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Extending Bx5 into Co-op city to take pressure of Bx23/Q50


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The bx23/q50 are very spotty lines that have difficulty keeping up with the schedule, especially during pm rush. Why not extend two bx5 runs per hour along the old bx28 route along baychester and terminate them around the corner from the bx 29 or bx 38 to provide a shorter trip to the heart of co-op.

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The bx23/q50 are very spotty lines that have difficulty keeping up with the schedule, especially during pm rush. Why not extend two bx5 runs per hour along the old bx28 route along baychester and terminate them around the corner from the bx 29 or bx 38 to provide a shorter trip to the heart of co-op.

 

It would probably be cheaper to just extend the Bx28 and/or Bx30 south from Earhart Lane to Pelham Bay. 

 

Cheaper still would be to reroute the Q50 to follow the BxM7 path in Co-op City (i.e. serve Section 5 first and end at Dreiser Loop). The route would be 2 miles shorter (and thus more reliable) while still serving everybody.

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The bx23/q50 are very spotty lines that have difficulty keeping up with the schedule, especially during pm rush. Why not extend two bx5 runs per hour along the old bx28 route along baychester and terminate them around the corner from the bx 29 or bx 38 to provide a shorter trip to the heart of co-op.

Is it that as must as it's to allow direct access to the Mall and Shopping area from Soundview, Castle hill and even Hunts Point? Is the service 7 days? or just a weekend extension?

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The bx23/q50 are very spotty lines that have difficulty keeping up with the schedule, especially during pm rush. Why not extend two bx5 runs per hour along the old bx28 route along baychester and terminate them around the corner from the bx 29 or bx 38 to provide a shorter trip to the heart of co-op.

The Bx5 is already a messed-up line,so just leave it as it is. It already has some service to the shopping mall on Bruncker Blvd.
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The question is, where would it be split? Also, there would be a weekend extension to Bay Plaza

Great question. Is the Bx5 considered a long route? Compared to something like Bx1/2 Or even the 15 or 39.. the only place I could maybe see a spilt is Maybe the Bay Plz route originating from the Soundview area WhitePlains Road?

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Plus the Bx5 is really quick after White Plain Road. It basically flies along Bruckner Blvd to Pelham Bay.

 

Forsure. That's why i didn't feel like it's the longest line to begin with. So with that said why would they feel they need to spilt the line especially if the runs to Bay Plaza is just a weekend thing. isn't this abit of over kill for two days of service? Whats the stats for the route currently? Is ridership high? Delays etc?

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The bx23/q50 are very spotty lines that have difficulty keeping up with the schedule, especially during pm rush. Why not extend two bx5 runs per hour along the old bx28 route along baychester and terminate them around the corner from the bx 29 or bx 38 to provide a shorter trip to the heart of co-op.

Just reading your original post reading the idea to have the Bx5 run via the 28. Question for you is did you know the MTA is planing to extend Bx5 to Bay Plaza next year? It would seem the 5 is really meant to help the Bx12 and Bx29 as well as opening new markets up to the shopping area with Weekend Service. It's been a while since I've been to Co-Op at rush hour it's a big place what area do you feel is lacking service? Section 5 has two line with the 23 and 29 Sections 1,2 and 3 have the 23 and the Q50 and section 4 has the 12,23,29 and Q50. what's missing?

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Just reading your original post reading the idea to have the Bx5 run via the 28. Question for you is did you know the MTA is planing to extend Bx5 to Bay Plaza next year? It would seem the 5 is really meant to help the Bx12 and Bx29 as well as opening new markets up to the shopping area with Weekend Service. It's been a while since I've been to Co-Op at rush hour it's a big place what area do you feel is lacking service? Section 5 has two line with the 23 and 29 Sections 1,2 and 3 have the 23 and the Q50 and section 4 has the 12,23,29 and Q50. what's missing?

There's no bus that leaves Pelham Bay that shoots straight to the middle of co-op. The Bx29 only operates every 12-16 minutes and the Bx23 is a joke (5 trips an hour during rush hour), some of which never come. A Bx5 that follows the Bx23 and turns onto Baychester on the Bx28's old throughway would cut crowding down significantly. 

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Forsure. That's why i didn't feel like it's the longest line to begin with. So with that said why would they feel they need to spilt the line especially if the runs to Bay Plaza is just a weekend thing. isn't this abit of over kill for two days of service? Whats the stats for the route currently? Is ridership high? Delays etc?

The 5 ridership is high most of the day. It's more of a long distance support for the 6. Every bus that cross the 6 noth of 149th st also crosses the Bx5 at some point, so it gets the load from those buses for the in between poi's. Sending the five into co-op, especially since its trip only last 40 minutes at the worst, would free up space from the Bx23 and Q50. It would follow the Bx12, the turn with Bx23, making the right onto Baychester ave. Evenually termination just behind pathmark.

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