nuyorican Posted May 19, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 19, 2015 The commute on the Q44 is getting worse and worse leaving Jamaica is a disaster, from Merrick to Sutphin 25 minutes, from Sutphin and Hillside to Queens Blvd and Hillside 20 minutes. There should be a bus lane on hillside to Queens blvd. At Union Turnpike and Main St. 10 minutes between the light being to fast and cars turning in front of the bus thats a mess. The commute down Main St not bad till you hit Edler ave to Northern Blvd between double parked cars, traffic and people crossing the street however they want, that was 25 minutes. they heading into the bronx not bad just have to delete some stops on Union st because you have the Q20 A and B serving those stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted May 19, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 19, 2015 I made the mistake of boarding the Q44 in Jamaica, I've learned my lesson. Afterward I took the Q17 (sometimes Q27) to Flushing, then transfered. I realized that day that I would have been better off getting on the at 179th and catching the bus at Van Wyck Blvd Station. than to sit on the bus for like 30 mins getting to Main Street! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 19, 2015 Share #3 Posted May 19, 2015 It's not always 30 minutes going to Main Street or 25 to Sutphin(personally, that sounds over-exaggerated since I'm a daily Q44 rider).......even so, it's a combination of passenger loading and the traffic. SBS wouldn't improve upon that all that much especially since traffic in Jamaica is a hell hole in itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted May 19, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 19, 2015 I once took the Q44 from end to end, took 2 hrs to leave queens and another 45-50 from whitestone to west farms. If I could compare it to any other route, it would be the old M100, except the Q44 has ltd service. But still..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted May 19, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 19, 2015 The Q44 is not as bad as you make it sound. I take that route often and getting from Merrick to Suthphin can be around 12 minutes. Now if you said the time getting from getting between Elder Ave and Northern Blvd was about 20 minutes I can agree. It is horrible during the PM rush. The Q44 is not getting SBS anytime soon. It is too difficult putting it on that route due to the streets it travels on and the Whitestone bridge. They switch drivers in Flushing so drivers don't have to endure a 2 hour ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted May 19, 2015 Share #6 Posted May 19, 2015 Main St isn't a priority for SBS anyway. It's Woodhaven Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 19, 2015 Share #7 Posted May 19, 2015 The commute on the Q44 is getting worse and worse leaving Jamaica is a disaster, from Merrick to Sutphin 25 minutes, from Sutphin and Hillside to Queens Blvd and Hillside 20 minutes. There should be a bus lane on hillside to Queens blvd. At Union Turnpike and Main St. 10 minutes between the light being to fast and cars turning in front of the bus thats a mess. The commute down Main St not bad till you hit Edler ave to Northern Blvd between double parked cars, traffic and people crossing the street however they want, that was 25 minutes. they heading into the bronx not bad just have to delete some stops on Union st because you have the Q20 A and B serving those stops. Ok, but What time of the day is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted May 20, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 20, 2015 Main St isn't a priority for SBS anyway. It's Woodhaven Blvd.Not now, but maybe in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 20, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 20, 2015 It's not always 30 minutes going to Main Street or 25 to Sutphin(personally, that sounds over-exaggerated since I'm a daily Q44 rider).......even so, it's a combination of passenger loading and the traffic. SBS wouldn't improve upon that all that much especially since traffic in Jamaica is a hell hole in itself. In Jamaica, no, but prepayment at major stops would do a lot to reduce the dwell time. At this point the only way to speed up service where it matters would be some sort of dedicated path through Flushing, but that's about as likely as Staten Island becoming the 51st state. The Q44 is not as bad as you make it sound. I take that route often and getting from Merrick to Suthphin can be around 12 minutes. Now if you said the time getting from getting between Elder Ave and Northern Blvd was about 20 minutes I can agree. It is horrible during the PM rush. The Q44 is not getting SBS anytime soon. It is too difficult putting it on that route due to the streets it travels on and the Whitestone bridge. They switch drivers in Flushing so drivers don't have to endure a 2 hour ride. Main St isn't a priority for SBS anyway. It's Woodhaven Blvd. They're studying it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted May 20, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 20, 2015 Not the answer you wanted OP, but there are 2 open houses next week: http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-05-27-brt-flushingjamaica-openhouse-flushing.pdf http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-05-28-brt-flushingjamaica-openhouse-jamaica.pdf Also, the DOT already has a proposed list of SBS stops in Queens http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-01-22-brt-flushingjamaica-pw3-boards.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 20, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 20, 2015 In Jamaica, no, but prepayment at major stops would do a lot to reduce the dwell time. That I know. I was primarily talking about Jamaica and the hot mess the 44/20 goes through from Merrick to Queens Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 20, 2015 Share #12 Posted May 20, 2015 Not the answer you wanted OP, but there are 2 open houses next week: http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-05-27-brt-flushingjamaica-openhouse-flushing.pdf http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-05-28-brt-flushingjamaica-openhouse-jamaica.pdf Also, the DOT already has a proposed list of SBS stops in Queens http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-01-22-brt-flushingjamaica-pw3-boards.pdf So did they just give up on the Q25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted May 21, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 21, 2015 Not the answer you wanted OP, but there are 2 open houses next week: http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-05-27-brt-flushingjamaica-openhouse-flushing.pdf http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-05-28-brt-flushingjamaica-openhouse-jamaica.pdf Also, the DOT already has a proposed list of SBS stops in Queens http://www.nyc.gov/html/brt/downloads/pdf/2015-01-22-brt-flushingjamaica-pw3-boards.pdf The stops in Queens seem to be the same. No need to change them because the LTD stops currently on that route are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted May 21, 2015 Share #14 Posted May 21, 2015 I think the Sutphin and Jamaica stop was removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted May 21, 2015 Share #15 Posted May 21, 2015 Oh yeah now I realize it. That should stay a Q44 stop because many people also get on at that stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubaionBx12+SBS Posted May 21, 2015 Share #16 Posted May 21, 2015 Do the plans call for all of the Bronx stops to be made? If that's the case there's going to be a lot of machines needed to make things work. I might start checking out the Q44 soon so i'll be able to make an opinion on what's needed for that route shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted May 21, 2015 Share #17 Posted May 21, 2015 Do the plans call for all of the Bronx stops to be made? If that's the case there's going to be a lot of machines needed to make things work. I might start checking out the Q44 soon so i'll be able to make an opinion on what's needed for that route shortly.It doesn't look like Bronx stops are known at this time, but the open house next Week might reveal the bronx portion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuyorican Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted May 21, 2015 I think they should eliminate some stops or make adjustments, no need to stop at Kissena and then 38/39 ave just give its own stand at Roosevelt and Main st. In front of Burger King where the Q17& Q27 stand and move the Q17 &Q27 stand. The other question would be will it get its own bus lane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted May 21, 2015 Share #19 Posted May 21, 2015 Oh yeah now I realize it. That should stay a Q44 stop because many people also get on at that stop. While that is true, it's just a block difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted May 21, 2015 Share #20 Posted May 21, 2015 While that is true, it's just a block difference. Yeah true and that can possible help boost the Q20. I've only seen an artic on that route one time and that was back in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted May 22, 2015 Share #21 Posted May 22, 2015 Oh yeah now I realize it. That should stay a Q44 stop because many people also get on at that stop. How many is "many"? (If you go to the open house and talk about "many people," they'll tell you that "many" isn't a number.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted May 22, 2015 Share #22 Posted May 22, 2015 How many is "many"? (If you go to the open house and talk about "many people," they'll tell you that "many" isn't a number.) I couldn't tell an exact number but the bus operators of that route and the people who get on at that stop can tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 22, 2015 Share #23 Posted May 22, 2015 I think they should eliminate some stops or make adjustments, no need to stop at Kissena and then 38/39 ave just give its own stand at Roosevelt and Main st. In front of Burger King where the Q17& Q27 stand and move the Q17 &Q27 stand. The other question would be will it get its own bus lane? Moving the Q17 and 27 stands would be a terrible idea, since there aren't many places that could hold that many people that well (the lines for the 17 and 27 often get the length of the block). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted May 28, 2015 Share #24 Posted May 28, 2015 That make sense to have SBS Service only in Queens and Same normal stops in the Bronx. That make sense to have SBS Service only in Queens and Same normal stops in the Bronx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted May 29, 2015 Share #25 Posted May 29, 2015 Tentative bus lane locations announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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