Fleet Swap Discussion Thread

[lyncdesert-]

Today as i was coming back from visting my family i saw a r160 siemens, Not in service bypassing 36st heading uptown to who knows where. 

After this, i got off the D and like right after the D train left another r160 siemens set bypassed the station i think it was deadheading to coney island yard.

Maybe theyre gonna start transfering them over? 

[RR503]

21 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

I have a feeling that the  line at the very least will still be using 46's past Dec 23rd. Only 2 and a half sets of out like what 45? sets of R46s have been transferred so far and were already at December 9th. They can probably only transfer like 1 or 2 sets a day at most? Yea CBTC will only be starting on the express tracks but service disruptions and G.O's... 

Old signals will likely be reactivated/CBTC placed in bypass for those sorts of disruptions 

[NewFlyer 230]

I wonder in the short time that the  and  had those R46’s running on them if some people got on the R46   thinking it was an  just because the  has been running with R46’s for probably over 30 years already. I don’t know how long the R46’s have been at Jamaica, all I know is that they symbolic to the R line.  When I think of the  line I think of the R46. The QBL is going to have no type of diversity once all the R46’s are gone. 

[VIP]

Y’all got it all wrong. Don’t know where y’all getting car class assignments from, but its inaccurate. There’s a special plan for the siemens R160’s and where they’ll end up. But, I’m just gonna sit back and let y’all carry on. 😉

[bwwnyc123]

All of the Siemens R160s should stay with Coney Island.

[R32 3838]

27 minutes ago, bwwnyc123 said:

All of the Siemens R160s should stay with Coney Island.

They can't, there's 260 of them. About 170 or all of them has to go to jamaica

 

Imo all of them are going

 

Btw the isn't getting R46's unless they need a train. They're mainly for the

Edited December 10, 2019 by R32 3838

[lyncdesert-]

7 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

I wonder in the short time that the  and  had those R46’s running on them if some people got on the R46   thinking it was an  just because the  has been running with R46’s for probably over 30 years already. I don’t know how long the R46’s have been at Jamaica, all I know is that they symbolic to the R line.  When I think of the  line I think of the R46. The QBL is going to have no type of diversity once all the R46’s are gone. 

Yeah people do confuse them and think its an R.

Ive rode the r46 N many times because i use the line everyday and people do get confused. People get in and ask is this an R is this an R? Then the conductor has clarify that its an N. I mean it has N signage all over but people are not used to it

[Around the Horn]

13 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

I wonder in the short time that the  and  had those R46’s running on them if some people got on the R46   thinking it was an  

That literally happened at every single stop in Manhattan all three times I've gotten one LOL

[Around the Horn]

10 hours ago, VIP said:

Y’all got it all wrong. Don’t know where y’all getting car class assignments from, but its inaccurate. There’s a special plan for the siemens R160’s and where they’ll end up. But, I’m just gonna sit back and let y’all carry on. 😉

Oh they're actually doing it?! Color me surprised...

[danielhg121]

3 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

Oh they're actually doing it?! Color me surprised...

Please share the insight

[NewFlyer 230]

4 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

That literally happened at every single stop in Manhattan all three times I've gotten one LOL

Riders of the  and  are going to learn real quick where their beloved R160’s went! 

[Union Tpke]

17 hours ago, VIP said:

Y’all got it all wrong. Don’t know where y’all getting car class assignments from, but its inaccurate. There’s a special plan for the siemens R160’s and where they’ll end up. But, I’m just gonna sit back and let y’all carry on. 😉

It will be very interesting if they follow through on this.

[R179 8258]

17 hours ago, VIP said:

Y’all got it all wrong. Don’t know where y’all getting car class assignments from, but its inaccurate. There’s a special plan for the siemens R160’s and where they’ll end up. But, I’m just gonna sit back and let y’all carry on. 😉

My money is on Concourse or Pitkin

[SubwayFan3000]

On 12/9/2019 at 9:36 PM, trainfan22 said:

I have a feeling that the  line at the very least will still be using 46's past Dec 23rd. Only 2 and a half sets of out like what 45? sets of R46s have been transferred so far and were already at December 9th. They can probably only transfer like 1 or 2 sets a day at most? Yea CBTC will only be starting on the express tracks but service disruptions and G.O's... 

Exactly and also i agree with you and @RR503

Edited December 11, 2019 by subwayfan1998

[VIP]

On 12/9/2019 at 9:36 PM, trainfan22 said:

I have a feeling that the  line at the very least will still be using 46's past Dec 23rd. Only 2 and a half sets of out like what 45? sets of R46s have been transferred so far and were already at December 9th. They can probably only transfer like 1 or 2 sets a day at most? Yea CBTC will only be starting on the express tracks but service disruptions and G.O's... 

Where did you hear this bizarre rumor? There’s no December 23rd deadline for anything down here. This CBTC swap has a “Projected” completion. The process of this swap will be at a similar pace to when the  lost it’s R142A’s to the  

[RedLine]

December 23 is for the express tracks between Jackson Heights and Forest Hills

[Around the Horn]

13 minutes ago, VIP said:

Where did you hear this bizarre rumor? There’s no December 23rd deadline for anything down here

People aren't paying attention to what they read lol

 

[trainfan22]

8 minutes ago, VIP said:

Where did you hear this bizarre rumor? There’s no December 23rd deadline for anything down here. This CBTC swap has a “Projected” completion. The process of this swap will be at a similar pace to when the  lost it’s R142A’s to the  

Uh, on here..? I read on here that CBTC will start testing with passenger trains between Roosevelt and 71st on the express tracks starting Dec 23rd. I *thought* they would want CBTC equipped trains only but @RR503 answered my question already as to how things will be handled.

[trainfan22]

1 hour ago, R179 8258 said:

My money is on Concourse or Pitkin

I'd love for the or lines to get 160s. 

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

9 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

That literally happened at every single stop in Manhattan all three times I've gotten one LOL

Doesn't help that the signs on those transferred R46s are busted. 

[NewFlyer 230]

1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Doesn't help that the signs on those transferred R46s are busted. 

I feel that Coney Island will care about fixing the signs more than Jamaica ever did. I don’t recall Pitkin’s R46’s having as many busted signs like Jamaica’s do. For the most part people know that if an R46 shows up along the Queens Blvd, Broadway and 4th Ave line it is an  train despite the sign being busted. Of course the  uses them too on the QBL but it’s usually mostly during rush hours when service is usually running normal.

[R32 3838]

1 hour ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

I feel that Coney Island will care about fixing the signs more than Jamaica ever did. I don’t recall Pitkin’s R46’s having as many busted signs like Jamaica’s do. For the most part people know that if an R46 shows up along the Queens Blvd, Broadway and 4th Ave line it is an  train despite the sign being busted. Of course the  uses them too on the QBL but it’s usually mostly during rush hours when service is usually running normal.

the signs are busted on any line including the . the signs are from 1990-91, they're old and after they updated the signs again in 2016-17 they became more unreliable.

 

when the R46's were on the , Most of the signs were M to broad st because the update screwed up the signs and some of the new codes didn't register with some cars.

Edited December 11, 2019 by R32 3838

[Jemorie]

On 12/10/2019 at 12:31 AM, NewFlyer 230 said:

I wonder in the short time that the  and  had those R46’s running on them if some people got on the R46   thinking it was an  just because the  has been running with R46’s for probably over 30 years already. I don’t know how long the R46’s have been at Jamaica, all I know is that they symbolic to the R line.  When I think of the  line I think of the R46. The QBL is going to have no type of diversity once all the R46’s are gone. 

 

22 hours ago, lyncdesert- said:

Yeah people do confuse them and think its an R.

Ive rode the r46 N many times because i use the line everyday and people do get confused. People get in and ask is this an R is this an R? Then the conductor has clarify that its an N. I mean it has N signage all over but people are not used to it

I haven’t ridden an R46 on the  (personally never will anyway unless it’s an emergency in which I need an alternative), but based on what you guys claimed, that’s because people are used to every car assignment that lasts for years on end. Anybody that sees an R62 pull up on the 7 Av express tracks or in a Brooklyn IRT station, everyone knows it’s a . Likewise, anyone that sees an R68/A pull up onto a CPW or 6 Av station, everyone knows it’s a  or . The first couple of days of the  /  car swap back in the Summers of 2011 and 2012, anytime an R32  pulled in, some people assumed it was a  making express stops to Euclid or 168. People memorize these trains because they ride them or used to ride them all the time going to work or school or places of entertainment. That’s just how it is.

But also keep in mind that people don’t even use their damn electronics to check the MTA Subway app and the  is foolish for having almost every B Division station (dunno about the  tho) consisting of only one or two countdown clocks on display near the end or in the middle of the platform. But yet, people spend so much time texting their doggone friends or family. And yet (in addition), the  can waste so much time and money spent on various countdown clocks that only show the time and the date in almost every B Division station (not sure about the ). *Shaking my head*

[subway4832]

13 hours ago, R179 8258 said:

My money is on Concourse or Pitkin

Wait Why would Pitkin need any 160s tho

[DaPr03]

On 12/9/2019 at 9:53 PM, lyncdesert- said:

Today as i was coming back from visting my family i saw a r160 siemens, Not in service bypassing 36st heading uptown to who knows where. 

After this, i got off the D and like right after the D train left another r160 siemens set bypassed the station i think it was deadheading to coney island yard.

Maybe theyre gonna start transfering them over? 

It was a rerouted R160 F via West End when heading to Coney Island, headed back out of service afterwards for some odd reason

Edited December 11, 2019 by DaPr03