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40 minutes ago, Novabus 5000 said:

Happy new years folks!

It is with a sad stomach that I report the following buses from the museum fleet are going to or already have been scrapped:  

-MTA NYC Bus 6000 (1999 Orion V)

-MTA NYC Bus 1000 (Ex-1004; 1996 New Flyer D60HF)

-Command Bus 4904 (1994 TMC RTS CNG)

 

-Nick

Seems out of the blue. What problems are plaguing the buses from being preserved like the Fishbowls and such?

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59 minutes ago, Novabus 5000 said:

 

Funding, as well as lack of desire. Basically if it's not preserved already, don't count on any new additions. 

So the transit museum is basically done with its bus fleet?

Not even a chance that 5249 will be added in a few years time? Or is it too far off to guess/be able to tell.

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Wow man, I'm really bummed about 4904 being scrapped, I never got to ride an CNG RTS:( only like 2 TAs ever bought CNG RTS I wouldn't be surprised if 4904 was the last CNG RTS in existence.

 

As for the D60, one of the PBL TMC RTSs should have been scrapped and have the D60 take its place.

 

I love the 6000 Orion's but... There's already an 93 Orion in the museum fleet so the 6000 not making it doesn't hurt that much.

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3 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

Wow man, I'm really bummed about 4904 being scrapped, I never got to ride an CNG RTS:( only like 2 TAs ever bought CNG RTS I wouldn't be surprised if 4904 was the last CNG RTS in existence.

 

As for the D60, one of the PBL TMC RTSs should have been scrapped and have the D60 take its place.

 

I love the 6000 Orion's but... There's already an 93 Orion in the museum fleet so the 6000 not making it doesn't hurt that much.

I'm sorry but I would keep the PBL RTSs over the D60s anyday.

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13 minutes ago, MHV9218 said:

1004 doesn't kill me that much just cause faking the 1000 status wasn't so hot anyway. 6000 is a bummer, but at least we have the 1993 Orion V for that fleet. But 4904? Who was the moron who approved that one?

1004 was an ORIGINAL 1996 D60HF that was only renumbered to 1000 because we had the former 52/53/54/5500s that were renumbered 1001-1009, 1011-1027. That bus was not a 1999 unit. 

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16 minutes ago, Novabus 5000 said:

1004 was an ORIGINAL 1996 D60HF that was only renumbered to 1000 because we had the former 52/53/54/5500s that were renumbered 1001-1009, 1011-1027. That bus was not a 1999 unit. 

Yeah, I know. That bus was kept around for driver training, which is when it was renumbered to 1000 from 1004. But the real 1000 was a 1996 unit along with 1001, and saving the 1997 1004 and faking it as a pilot bus for the museum fleet didn't make sense to me. The real 1000 and 1001 were the only 1996 buses in the order and had the older trannys to match. Guess it doesn't matter now though. 

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3 hours ago, MHV9218 said:

1004 doesn't kill me that much just cause faking the 1000 status wasn't so hot anyway. 6000 is a bummer, but at least we have the 1993 Orion V for that fleet. But 4904? Who was the moron who approved that one?

I think perseveration for CNG buses is just too much of a hassle. They have to re certify the tanks every 12 - 15 years etc, probably cost too much money considering the TM probably has limited funds. I always thought 4904 would stick around only because of its historical value as an RTS that uses CNG, TBH I never expected 4904 to run again at the very least I thought it would be a static display at Roadeo/Atlantic Antic type of events or maybe one day the TM would have a space to display its museum buses year round.

 

 

IIRC, that green double decker museum bus that stored at ENY doesn't run and had to be towed whenever it was bought out for events, same could have been done for 4904.

 

When Orion V CNG 317 (First CNG bus MTA ever had) and C40LF 801 (first successful LF bus model in the TA) didn't get saved that's when I knew saving CNG buses for the museum fleet + keeping them operational wasn't gonna work out to well...

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15 hours ago, MHV9218 said:

Yeah, I know. That bus was kept around for driver training, which is when it was renumbered to 1000 from 1004. But the real 1000 was a 1996 unit along with 1001, and saving the 1997 1004 and faking it as a pilot bus for the museum fleet didn't make sense to me. The real 1000 and 1001 were the only 1996 buses in the order and had the older trannys to match. Guess it doesn't matter now though. 

1000 was a 1997 unit which was delivered after 1069 was. The numbering for that series was originally supposed to be 1001-1070. When they changed the numbering to 1000-1069, 1000 was delivered (it was originally going to be numbered 1070). 

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On 1/1/2018 at 12:32 PM, Novabus 5000 said:

Happy new years folks!

It is with a sad stomach that I report the following buses from the museum fleet are going to or already have been scrapped:  

-MTA NYC Bus 6000 (1999 Orion V)

-MTA NYC Bus 1000 (Ex-1004; 1996 New Flyer D60HF)

-Command Bus 4904 (1994 TMC RTS CNG)

 

-Nick

I guess that these buses was not attractive to those who witnessed it, but 4904? They could've kept it around for a while and even a D60HF for at least one more year. 

 

Happy 2018 to everyone on here!!!!

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