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11 minutes ago, m2fwannabe said:

So, when do the Broadway ((1)) R-62A's loaned to Westchester ((6)) for the last several years start heading home (or 207, or wherever)? 

Thats what I was asking earlier. Apparently, there still needed on the (6). Some of the loaned R62As have been there going on 4 years.

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1 hour ago, jon2305 said:

Thats what I was asking earlier. Apparently, there still needed on the (6). Some of the loaned R62As have been there going on 4 years.

I heard at least one 240th set is Permanent to make up service and keep a rather decent spare factor.

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7 hours ago, Bosco said:

This whole thing.  

The MDBF converted R188 sets spiked around 2016, after more of the sets came in and got much-needed maintenance.  The R142As, meanwhile, had one of the worst MBDFs of any fleet, worse even than many SMEE fleets.  Those so concerned about the fleet on the (6) should be more concerned with maintenance, which is a much bigger factor on service reliability and fleet availability.  Remember that one set on the (6) that had God knows what issue and was sidelined for a few months?  That's a train that should've been in service and wasn't because of shoddy maintenance (if there was any).

As far as the converted sets looking beat up, with any luck, the upgrades they've been giving some of the trains (including older ones) will come to the R188s.  Several R62As on the (1) now have LED lighting, and there is at least one set of R142s with the new lighting and floor mats.  That should help not make the C-car stand out the way it does.

They made mechanical upgrades when the 142As got converted to 188s, the MTA admitted this in a document and plans to add these same upgrades to the remaining 142A's in the future. The spike in MDBF is likely due to the mechanical upgrades Kawasaki made.

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17 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

They made mechanical upgrades when the 142As got converted to 188s, the MTA admitted this in a document and plans to add these same upgrades to the remaining 142A's in the future. The spike in MDBF is likely due to the mechanical upgrades Kawasaki made.

Nah I find it to be because Corona has to be the best maintenance yard out there. The R62A's on the (6) now are in worse shape then when they were at Corona.

Speaking of which, wasn't the original idea to have CBTC on Lexington Av then on Flushing?

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4 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Nah I find it to be because Corona has to be the best maintenance yard out there. The R62A's on the (6) now are in worse shape then when they were at Corona.

Speaking of which, wasn't the original idea to have CBTC on Lexington Av then on Flushing?

When the 62A's were at Corona their MDBF was just average, I agree that Corona has better maintenance than Westchester but I doubt that's the reason the 188s MDBF spiked. Most of the remaining 142A's have been on the (4) for quite some time now and the MDBF is still lousy, AFAIK the (4) line maintenance shop does a good job of maintaining their cars, never heard of the Bombardier 142s at Jerome having issues and the bomb 142's MDBF is pretty good. 

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3 hours ago, LGA Link N train said:

Poor things. If you ask me, they should do an LCD enhancement on all R142A's/R188's like how Corona did with 7501

Include the R142s as well.  They are aging better than the R142A displays, but not by much.  I'm hoping they do it sooner than later as part of SMS.

Also, if the R142As are so great (and I can understand), be thankful they're off the (6).

On 5/23/2018 at 8:29 PM, trainfan22 said:

They made mechanical upgrades when the 142As got converted to 188s, the MTA admitted this in a document and plans to add these same upgrades to the remaining 142A's in the future. The spike in MDBF is likely due to the mechanical upgrades Kawasaki made.

I was referring to the spike the converted R188s had in 2016.  And it seems those mechanical upgrades are on almost all of the rest of the R142As, especially the door motors (which are one of the weakest links on the new trains).

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Breakdown of the R62A (6) train total:

1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1831-1840, 1911-1920, 1942-1938-1926-1924-1934, 1943-1944+1947-1949, 1954+1957-1960, 1961-2155: cars that were swapped from Corona Yard (some cars were converted to a full 5-car set)

2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2475: at first, loaners but replacements moving the remaining R142As to the (4) train. 

*Spare factor was decreased by 2-3 b/c of ridership on the Second Av line

 

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23 hours ago, Calvin said:

Breakdown of the R62A (6) train total:

1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1831-1840, 1911-1920, 1942-1938-1926-1924-1934, 1943-1944+1947-1949, 1954+1957-1960, 1961-2155: cars that were swapped from Corona Yard (some cars were converted to a full 5-car set)

2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2475: at first, loaners but replacements moving the remaining R142As to the (4) train. 

*Spare factor was decreased by 2-3 b/c of ridership on the Second Av line

 

2221-2225/2346-2350 & 2456-2475 are now Former 240th Street sets. Their Westchester’s cars until the R62A retires. (Although, 240th should send 1826-1830/1841-1860 in exchange for 2456-2475 & 1861-1870 in exchange for 2221-2225/2346-2350) 

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55 minutes ago, VIP said:

2221-2225/2346-2350 & 2456-2475 are now Former 240th Street sets. Their Westchester’s cars until the R62A retires. (Although, 240th should send 1826-1830/1841-1860 in exchange for 2456-2475 & 1861-1870 in exchange for 2221-2225/2346-2350) 

Thats exactly what should've been done.

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18 hours ago, VIP said:

2221-2225/2346-2350 & 2456-2475 are now Former 240th Street sets. Their Westchester’s cars until the R62A retires. (Although, 240th should send 1826-1830/1841-1860 in exchange for 2456-2475 & 1861-1870 in exchange for 2221-2225/2346-2350) 

This.

Should keep things in order. Common scene.

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1901, 1904, 1907, 1908, and 2090-2095 to Westchester.

The singles (1901, 1904, 1907, 1908) are going to Westchester, but 2090-2095 went with the singles to move them around (I believe it'll return to Corona IINM). 

They were supposed to be sent to 207 St, but due to (A) service being cut back to 168 St for the weekend, it went via the (D) line instead. 

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As of June 8:

1901, 1904, 1907, and 1908 have been moved to Westchester, accompanied by 2091-2095.

1902-1903, 1905-1906, 1910, and 1923 are staying for work service and/or extra service. However, some singles could be leaving Corona.

2081-2085 is still at Corona, presumably going to Westchester soon.

2091-2095 went with the singles, but it returned after the transfer and is still at Corona. 

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9 hours ago, Coney Island Av said:

As of June 8:

1901, 1904, 1907, and 1908 have been moved to Westchester, accompanied by 2091-2095.

1902-1903, 1905-1906, 1910, and 1923 are staying for work service and/or extra service. However, some singles could be leaving Corona.

2081-2085 is still at Corona, presumably going to Westchester soon.

2091-2095 went with the singles, but it returned after the transfer and is still at Corona. 

1901/1904/1907/1908 are singles and are only four singles thus not suitable for full length (6) service. 2081-2085 & 2091-2095 are going to Westchester by the end of the month. 1901-1905 are going to be reconfigured into a five car set. 

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1 hour ago, Coney Island Av said:

1923 with 2091-2095 to 239 St Yard

1923 I presume will be linked with 1901-1904-1907-1908 to form a five-car set. 

I think 2091-2095 will either:

A) be hooked to the newly formed five-car set mentioned earlier so they can form a full-length train

or

B) will return to Corona Yard 

That formation makes no sense.

Why would 2091-2095 go back to Corona yard a second time? Its already a linked 5-car. 

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