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5 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Are there any R32's/R42's out on the (J) right now?

At least 4 trains of R-42s on J (no Z) yesterday AM.  Don't know afterward.  Look for yourself.

Many reports were to find transfers of R-160A-1s from ENY to 207 and R-32s from 207 to ENY last week.

For however this lasts, the general idea seems to revert the B Div fleet to status as a year ago.  Remember when that happened last time early 2019.

So, as for the R179s some have to understand the essentialy difference between whether a screw simply "exists" versus how deeply it must be inspected for sufficiently "fastened within."

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35 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Are there any R32's/R42's out on the (J) right now?

I’m on 4813 going express to Broadway junction

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1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

Which R32's got sent for Police Training? 

GE pair 3594/3595, they are at Floyd Bennett Field.

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32 minutes ago, Amtrak706 said:

GE pair 3594/3595, they are at Floyd Bennett Field.

Weren’t the GE cars some random oddballs that broke down a lot?

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2 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

As others revealed, 3878/79 has been out of service already long term.

3454/55 was sidelined and "supposed" to be processed but evidently was hastily brung back to the rails yesterday.

The other 16 cars (creating list of 20) were 3404/05, 3410/11, 3424/25, 3452/53, 3484/85, 3496/97, 3698/99, 3900/01.

None were back in  service as of yesterday's AM lists and would have been shocked to so noted.  Time will tell for the others but at least 12 of those were already being stripped this week.

So of the 234 surviving Phase I R32s, that means we have 208 in active revenue service (including the 4 work motor cars that were reactivated yesterday), 6 in work motor service, and 20 out of service (the 16 from last week, 3878/79, and 3786/87). Is this right?

 

3354/3355 - NYCT - In Service 207

3360/3361 - NYCT - In Service 207

3376/3377 - NYCT - In Service 207

3380/3381 - NYCT - In Service 207

3383/3890 - NYCT - In Service 207

3384/3385 - NYCT - In Service 207

3388/3389 - NYCT - In Service 207

3394/3395 - NYCT - In Service 207

3396/3397 - NYCT - In Service 207

3400/3401 - NYCT - In Service 207

3404/3405 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3406/3407 - NYCT - In Service 207

3410/3411 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3414/3415 - NYCT - In Service 207

3416/3417 - NYCT - In Service 207

3419/3740 - NYCT - In Service 207

3424/3425 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3426/3427 - NYCT - In Service 207

3428/3429 - NYCT - In Service 207

3430/3431 - NYCT - In Service 207

3432/3433 - NYCT - In Service 207

3436/3437 - NYCT - In Service 207

3438/3439 - NYCT - In Service 207

3440/3441 - NYCT - In Service 207

3442/3443 - NYCT - In Service 207

3444/3777 - NYCT - In Service 207

3445/3468 - NYCT - In Service 207

3446/3447 - NYCT - In Service 207

3448/3449 - NYCT - In Service 207

3452/3453 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3454/3455 - NYCT - Emergency Service 207 (OOS when?)

3460/3461 - NYCT - In Service 207

3471/3658 - NYCT - In Service 207

3472/3473 - NYCT - In Service 207

3476/3477 - NYCT - In Service 207

3484/3485 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3488/3489 - NYCT - In Service 207

3494/3495 - NYCT - Emergency Service 207 (ex-Work Motor 38)

3496/3497 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3500/3501 - NYCT - In Service 207

3510/3511 - NYCT - Work Motor 207

3512/3513 - NYCT - In Service 207

3514/3515 - NYCT - In Service 207

3518/3519 - NYCT - In Service 207

3520/3891 - NYCT - In Service 207

3522/3523 - NYCT - In Service 207

3548/3593 - NYCT - In Service 207

3550/3551 - NYCT - In Service 207

3552/3553 - NYCT - Work Motor 207

3574/3575 - NYCT - In Service 207

3578/3579 - NYCT - In Service 207

3586/3587 - NYCT - In Service 207

3590/3591 - NYCT - In Service 207

3606/3607 - NYCT - In Service 207

3610/3611 - NYCT - In Service 207

3614/3615 - NYCT - In Service 207

3618/3619 - NYCT - In Service 207

3621/3644 - NYCT - In Service 207

3624/3625 - NYCT - In Service 207

3628/3669 - NYCT - In Service 207

3642/3643 - NYCT - Emergency Service 207 (ex-Work Motor 38)

3646/3647 - NYCT - In Service 207

3650/3767 - NYCT - In Service 207

3654/3655 - NYCT - In Service 207

3660/3661 - NYCT - In Service 207

3664/3665 - NYCT - In Service 207

3670/3671 - NYCT - In Service 207

3672/3673 - NYCT - In Service 207

3682/3683 - NYCT - In Service 207

3688/3689 - NYCT - In Service 207

3694/3695 - NYCT - Work Motor 38

3698/3699 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3706/3707 - NYCT - In Service 207

3708/3709 - NYCT - In Service 207

3714/3715 - NYCT - In Service 207

3716/3717 - NYCT - In Service 207

3718/3719 - NYCT - In Service 207

3726/3727 - NYCT - In Service 207

3728/3729 - NYCT - In Service 207

3730/3731 - NYCT - In Service 207

3732/3733 - NYCT - In Service 207

3736/3737 - NYCT - In Service 207

3738/3739 - NYCT - In Service 207

3770/3771 - NYCT - In Service 207

3772/3773 - NYCT - In Service 207

3774/3775 - NYCT - In Service 207

3778/3779 - NYCT - In Service 207

3780/3781 - NYCT - In Service 207

3782/3783 - NYCT - In Service 207

3786/3787 - NYCT - Re-Railing Training CIY (OOS when?)

3792/3793 - NYCT - In Service 207

3798/3799 - NYCT - In Service 207

3804/3805 - NYCT - In Service 207

3806/3807 - NYCT - In Service 207

3810/3811 - NYCT - In Service 207

3818/3819 - NYCT - In Service 207

3820/3821 - NYCT - In Service 207

3822/3823 - NYCT - In Service 207

3828/3829 - NYCT - In Service 207

3834/3835 - NYCT - In Service 207

3840/3841 - NYCT - In Service 207

3856/3857 - NYCT - In Service 207

3864/3865 - NYCT - In Service 207

3870/3871 - NYCT - In Service 207

3872/3873 - NYCT - In Service 207

3876/3877 - NYCT - In Service 207

3878/3879 - NYCT - OOS (when?)

3886/3887 - NYCT - In Service 207

3888/3889 - NYCT - In Service 207

3894/3895 - NYCT - In Service 207

3896/3897 - NYCT - In Service 207

3900/3901 - NYCT - OOS Week of 12/30/19 (which day?)

3912/3913 - NYCT - In Service 207

3924/3925 - NYCT - In Service 207

3928/3929 - NYCT - In Service 207

3932/3933 - NYCT - In Service 207

3938/3939 - NYCT - In Service 207

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11 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said:

Weren’t the GE cars some random oddballs that broke down a lot?

Basically yes. They were a pilot group of the first R32s sent out for GOH and kept a few more original components than the MK cars.

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Warning message: For those who are getting pics of the R42s, TA is getting cautious as one of the plates and rollsigns were stolen on one of the sets.

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14 minutes ago, Calvin said:

Caution message: For those who are getting pics of the R42s, TA is getting cautious as one of the plates and rollsigns were stolen on one of the cars.

Some of these railfans are a bit too much. Some of them just don’t know how to act and now I can see why some T/O‘s, bus drivers and other MTA employees feel the way they do about them. There is nothing wrong with appreciating something but don’t act nuts and go to the lengths of committing crimes and such over the fact that you really love a particular train fleet.

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28 minutes ago, Calvin said:

Caution message: For those who are getting pics of the R42s, TA is getting cautious as one of the plates and rollsigns were stolen on one of the cars.

They believe  Cody Winters is the guy that took em.

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50 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Some of these railfans are a bit too much. Some of them just don’t know how to act and now I can see why some T/O‘s, bus drivers and other MTA employees feel the way they do about them. There is nothing wrong with appreciating something but don’t act nuts and go to the lengths of committing crimes and such over the fact that you really love a particular train fleet.

They are vandals who happen to be interest in trains. These bad apples ruin things for everyone.

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4 hours ago, Amtrak706 said:

So of the 234 surviving Phase I R32s, that means we have 208 in active revenue service (including the 4 work motor cars that were reactivated yesterday), 6 in work motor service, and 20 out of service (the 16 from last week, 3878/79, and 3786/87). Is this right?

Nice list, but my understanding is the two work R-32 pairs (3494/95 and 3642/43) were part of a Movie Shoot, not passenger service.  Those 10 cars have been deprived of revenue service since 2010 and ONLY used on Work assignments.  The others are 3510/11, 3552/53, 3694/95.  They're a huge mess inside anyway like many work cars.  Don't expect anything like that to see anywhere soon.

Neither of these cars were used in passenger revenue service either (A) or (C) on January 8.

While on the topic, was anyone ever to find if 3370/71 actually still existed?

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4 hours ago, m2fwannabe said:

Nice list, but my understanding is the two work R-32 pairs (3494/95 and 3642/43) were part of a Movie Shoot, not passenger service.  Those 10 cars have been deprived of revenue service since 2010 and ONLY used on Work assignments.  The others are 3510/11, 3552/53, 3694/95.  They're a huge mess inside anyway like many work cars.  Don't expect anything like that to see anywhere soon.

Neither of these cars were used in passenger revenue service either (A) or (C) on January 8.

While on the topic, was anyone ever to find if 3370/71 actually still existed?

3370/71 went to scrap in 2013

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38 minutes ago, VIP said:

R160 9263-9267 from Coney Island to Jamaica as of 20:23

Five more to go?  That makes 55 altogether so far.

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What is the purpose of removing the builder plates? Its such a minor detail that I don't see a reason for them to take them off. 

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7 minutes ago, Q23 via 108 said:

What is the purpose of removing the builder plates? Its such a minor detail that I don't see a reason for them to take them off. 

Probably to prevent foamers from stealing them so they can keep them to sell in the surplus store.

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10 hours ago, Q23 via 108 said:

What is the purpose of removing the builder plates? Its such a minor detail that I don't see a reason for them to take them off. 

The MTA probably has plans to sell them. I believe the TA sold Redbird and rollsigns from retired R32 - 42 fleets in the past.

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Forgive me if I missed this, but have the R46s transferred from Jamaica (or CI) to Pitkin for (A) service been noted yet? Interesting seeing those sets running on the (A), interior rehab and all.

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On 1/9/2020 at 8:29 AM, R68OnBroadway said:

Weren’t the GE cars some random oddballs that broke down a lot?

 

On 1/9/2020 at 8:42 AM, Amtrak706 said:

Basically yes. They were a pilot group of the first R32s sent out for GOH and kept a few more original components than the MK cars.

Just jogged my memory of those things; yeah, they were definitely "non-standard".  One of three fleets that the agency was desperate to get rid of first.  The other two being CI-rebuild R42s (structural rot) and Phase II R32s (mechanical shitshows).

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