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29 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

Can they send a few R68 or R68A's on the (A) or (C)

I think it was sometime last year I spotted a R68A on (A)

They can. And that R68A on the (A) is a weekday roush hour tripper. That can happen next week as full service resumes. 

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The R32s have sitting idle for nearly two months, I don't think they could just dump them back in service like they have been running every day. I would imagine they would need inspection, some mechanical work done, etc. The 32s still might eventually return..

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2 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

The R32s have sitting idle for nearly two months, I don't think they could just dump them back in service like they have been running every day. I would imagine they would need inspection, some mechanical work done, etc. The 32s still might eventually return..

Thats why they haven't been put into service right away. The sets that are good for service are being prepped. In a few days time a few should pop up.

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At this point the (MTA) really needs to stop listening to Albany on retiring the R32's. The R179's have failed so many times to the point of TWO fleet-wide R179 out of service notices. These problems are especially serious from door problems to cars detaching from one another while in service.

The R32's and R42's must remain in service until the R211's get here. When the subway returns to a somewhat normal level of ridership, we need to keep reliable cars on stand by until the R211's get here. Cuomo does not understand that the R179's are problematic, he is not a car inspector.

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48 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

At this point the (MTA) really needs to stop listening to Albany on retiring the R32's. The R179's have failed so many times to the point of TWO fleet-wide R179 out of service notices. These problems are especially serious from door problems to cars detaching from one another while in service.

The R32's and R42's must remain in service until the R211's get here. When the subway returns to a somewhat normal level of ridership, we need to keep reliable cars on stand by until the R211's get here. Cuomo does not understand that the R179's are problematic, he is not a car inspector.

Except that the R32s and R42s are not reliable at all.  The R32s are especially bad in the summer.  It's better than nothing, but they are highly problematic.  Railfans who want them to stick around forever need to understand how old those cars are.  Some of the oldest rapid transit rolling stock in the world, if not the oldest.  They were supposed to be retired a decade ago.

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12 minutes ago, Collin said:

Except that the R32s and R42s are not reliable at all.  The R32s are especially bad in the summer.  It's better than nothing, but they are highly problematic.  Railfans who want them to stick around forever need to understand how old those cars are.  Some of the oldest rapid transit rolling stock in the world, if not the oldest.  They were supposed to be retired a decade ago.

No duh.

This has nothing to do with railfans "wanting them to stick around forever" and more to do with R179 problems, and reduced spare factor. Nobody cares about the R32s and R42s personally so where did you come from with railfans 'wanting them to stick around forever" for anyway?

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14 minutes ago, Collin said:

Except that the R32s and R42s are not reliable at all.  The R32s are especially bad in the summer.  It's better than nothing, but they are highly problematic.  Railfans who want them to stick around forever need to understand how old those cars are.  Some of the oldest rapid transit rolling stock in the world, if not the oldest.  They were supposed to be retired a decade ago.

They have their issues, but they do not detach in the middle of a route while in service.

Unfortunately if the R179's do not return for a service for a while, the R32's and R42's should go back to ENY in exchange for R160's.

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25 minutes ago, Collin said:

Except that the R32s and R42s are not reliable at all.  The R32s are especially bad in the summer.  It's better than nothing, but they are highly problematic.  Railfans who want them to stick around forever need to understand how old those cars are.  Some of the oldest rapid transit rolling stock in the world, if not the oldest.  They were supposed to be retired a decade ago.

 

this is the exact reason they stripped cars for parts to keep the others going, But this has noting to do with railfans. people have to get to work, We can't keep the city shutdown forever and its getting hot out meaning more people are gonna be outside. so more service would be needed. the R179 issues caused this problem, Be glad the R32's are still here because if they were trucked out already for scrap, your ass wouldn't be able to make it to work on time due to reduced service.

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16 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

this is the exact reason they stripped cars for parts to keep the others going, But this has noting to do with railfans. people have to get to work, We can't keep the city shutdown forever and its getting hot out meaning more people are gonna be outside. so more service would be needed. the R179 issues caused this problem, Be glad the R32's are still here because if they were trucked out already for scrap, your ass wouldn't be able to make it to work on time due to reduced service.

In short, it's either reduced service or reduced spares. It's a lose-lose situation either way. With reduced service, there is a greater potential for crowded trains (violating the current social distancing rule). With reduced spares, there is little time for trains to get repaired at yards. The R46 is especially a prime example of this.

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8 minutes ago, Collin said:

Except that the R32s and R42s are not reliable at all.  The R32s are especially bad in the summer.  It's better than nothing, but they are highly problematic.  Railfans who want them to stick around forever need to understand how old those cars are.  Some of the oldest rapid transit rolling stock in the world, if not the oldest.  They were supposed to be retired a decade ago.

honestly it's not a matter of making reliable cars available for service. the MTA just needs all the cars it can get in this scenario, regardless of whether it is an R32 or not. 

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So I was thinking about what's the best way to keep the R32's active until the R211's arrive and had an idea;

1. Send 6 10 car R32 sets to the Rockaway Park shuttle for beach service (since more service will mean more social distancing). The R46's from the Rockaway Park (S) go to the (C)increasing the spare factor by 1 full train and a half.

2. Send 4 8 car R32's to East New York for use on the (Z)

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26 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

So I was thinking about what's the best way to keep the R32's active until the R211's arrive and had an idea;

1. Send 6 10 car R32 sets to the Rockaway Park shuttle for beach service (since more service will mean more social distancing). The R46's from the Rockaway Park (S) go to the (C)increasing the spare factor by 1 full train and a half.

2. Send 4 8 car R32's to East New York for use on the (Z)

I said this on facebook, Put them on the damn Shuttle. Have the R46's dominate the (A)(C) until the 179's comeback its to be said 8 R32's to the (J) , I don't know how many for the (A) or (C)

 

23 minutes ago, Fan Railer said:

Anyone know exactly how many cars are being brought back from mothball? Is it all of them or just a portion?

probably about 180-200 cars. they stripped about roughly 20 cars.

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On 6/3/2020 at 10:59 AM, Lawrence St said:

It won't.

This does however leave the question if the R42's are going to come back out of retirement (for the 2nd time) to make service on the (J) and (Z) . Without the R179's the (J) can't run at full service, and going by the door issue a few months ago, the R179's won't return to service for a while until each set is inspected.

We don’t know if the R42s will be out of retirement to serve the (J) and (Z) lines while the R179s are pulled out is service, We don’t know if the R32s will serve then as well, They can just send some R143s from the (L) line and to serve the (J) And (Z) lines like before when the R179 was pulled out because of door problems

 

Who knows, we don’t know if the:

-R42 out of retirement again to serve it.

-R32s is gonna be running on the BMT Nassau Street, and Jamaica Lines once again

-Or some fleets from the (L) line will just serve the line.

 

 

Who knows, Maybe one of the Three Options I wrote will happen.

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1 minute ago, Jacob said:

We don’t know if the R42s will be out of retirement to serve the (J) and (Z) lines while the R179s are pulled out is service, We don’t know if the R32s will serve then as well, They can just send some R143s from the (L) line and to serve the (J) And (Z) lines like before when the R179 was pulled out because of door problems

 

Who knows, we don’t know if the:

-R42 out of retirement again to serve it.

-R32s is gonna be running on the BMT Nassau Street, and Jamaica Lines once again

-Or some fleets from the (L) line will just serve the line.

 

 

Who knows, Maybe one of the Three Options I wrote will happen.

You do know the last time they did that the (Z) was suspended and the (J) ran on a longer headway because the R42's weren't ready to return to service yet, right?

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1 minute ago, Jacob said:

We don’t know if the R42s will be out of retirement to serve the (J) and (Z) lines while the R179s are pulled out is service, We don’t know if the R32s will serve then as well, They can just send some R143s from the (L) line and to serve the (J) And (Z) lines like before when the R179 was pulled out because of door problems

Who knows, we don’t know if the:

-R42 out of retirement again to serve it.

-R32s is gonna be running on the BMT Nassau Street, and Jamaica Lines once again

-Or some fleets from the (L) line will just serve the line.

Who knows, Maybe one of the Three Options I wrote will happen.

From an observational standpoint, it's already confirmed the R32's are going back into service. The R42's return to service still remains to be determined.

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Planned assignments starting Monday:

(C) : R46 and 8 car R160
(A): R46 and 10 car R160
(J) : R143/160 and R32

There are some spares on the (F) available to be moved and some R160s are moving from the Culver yard to 207 St/Pitkin at this moment.

Remember the keyword is "planned" and it could change between now and Monday.

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