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36 minutes ago, jon2305 said:

That formation makes no sense.

Why would 2091-2095 go back to Corona yard a second time? Its already a linked 5-car. 

I guess I should clarify: I only said it "might" go back, but I'm unsure if it will, hence why I put that it could go either-or. The five-car set was there to move the single(s) around.

Besides, 1924-1926-1934-1938-1942 all went as a scrambled five-car set, so 1901-1904-1907-1908 could possibly be linked to 1923. 

And an FYI- the singles mentioned earlier were transferred on separate occasions. 

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5 hours ago, Coney Island Av said:

1923 with 2091-2095 to 239 St Yard

1923 I presume will be linked with 1901-1904-1907-1908 to form a five-car set. 

I think 2091-2095 will either:

A) be hooked to the newly formed five-car set mentioned earlier so they can form a full-length train

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B) will return to Corona Yard 

 

3 hours ago, Coney Island Av said:

I guess I should clarify: I only said it "might" go back, but I'm unsure if it will, hence why I put that it could go either-or. The five-car set was there to move the single(s) around.

Besides, 1924-1926-1934-1938-1942 all went as a scrambled five-car set, so 1901-1904-1907-1908 could possibly be linked to 1923. 

And an FYI- the singles mentioned earlier were transferred on separate occasions. 

Will or might there's some difference, but I do see your point.

I want to point out I saw 1908 at 207th St Yard doing refuse duty.

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From what I've noticing, whenever a R62A pop-ups for garbage duty on the Flushing line, it's mostly 1901-1908 that's seen. 

42 St Shuttle units can be seen doing garbage duty on the mainline. 

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Speaking of the Flushing units, I wonder if they are going to take out the circle and diamond LED and move them over to the (6) units (Shuttle units as well).  

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20 hours ago, Calvin said:

From what I've noticing, whenever a R62A pop-ups for garbage duty on the Flushing line, it's mostly 1901-1908 that's seen. 

42 St Shuttle units can be seen doing garbage duty on the mainline. 

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Speaking of the Flushing units, I wonder if they are going to take out the circle and diamond LED and move them over to the (6) units (Shuttle units as well).  

What about the 240 St units that are on the (6)?  If those are being loaned indefinitely, shouldn't they also get those LEDs?

It was really stupid of them to separate 1921-1925 in the first place, perhaps they could reunify that set.

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4 hours ago, Bosco said:

What about the 240 St units that are on the (6)?  If those are being loaned indefinitely, shouldn't they also get those LEDs? They should.

From what I can tell you, 2456-2475 are Westchester units that are there to bump off the R142As to the (4) line. 

 

Also, 2091-2095 is in-service on the (6) with the bonnets slightly painted with the steel.

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Just now, Calvin said:

No, still at Corona for 2081 to have a full-width cab.

Will 1905 leave Corona? Some of the singles you mentioned were staying at Corona actually left (1901, 1904, 1907, 1908, 1923). 

1902, 1903, 1906, and 1910 are all hooked to flatbed cars, so that means they'll be staying for work service. However, 1905 is isolated from the rest and is sitting in front of an R188 by itself. 

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Mentioned already ^

To put everything together on the last day of June: 

R188s (7211-7590, 7811-7936) are all housed at Corona for the Flushing (7) line while the R142As (7591-7660, 7666-7810) are all out of Jerome Yard (4) line. 

*R142s from 6301-7115 are on White Plains line/Nostrand Av (2)(5) with the (4) 1101-1250, 7116-7180 at Jerome Yard. 

 

R62/A: (1306-1310, 1431-1438), 1826-1830, 1841-1900, 2156-2455 (1) Broadway North-7 Av Local

(1301-1305, 1311-1430, 1441-1625) (3) 7 Av Express, (S) 42 St Shuttle units- *1921-1922-1925, 1927-1933, 1935-1936, 1937, 1939, 1940-1941, 1945-1946, 1950-1953, 1955-1956 *chosen 3-car train with LED lights

 

* (6) Lexington Av Local/Pelham line: 

1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1911-1920, [1934-1924-1926-1938-1942, 1943-1944:1947-1949, 1954:1957-1960], 1961-2155: swapped units with the (7) , [converted units to a 5-car train]

2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2475: additional units from the (1) to substitute the remaining R142As on that line with deduction of trains

*IMO, it could've been 1826-1830 with 2451-2455 replaced from 2346-2350

 

-- 1901-1908, 1910, 1923 are to be determined with some at the Flushing line for work service

 

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54 minutes ago, Calvin said:

Mentioned already ^

To put everything together on the last day of June: 

R188s (7211-7590, 7811-7936) are all housed at Corona for the Flushing (7) line while the R142As (7591-7660, 7666-7810) are all out of Jerome Yard (4) line. 

*R142s from 6301-7115 are on White Plains line/Nostrand Av (2)(5) with the (4) 1101-1250, 7116-7180 at Jerome Yard. 

 

So the (4) is almost exactly 50/50 R142 and R142A... What's the story with 7661-7665 though?  Was that the set that died and was sitting in Westchester for awhile?  Also, has serviced been increased on the (2) or (5) or do those extra R142s just serve as spares for both lines?

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49 minutes ago, Bosco said:

So the (4) is almost exactly 50/50 R142 and R142A... What's the story with 7661-7665 though?  Was that the set that died and was sitting in Westchester for awhile?  Also, has serviced been increased on the (2) or (5) or do those extra R142s just serve as spares for both lines?

From what I've heard, it's at 207 St used for parts for other R142As. Who knows when it'll be back on the tracks. 

If you're wondering the set that was OOS from this year's winter is 7596-7610. 

As for the (2)(5) , they have extra trips added from their previous schedule (not a lot) but they do have more spares now. 

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On 6/30/2018 at 11:12 PM, Calvin said:

To put everything together on the last day of June: 

R188s (7211-7590, 7811-7936) are all housed at Corona for the Flushing (7) line while the R142As (7591-7660, 7666-7810) are all out of Jerome Yard (4) line. 

*R142s from 6301-7115 are on White Plains line/Nostrand Av (2)(5) with the (4) 1101-1250, 7116-7180 at Jerome Yard. 

 

R62/A: (1306-1310, 1431-1438), 1826-1830, 1841-1900, 2156-2455 (1) Broadway North-7 Av Local

(1301-1305, 1311-1430, 1441-1625) (3) 7 Av Express, (S) 42 St Shuttle units- *1921-1922-1925, 1927-1933, 1935-1936, 1937, 1939, 1940-1941, 1945-1946, 1950-1953, 1955-1956 *chosen 3-car train with LED lights

 

* (6) Lexington Av Local/Pelham line: 

1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1911-1920, [1934-1924-1926-1938-1942, 1943-1944:1947-1949, 1954:1957-1960], 1961-2155: swapped units with the (7) , [converted units to a 5-car train]

2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2475: additional units from the (1) to substitute the remaining R142As on that line with deduction of trains

*IMO, it could've been 1826-1830 with 2451-2455 replaced from 2346-2350

 

-- 1901-1908, 1910, 1923 are to be determined with some at the Flushing line for work service

So what happened to 7661-7665?

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My version of the "final" car assignment related to changes during the R-188 introduction:

IRT Car Assignment-July 1, 2018

1 (Red, 240 St. Yard, Bronx)-365 cars

10 GE/Bb R-62 1306-1310, 1431-1434, 1438 (5-car unitized).

355 WH R-62A 1826-1830, 1841-1900, 2156-2220, 2226-2345, 2351-2456 (5-car unitized).

2 (239 St., Bronx)-395 cars

395 Am R-142 6301-6695 (5-car unitized).

--Am R-142 from 2 used on 5 as required.

--Am R-142 from 5 used on 2 as required.

3 (Orange, Livonia Yard, Brooklyn)-305 cars

305 GE/Bb R-62 1301-1305, 1311-1365, 1371-1430, 1441-1625 (5-car unitized).

4 (Jerome Yard, Bronx)-435 cars

140 ADT R-142A 7591-7730 (5-car unitized).

80 Bb R-142S 7731-7810 (5-car unitized).

215 Am R-142 1101-1250, 7116-7180 (5-car unitized).

5 (East 180 St., Bronx)-420 cars

420 Am R-142 6696-7115 (5-car unitized).  Used on OPTO.

--Am R-142 from 2 used on 5 as required.

--Am R-142 from 5 used on 2 as required.

6 (Westchester Yard, Bronx)-435 cars

15 WH R-62A 1911-1920, 1961-1965 (single units coupled as 5-car sets, some LED-equipped, 1911, 1915, 1916, 1920, 1961, 1965 have full-width cabs).

15 WH R-62A 1924, 1926, 1934, 1938, 1942-1944, 1947-1949, 1954, 1957-1960 (some LED-equipped, coupled as 5-car sets.  1934, 1942, 1943, 1949, 1954, 1960 have full-width cabs).

375 WH R-62A 1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1966-2155 (5-car unitized, LED-equipped, full-width cabs).

30 WH R-62A 2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2475 (5-car unitized, full-width cabs).

7 (Purple, Corona Yard, Queens)-506 cars

88 Bb R-188 (N) 7811-7898 (5- and 6-car unitized).

380 ADT R-188 (C) 7211-7590 (5-car unitized).

38 Bb R-188 (N) 7899-7936 (C-car).

5 WH R-62A 1902, 1903, 1905, 1906, 1910 (assigned to Work Service from Corona).

--1901-1908 and 1910 are equipped with four brake valve trips.

--All WH R-62A single units are used on Refuse Trains in summer.

S (Livonia Yard, Brooklyn)-24 cars assigned, 10 required

18 WH R-62A 1921, 1922, 1925, 1927, 1928, 1930-1933, 1935-1937, 1939, 1940, 1941, 1952, 1955, 1956 (single units, cars 1921, 1925, 1930, 1931, 1935, 1936, 1940, 1941, 1955, 1956 have full-width cabs at one end.  1922, 1928 are “Cuomo” modified with end seating only).

6 WH R-62A 1929, 1945, 1946, 1950, 1951, 1953 (3-car unitized, cars 1945, 1946, 1950, 1951 have full-width cabs at one end).

5 WH R-62A 1901, 1904, 1907, 1908, 1923 (assigned to IRT Work Service).

--WH R-62A single units are used on Refuse Trains in summer.

 

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