)  (3)  (7) or the  (S) trains. Has that ever happened?

The (3) was supposed to get the 142s when they first came out, but unfortunately that didn't happen.

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The (3) was supposed to get the 142s when they first came out, but unfortunately that didn't happen.

We only have one person to blame:

 

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I know we like to blame Bloomberg for the placement of the 142s on the (4), and perhaps he did have something to do with it. However, from an operational standpoint, it makes more sense that the 142s were assigned to the (4) instead of the (3). With the amount of service the (4) provides as one of two east side express lines, that line sorely needed newer trains to meet the ever-increasing demand.

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I know we like to blame Bloomberg for the placement of the 142s on the (4), and perhaps he did have something to do with it. However, from an operational standpoint, it makes more sense that the 142s were assigned to the (4) instead of the (3). With the amount of service the (4) provides as one of two east side express lines, that line sorely needed newer trains to meet the ever-increasing demand.

Yeah, but the IRT Seventh Avenue Line only has one NTT which is the (2) train but the (1) and (3) are using R62/A's and they're old since it's made since the late 1980's and the R142's were made in the early 2000's.

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Yeah, but the IRT Seventh Avenue Line only has one NTT which is the (2) train but the (1) and (3) are using R62/A's and they're old since it's made since the late 1980's and the R142's were made in the early 2000's.

It doesn't matter if the Seventh Avenue Line has only one line with NTTs, the R62/As are still in decent WORKING condition and got another decade or so for useful service life so they are NOT going anywhere anytime soon.

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Yeah, but the IRT Seventh Avenue Line only has one NTT which is the (2) train but the (1) and (3) are using R62/A's and they're old since it's made since the late 1980's and the R142's were made in the early 2000's.

Why are you so concerned about the fact that Seventh Avenue has only one line with NTTs?

 

 

 

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Why are you so concerned about the fact that Seventh Avenue has only one line with NTTs?

 

 

 

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Remember, the  (2) was about to have R62A's and the  (1) was going to have some R62A's from the  (7) and had one set of R62 from the  (3) . But the  (2) continued with the R142's and the  (1) with one R62's and R62A's and the  (3) continues with the R62's. So the  (MTA) scheduled to replace the R62's in 2020 and the R62A's in 2023. For now, the  (2) train is the only NTT for Seventh Avenue.

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Remember, the  (2) was about to have R62A's and the  (1) was going to have some R62A's from the  (7) and had one set of R62 from the  (3) . But the  (2) continued with the R142's and the  (1) with one R62's and R62A's and the  (3) continues with the R62's. So the  (MTA) scheduled to replace the R62's in 2020 and the R62A's in 2023. For now, the  (2) train is the only NTT for Seventh Avenue.

You still haven't answered my question, why does this matter?

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Wait I have a question, I heard rumors when I when to the New York Transit Museum that the (7) train instead of being IRT, used to be a BMT or IND line, Is this rumor true?

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Wait I have a question, I heard rumors when I when to the New York Transit Museum that the (7) train instead of being IRT, used to be a BMT or IND line, Is this rumor true?

Yes and no. It was always IRT, but used some BMT cars until 1949.

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Yes and no. It was always IRT, but used some BMT cars until 1949.

Oh, so that't why the (7) train has 2 divisions A and B? And what BMT cars did the (7) used?

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Oh, so that't why the (7) train has 2 divisions A and B? And what BMT cars did the (7) used?

The (7) is A division

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I heard the (7)<7> is both since one of the divisions is 8-10 cars and the other division is 11 cars.

It used both BMT/IRT trains until 1949. And even then, the (7) was only an IRT line.

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Both Flushing and Astoria were built as IRT, and connected to the system via the Queensboro Bridge and Second Ave. el. The BMT then connected with it, but had to run IRT sized shuttles (8 Astoria, 9 Flushing) from Queensboro Plaza, while the IRT ran 7 to Flushing, its own original 8 to Astoria, and the el services. In 1949, it was rearranged, so that IRT picked up Flushing, and BMT picked up Astoria, which was then converted to what would become "B Div". Since the connection to the IRT was gone, when the NYCTA Control Center was created, both lines were connected to the B Div. map and radio dispatcher desk.

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