ttcsubwayfan Posted September 5, 2012 Share #676 Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) Quite frankly, I'm sick of ALL these trains. 32, 42, 68, 68a, 46, 143 & 160 all have there own problems. Indeed, which is why I don't see why some people (namely railfans) find it necessary to nitpick everything about them. R32? Garbage. R160? Garbage. At the end of the day, they're trains, and they get you where you need to go. Enjoy the ride, and stop nitpicking. There's nobody talking but railfans, whom the MTA wisely doesn't care about. How about regular line riders who complain relentlessly about the R32s? Quite frankly I can feel no sympathy for them; the cars show up, they run, they get you from point A to point B. If you want luxury and comfort then take a cab or a limo, or shut it and ride like everyone else. I will not deny that the R32s are plagued with problems in their old age however, that doesn't make them bad cars though. Edited September 5, 2012 by ttcsubwayfan 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted September 5, 2012 Share #677 Posted September 5, 2012 Indeed, which is why I don't see why some people (namely railfans) find it necessary to nitpick everything about them. R32? Garbage. R160? Garbage. At the end of the day, they're trains, and they get you where you need to go. Enjoy the ride, and stop nitpicking. How about regular line riders who complain relentlessly about the R32s? Quite frankly I can feel no sympathy for them; the cars show up, they run, they get you from point A to point B. If you want luxury and comfort then take a cab or a limo, or shut it and ride like everyone else. I will not deny that the R32s are plagued with problems in their old age however, that doesn't make them bad cars though. the riders don't even complain about em, but your right they do need to deal with it, the had nothing but old equipment, it had a taste of brand new R46's (used) and R110B's (used and due to 3 cars being destroyed in a fire) and now the uses R46's until whenever they return to normal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted September 5, 2012 Share #678 Posted September 5, 2012 Honestly, what set doesn't have dead motors? And as long as it's less than half the consist, it's still in service. I don't know about any of ya'll, but dead motors or not, if it's still running in revenue, it isn't broke down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 5, 2012 Share #679 Posted September 5, 2012 the riders don't even complain about em Pfft... yeah right. People will complain about everything and anything. However, it's not just the riders... it's any line without the NTT trains. I was reading the R188 thread and I saw a member ranting about how the R62As are old and that the should keep its R142As... Not every line can get NTT trains. Deal with it. Wait patiently for the R179 order to wipe out the R32s, or avoid the subway. Also, when are the R42s being retired? Some claim that it will be when the R179s arrive, others claim that it will be when the SMS on the R32s is finished... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 5, 2012 Share #680 Posted September 5, 2012 Well, I'm not sure even the 'refurbished' R32s will be enough to lower the amount of spare trains the needs. So I think it's more likely the R179s will have to arrive first before the R42s goes. The only way the R42s goes now is if they are just too costly or too much trouble to repair. As for people against older trains, as I've said, they don't have to ride them, they can either take the taxi, bus, boat or walk. At the end of the day, I'll take whatever gets me to point b (so long as the ac works in the summer and the heat in the winter, then I'm happy with whatever train I get). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted September 5, 2012 Share #681 Posted September 5, 2012 1) I frequent the Fulton line. I don't see anyone complaining about the cars themselves. Crowds, tardiness and A/c yeah. 2) us here, to be completely real, are not the representation of average riders. We are unique. They just want to go from point A to point B. 3) 6 riders aren't coming riders and 4)slightly off topic, r62s are only 20 yrs old. They got another 15 to 25 years left. And honestly, Who the Frak cares? they're the first all stainless steel cars on the IRT. "silver bullets" and I bet those who complain about the age of railcar are probably only older that the 142s themselves. Hardly a good source of railcar age and performance. I'm sorry, but if you lived during the time of graffiti, what we have now, whether old or new, is a HUGE improvement! "like" as you see fit. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 5, 2012 Share #682 Posted September 5, 2012 1) I frequent the Fulton line. I don't see anyone complaining about the cars themselves. Crowds, tardiness and A/c yeah. 2) us here, to be completely real, are not the representation of average riders. We are unique. They just want to go from point A to point B. 3) 6 riders aren't coming riders and 4)slightly off topic, r62s are only 20 yrs old. They got another 15 to 25 years left. And honestly, Who the Frak cares? they're the first all stainless steel cars on the IRT. "silver bullets" and I bet those who complain about the age of railcar are probably only older that the 142s themselves. Hardly a good source of railcar age and performance. I'm sorry, but if you lived during the time of graffiti, what we have now, whether old or new, is a HUGE improvement! "like" as you see fit. Best post of the day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted September 6, 2012 Share #683 Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Well, I'm not sure even the 'refurbished' R32s will be enough to lower the amount of spare trains the needs. So I think it's more likely the R179s will have to arrive first before the R42s goes. The only way the R42s goes now is if they are just too costly or too much trouble to repair. As for people against older trains, as I've said, they don't have to ride them, they can either take the taxi, bus, boat or walk. At the end of the day, I'll take whatever gets me to point b (so long as the ac works in the summer and the heat in the winter, then I'm happy with whatever train I get). the R42's are on the last legs, the MTA doesn't want to SMS them and their roofs are in horrid shape, so they might have to use the extra R32's for (J)/(Z) service, keyword might, its more of a hard choice, but the way things look for the R42's, they may be out the door by next year, they can't last 5 years in the shape they are in unless they get a rehab Edited September 6, 2012 by R32 3838 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted September 7, 2012 Share #684 Posted September 7, 2012 Money budgeted for the R42 fleet disappears long before the planned arrival of the R179. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted September 7, 2012 Share #685 Posted September 7, 2012 Looks like the R32 will be getting it's final rehab work before it's long overdue retirement by no later than 2016. http://mta.info/news...ries/?story=804 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted September 7, 2012 Share #686 Posted September 7, 2012 Yay, '4 more years!' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted September 7, 2012 Share #687 Posted September 7, 2012 I rode on a R32 on the on Tuesday and I got to say, them trains still run great. I'm glad they will be sticking around a little longer. I hope to work on them one day before they go to Transit Heaven lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted September 7, 2012 Share #688 Posted September 7, 2012 This is old news, they are already rehabbing them....... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttcsubwayfan Posted September 7, 2012 Share #689 Posted September 7, 2012 Money budgeted for the R42 fleet disappears long before the planned arrival of the R179. Would you happen to know when that is? I want to ride one of those things next time I'm in New York (unfortunately, 2 years from now ) after I didn't catch any on the last time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted September 7, 2012 Share #690 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) This is old news, they are already rehabbing them....... Yup. I appreciate that Shortline provided an official MTA article, but he's late to the party. Suggestion: can people please stop bashing particular subway cars, whether or not people think they deserve it? Sure, some cars are definitely better than others, but I (and plenty of others) have never run into trouble with any of them. I can't imagine how much time R32 3838 must spend riding trains to be able to make judgements about breakdowns. Let's just enjoy the trains, whichever types they are... Edited September 7, 2012 by TheSubwayStation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted September 7, 2012 Share #691 Posted September 7, 2012 This is old news, they are already rehabbing them....... Yes mark it old news. With that said, the news here is that the is actually doing the rehab work now unlike when story broke earlier this year. Plus i merged all of the R32's threads into easier sticky thread. This is done of course to prevent 5,000-plus chats on them lol. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted September 8, 2012 Share #692 Posted September 8, 2012 R32 SMS has been going on almost all year, so yes, they were doing it then too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted September 8, 2012 Share #693 Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Maybe September 22 (where Fall begins) is the last day of the R32/46 summer swap before the and revert back to 100% R46s and R32s respectively and the 30 out of the 48 R42s return to the . Edited September 8, 2012 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Depot Posted September 8, 2012 Share #694 Posted September 8, 2012 I think R32's should stay on the next summer so that they can run a a shorter less strenuous line. R32's would then possibly last a little longer. I know about that compressor stuff but just an idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lance Posted September 8, 2012 Share #695 Posted September 8, 2012 Hopefully, next year they won't need to do this swap thing. I mean, that is the point of this rehab, isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted September 8, 2012 Share #696 Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) Hopefully, next year they won't need to do this swap thing. I mean, that is the point of this rehab, isn't it? I think the swap will continue since the R32s are the oldest and their air compressors are aging as well. But they don't need to send those R42s to the ever again (if they shift the summer swap car assignments just right like I did). Edited September 8, 2012 by RollOverMyHead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted September 8, 2012 Share #697 Posted September 8, 2012 I think the swap will continue since the R32s are the oldest and their air compressors are aging as well. But they don't need to send those R42s to the ever again (if they shift the summer swap car assignments just right like I did). I think you're forgetting that the air conditioners are being replaced in the SMS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted September 8, 2012 Share #698 Posted September 8, 2012 Not the whole system- Just the part that is failing. Either way, I doubt the switch will be needed next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted September 8, 2012 Share #699 Posted September 8, 2012 I think you're forgetting that the air conditioners are being replaced in the SMS. Oh yeah, I did. Silly me. But now I'm sad, I miss the R32/46 summer swap on the ... The RFW on the R32 along the IND Rockaway Line and the express is just so fun! Oh well... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted September 8, 2012 Share #700 Posted September 8, 2012 I went to the city three times, and didn't get an RFW once.... *sigh* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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