danielhg121 Posted December 30, 2016 Share #6776 Posted December 30, 2016 I don't think they can put anymore R142a's on the besides replacing the 2 R62a's. There's more R142a's on the than R62a's on the and no more storage space on the . Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted December 30, 2016 Share #6777 Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Don't really know either, probably in March/April 2017. What's with the r142a's on the , will one of those still be assigned to the even after CBTC is done? The is keeping 7591-7655, CBTC is on 7211-7590. Edited December 30, 2016 by CH3348 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted December 30, 2016 Share #6778 Posted December 30, 2016 That's 6 and a half full set. Does westchester connect and rearrange trains on the regular? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dj Hammers Posted December 30, 2016 Share #6779 Posted December 30, 2016 but the doors open and close faster, and manual announcements are much quicker than the automated... higher dwelling with R62A's? I find it hard to believe.the speed at which the doors open/close and the announcements play has no effect on dwell times on the lex. The limiting factor on dwells on the lex is the crowding; crowding-induced dwells are lower are R142 equipment due to the wider doors, local recycle feature, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted December 30, 2016 Share #6780 Posted December 30, 2016 I still like to see R62A on and R142A on ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted December 31, 2016 Share #6781 Posted December 31, 2016 Just out of curiosity is it feasible to just retrofit the last two R62A's or would that cost too much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayParkwayW Posted December 31, 2016 Share #6782 Posted December 31, 2016 Just out of curiosity is it feasible to just retrofit the last two R62A's or would that cost too much. I doubt that's even possible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestFarms1111 Posted January 2, 2017 Share #6783 Posted January 2, 2017 Will Westchester yard going to return the R62A loaner #2221 - #2225 / #2346 - #2350 send it back to 240 street yard line.. Why is it being delayed. Because 240 street yard line have 1 set of R62 from line... Why Unionport Yard home line. Have R142 #7081- #7085 from Jerome Yard . Will Unionport Yard willing to return R142 #7081 - #7085 send back to Jerome yard ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted January 3, 2017 Share #6784 Posted January 3, 2017 I've been following this thread since Day One. That being said I have a question directed at two different groups of people. To the people who consider themselves rail fans " what is the obsession on the relative brightness of the car body lights about "? I realize that the "new, shiny factor " comes into play and everyone, including me, would like to see a uniform look throughout the line fleet but the nitpicking seems rather petty to me. The other question is directed at the original posters and my RTO people. SubwayGuy, RTOman, Snowblock, Lance, and AndrewJC probably know where I'm going. Is the CBTC testing being done now or in the near future? I'm asking those of you in the second group because it seems that you understand the big picture. This project is a SIGNALING upgrade first and foremost. The car equipment, whether R142, R142A, R188 or even R62A, ( if it was possible), are NOT the sole or main component of the whole project. To put it in the simplest terms if, after all the fleet transfers and equipment upgrades, the line can't increase the amount of train service and cut headways it adds up to a failure. To me the first group seems to miss the whole reason for project. Just my opinion though. Carry on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted January 3, 2017 Share #6785 Posted January 3, 2017 Is the CBTC testing being done now or in the near future? I know that they've at least been taking certain trains out of service to test each of those trains' CBTC components. I've seen a few sets running on CBTC, but I'm not sure if said testing is done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted January 3, 2017 Share #6786 Posted January 3, 2017 I've been following this thread since Day One. That being said I have a question directed at two different groups of people. To the people who consider themselves rail fans " what is the obsession on the relative brightness of the car body lights about "? I realize that the "new, shiny factor " comes into play and everyone, including me, would like to see a uniform look throughout the line fleet but the nitpicking seems rather petty to me. The other question is directed at the original posters and my RTO people. SubwayGuy, RTOman, Snowblock, Lance, and AndrewJC probably know where I'm going. Is the CBTC testing being done now or in the near future? I'm asking those of you in the second group because it seems that you understand the big picture. This project is a SIGNALING upgrade first and foremost. The car equipment, whether R142, R142A, R188 or even R62A, ( if it was possible), are NOT the sole or main component of the whole project. To put it in the simplest terms if, after all the fleet transfers and equipment upgrades, the line can't increase the amount of train service and cut headways it adds up to a failure. To me the first group seems to miss the whole reason for project. Just my opinion though. Carry on. While that may be true, the project feels like it's being half assed. Current signals aren't being repaired and are failing daily. "new" trains are coming in looking like trash, the weird lighting is noticed by normal passengers, and it looks like the MTA isn't putting as much effort as they should. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted January 4, 2017 Share #6787 Posted January 4, 2017 While that may be true, the project feels like it's being half assed. Current signals aren't being repaired and are failing daily. "new" trains are coming in looking like trash, the weird lighting is noticed by normal passengers, and it looks like the MTA isn't putting as much effort as they should. I seriously doubt that the signals aren't being repaired. If that was even remotely true i can assure you that the feds would shut down the whole line. Are the same signals failing daily? Perhaps that's due to their impending replacement ? I remember a time up at Dyre Avenue where we were re-using "old" White Plains Road and Third Ave El signals because that's the only place we could get "old" IRT signals at the time. Maybe the same thing is happening on the line, Aren't these signals you speak of intended to be the back up signal system after CBTC goes online? I don't know. I happened to notice that the "new" segment of the along Second Avenue had signal problems today. These things happen. Just how many "new" trains do you think the runs ? IIRC the project included 33 new cars, not trains. Most of the present fleet can hardly be considered new if it's the s hand me downs. Were people complaining about the lighting when the fleet was 100% R62A ? I'm saying to give the whole project time until it's completed before passing final judgement. The fact that you appear to be criticizing an "unfinished" project does appear to be premature, IMO. We're just viewing the present day situation from different perspectives. No problem. Carry on. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted January 5, 2017 Share #6788 Posted January 5, 2017 I seriously doubt that the signals aren't being repaired. If that was even remotely true i can assure you that the feds would shut down the whole line. Are the same signals failing daily? Perhaps that's due to their impending replacement ? I remember a time up at Dyre Avenue where we were re-using "old" White Plains Road and Third Ave El signals because that's the only place we could get "old" IRT signals at the time. Maybe the same thing is happening on the line, Aren't these signals you speak of intended to be the back up signal system after CBTC goes online? I don't know. I happened to notice that the "new" segment of the along Second Avenue had signal problems today. These things happen. Just how many "new" trains do you think the runs ? IIRC the project included 33 new cars, not trains. Most of the present fleet can hardly be considered new if it's the s hand me downs. Were people complaining about the lighting when the fleet was 100% R62A ? I'm saying to give the whole project time until it's completed before passing final judgement. The fact that you appear to be criticizing an "unfinished" project does appear to be premature, IMO. We're just viewing the present day situation from different perspectives. No problem. Carry on. I'll agree on with with waiting on it, but I'm not happy with the current direction it's been going in lately. Hopefully they work out these kinks ASAP because lately is becoming unbearable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 1, 2017 Share #6789 Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) 2146-2150: Westchester to Corona as a loan Edited February 1, 2017 by CH3348 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted February 1, 2017 Share #6790 Posted February 1, 2017 Why are a set of R62A's heading to Corona tho? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted February 1, 2017 Share #6791 Posted February 1, 2017 Why are a set of R62A's heading to Corona tho? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Its covering for an R188 thats OOS due to the derailment at Willets Point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted February 2, 2017 Share #6792 Posted February 2, 2017 Its covering for an R188 thats OOS due to the derailment at Willets Point. What derailment???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayParkwayW Posted February 2, 2017 Share #6793 Posted February 2, 2017 What derailment????Some time last week a train derailed at Mets-Willets Point. https://www.google.com/amp/newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/01/30/queens-subway-derail/amp/?client=safari 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 2, 2017 Share #6794 Posted February 2, 2017 Some time last week a train derailed at Mets-Willets Point. https://www.google.com/amp/newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/01/30/queens-subway-derail/amp/?client=safari And then the next day another one derailed in the same spot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted February 2, 2017 Share #6795 Posted February 2, 2017 And then the next day another one derailed in the same spot Wow....So 2 derailments in the same spot....What it was... Track conditions,Bad train wheels,What???? Thank god no one got hurt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted February 2, 2017 Share #6796 Posted February 2, 2017 Wait how come only 1 set of R188's are OOS, shouldnt there be two, then? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 2, 2017 Share #6797 Posted February 2, 2017 Wait how come only 1 set of R188's are OOS, shouldnt there be two, then? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app One of them was relatively minor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted February 2, 2017 Share #6798 Posted February 2, 2017 Cool. Does anybody know the numbers of the set that derailed is? Would they have to lift the car body off the trucks and redo the whole thing and is this gonna happen at Corona or some other place? Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 6, 2017 Share #6799 Posted February 6, 2017 1921-1925: Westechester to Corona as a loan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 6, 2017 Share #6800 Posted February 6, 2017 1961-5 also to Corona 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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