drenyce311 Posted June 3, 2018 Share #1001 Posted June 3, 2018 On 6/1/2018 at 2:09 PM, handsom4life said: Same here passed the exam had the interview, patiently waiting for next step. Pleasantly surprised how many passed the written. Don’t be surprised. Out that whole group about 10-12 will pass the S&D test 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
republic Posted June 3, 2018 Share #1002 Posted June 3, 2018 8 hours ago, drenyce311 said: Don’t be surprised. Out that whole group about 10-12 will pass the S&D test Out of those 10-12, how many will typically make it through Phase 1? Phase 2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenyce311 Posted June 3, 2018 Share #1003 Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, republic said: Out of those 10-12, how many will typically make it through Phase 1? Phase 2? From my experience (if you read through the pages) 31 were invited to S&D 19 showed up for the test and only 9 passed. All 9 were my classmates. My phase 1 was a mixture of 3 different S&D’s. 2 passed the previews S&D before mines and 1 passed before that S&D. Usually 13 get called for phase 1 and only 10-12 spots depending what HR wants to do with that class. Phase 2 depends how determined you are. If your slacking you ain’t making the cut. They’ll be happy if they get 6-7 guys to graduate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev2112 Posted June 6, 2018 Share #1004 Posted June 6, 2018 Any body from the 6/1 open house called for S and D yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train123 Posted June 6, 2018 Share #1005 Posted June 6, 2018 @CarlosMQ what’s up? Have you heard anything back as of yet ? @MistaFISH how’s phase 2 going? Is it about the same amount of work as phase 1 ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
republic Posted June 6, 2018 Share #1006 Posted June 6, 2018 7 hours ago, kev2112 said: Any body from the 6/1 open house called for S and D yet? Not yet. This is nerve wracking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev2112 Posted June 7, 2018 Share #1007 Posted June 7, 2018 11 hours ago, republic said: Not yet. This is nerve wracking. Agreed. Hoping for a good outcome over here. Best of luck to everybody. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenyce311 Posted June 7, 2018 Share #1008 Posted June 7, 2018 7 hours ago, kev2112 said: Agreed. Hoping for a good outcome over here. Best of luck to everybody. No news is good news 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlosMQ Posted June 8, 2018 Share #1009 Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) On 6/6/2018 at 6:41 PM, Train123 said: @CarlosMQ what’s up? Have you heard anything back as of yet ? @MistaFISH how’s phase 2 going? Is it about the same amount of work as phase 1 ? Yea they called me Wednesday to schedule the pre medical, which you need to pass to move on to phase l. I just took it today and passed, I’m just waiting for HR to email me confirmation that I passed and confirmation on phase l, when HR called me to scheduled the pre medical they told me phase l starts June 27. I hope you got a call, good luck to everyone and for the ones that will be in my phase l class see you there. The time has come for us to study study and give it all we have. Edited June 8, 2018 by CarlosMQ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluto1899 Posted June 8, 2018 Share #1010 Posted June 8, 2018 On 6/6/2018 at 11:53 AM, kev2112 said: Any body from the 6/1 open house called for S and D yet? Be patient. It took them about a month to reach out after the January open house to send invites for the S&D overview, which wasn’t until the middle of March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flydog Posted June 10, 2018 Share #1011 Posted June 10, 2018 4 weeks of studying and I am pretty comfortable with the material. In my opinion the definitions is the harder part. A lot of them are long sentences, the vocabulary is difficult and many phrases are inconsistent. Remembering what is plural and the whole order of it requires a lot of repetition. Il be testing myself all week till Saturday. Good luck to everyone in this process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluto1899 Posted June 11, 2018 Share #1012 Posted June 11, 2018 21 hours ago, flydog said: 4 weeks of studying and I am pretty comfortable with the material. In my opinion the definitions is the harder part. A lot of them are long sentences, the vocabulary is difficult and many phrases are inconsistent. Remembering what is plural and the whole order of it requires a lot of repetition. Il be testing myself all week till Saturday. Good luck to everyone in this process. I agree. Personally, I think the method of testing for the definitions, the verbatim memorization of close to 100 multi sentence definitions and indications is ridiculous, and isn’t necessarily a true indication of how good someone will be at the job. They’re missing out on a lot of good people who got a word or two wrong here and there, or referred to a “locomotive” as an “engine”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIRR 154 Posted June 11, 2018 Share #1013 Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Bluto1899 said: I agree. Personally, I think the method of testing for the definitions, the verbatim memorization of close to 100 multi sentence definitions and indications is ridiculous, and isn’t necessarily a true indication of how good someone will be at the job. They’re missing out on a lot of good people who got a word or two wrong here and there, or referred to a “locomotive” as an “engine”. Nope.. it’s been that way for years . You either make the cut by putting time in too get it down or you don’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
republic Posted June 11, 2018 Share #1014 Posted June 11, 2018 So, the passing rate for phase 2 is approximately 60%. If someone makes it through phase 1, is it safe to say that they have the skills to also make it through phase 2? Trying to figure out why the failure rate is so high high for phase 2. I know that some candidates simply can't hack operating a locomotive, while others make find the life style unbearable (although I would hope they knew this going in). But is PC, special instructions, air brake so much harder than BoR that it blows phase 2 candidates out of the water? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluto1899 Posted June 11, 2018 Share #1015 Posted June 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, republic said: So, the passing rate for phase 2 is approximately 60%. If someone makes it through phase 1, is it safe to say that they have the skills to also make it through phase 2? Trying to figure out why the failure rate is so high high for phase 2. I know that some candidates simply can't hack operating a locomotive, while others make find the life style unbearable (although I would hope they knew this going in). But is PC, special instructions, air brake so much harder than BoR that it blows phase 2 candidates out of the water? I didn’t think the failure rate was so high for Phase 2. Probably has more to do with the people who can’t handle the lifestyle. Poor time management will get you kicked out in a hurry. I manage people in my current job, and it is amazing how many people are incapable of being on time for anything. I would imagine if somebody was constantly late, they’d be booted pretty quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenyce311 Posted June 11, 2018 Share #1016 Posted June 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Bluto1899 said: I agree. Personally, I think the method of testing for the definitions, the verbatim memorization of close to 100 multi sentence definitions and indications is ridiculous, and isn’t necessarily a true indication of how good someone will be at the job. They’re missing out on a lot of good people who got a word or two wrong here and there, or referred to a “locomotive” as an “engine”. I disagree with you here. If you fail the test just to get in, chances are your going to fail in the program and are not going to do well. Usually HR gets it right when vetting new employees. Being an Engineer we’re held to a high regard and pretty much have to be 100% on point everytime. By passing it shows them you put the time forward and effort to succeed. Locomotive and engs are two different things by the way. Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenyce311 Posted June 11, 2018 Share #1017 Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, republic said: So, the passing rate for phase 2 is approximately 60%. If someone makes it through phase 1, is it safe to say that they have the skills to also make it through phase 2? Trying to figure out why the failure rate is so high high for phase 2. I know that some candidates simply can't hack operating a locomotive, while others make find the life style unbearable (although I would hope they knew this going in). But is PC, special instructions, air brake so much harder than BoR that it blows phase 2 candidates out of the water? Yes it is. Just because you make to phase 2 doesn’t mean you can make it. You are right that some people can’t handle the schedule, some people lack mechanical skills, or once they get a hold of the material that has to be studied. Some people just can’t grasp the concepts. In the beginning it’s a lot of information. The first 5 months you have to learn how to operate various equipments, air brake for ALL equipments and trouble shooting, draw PC, BoR and special instructions in that short amount of time all while retaining the info. It’s not easy. Your getting quizzed every other week on something and get evaluated everyday throughout the program. These scores go to HR and if your test scores are lacking, they will bring you to the round table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenyce311 Posted June 11, 2018 Share #1018 Posted June 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bluto1899 said: I didn’t think the failure rate was so high for Phase 2. Probably has more to do with the people who can’t handle the lifestyle. Poor time management will get you kicked out in a hurry. I manage people in my current job, and it is amazing how many people are incapable of being on time for anything. I would imagine if somebody was constantly late, they’d be booted pretty quickly. Doesn’t necessarily have to be with attendance. They have a very strict policy on that. I made sure I was where I was supposed to be at all times. They will do attendance checks and if the engineer knows your coming and your not there , they will call your instructor. Some engineers don’t play that shit. Another thing I forgot to mention. Your dealing with different personalities also. Some might get on your nerves and some you will get along with. GOT TO DEAL WITH IT. Comes with the territory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flydog Posted June 12, 2018 Share #1019 Posted June 12, 2018 I don't have a problem with the process. This job has colossal responsibility and this is their way of recruiting intelligent and dedicated employees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drenyce311 Posted June 19, 2018 Share #1020 Posted June 19, 2018 On 6/11/2018 at 5:50 PM, Bluto1899 said: I didn’t think the failure rate was so high for Phase 2. Probably has more to do with the people who can’t handle the lifestyle. Poor time management will get you kicked out in a hurry. I manage people in my current job, and it is amazing how many people are incapable of being on time for anything. I would imagine if somebody was constantly late, they’d be booted pretty quickly. From what I hear now. 3 guys failed at the halfway point. Failed one of the tests and the retake. It’s not about the lifestyle or being on time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
republic Posted June 19, 2018 Share #1021 Posted June 19, 2018 5 hours ago, drenyce311 said: From what I hear now. 3 guys failed at the halfway point. Failed one of the tests and the retake. It’s not about the lifestyle or being on time. This is what scares the heck out of me. I'm going to give 100% to the end, but my fear is quitting my job only to fail out of phase 2 six months in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMF3 Posted June 20, 2018 Share #1022 Posted June 20, 2018 Has anyone that was at the 5/23 open house heard anything back about the S&D overview yet? I know the whole process takes a while but I'm starting to get worried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev2112 Posted June 20, 2018 Share #1023 Posted June 20, 2018 3 hours ago, SMF3 said: Has anyone that was at the 5/23 open house heard anything back about the S&D overview yet? I know the whole process takes a while but I'm starting to get worried. Same for 6/1 open house. Remaining hopeful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted June 20, 2018 Share #1024 Posted June 20, 2018 No, but they tell you when you're out of the pool. So if you haven't heard goodbye yet, you're still in the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
republic Posted June 20, 2018 Share #1025 Posted June 20, 2018 They had two open houses just a week apart? How many engineers do they need?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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