T J Trainman Posted February 3, 2023 Share #4351 Posted February 3, 2023 3979 was a parts donor at LGA. It should be at ECH scrap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted February 3, 2023 Share #4352 Posted February 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Snorunts said: Are these units retired from passenger service? 3979 (LGA) 4077 (MV) 3884 (OF) 4600, 4602 (FB) I still have 3979 and 4077 listed as active, but have the other three as retired. They’re still listed on the Google Sites Roster, though. It looks like mine wasn’t used as reference. In this thread a few days ago, I did list 3979 being in the scrap lot. 4077 was retired in November, 3884 last ran two weeks ago but someone claimed it was retired. I don’t know about 4600, but 4602 ran on the B2 earlier today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomRider0101 Posted February 3, 2023 Share #4353 Posted February 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Snorunts said: Are these units retired from passenger service? 3979 (LGA) 4077 (MV) 3884 (OF) 4600, 4602 (FB) I still have 3979 and 4077 listed as active, but have the other three as retired. They’re still listed on the Google Sites Roster, though. All units are done except 4602. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted February 3, 2023 Share #4354 Posted February 3, 2023 4099 from FP is retired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Enthusiast Posted February 5, 2023 Share #4355 Posted February 5, 2023 #3889 to Eastchester Scrap from Mother Clara Hale Spotted at the lot earlier 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Enthusiast Posted February 5, 2023 Share #4356 Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Transit Enthusiast said: #3889 to Eastchester Scrap from Mother Clara Hale Spotted at the lot earlier Just 4 remain in Manhattan, all from Hale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTC Bus Roster Posted February 6, 2023 Share #4357 Posted February 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Transit Enthusiast said: Just 4 remain in Manhattan, all from Hale. Hale : 3887, 3936, 3947, 4123 Quill: 4126, 4252. Manhattanville: 3854, 4009, 4040, 4053, 4072, 4249, 4261, 4264, 4266, 4272, 4357, 4411, 4479, 4661-4662, 4664, 4668-4670, 4672-4676, 4681, 4683-4684, 4690-4694, 4699. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted February 6, 2023 Share #4358 Posted February 6, 2023 4123 is at LGA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted February 6, 2023 Share #4359 Posted February 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, UTC Bus Roster said: Hale : 3887, 3936, 3947, 4123 Quill: 4126, 4252. Manhattanville: 3854, 4009, 4040, 4053, 4072, 4249, 4261, 4264, 4266, 4272, 4357, 4411, 4479, 4661-4662, 4664, 4668-4670, 4672-4676, 4681, 4683-4684, 4690-4694, 4699. It wouldn't be 4 it's 3 units that left 3887,3936 & 3947. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted February 6, 2023 Share #4360 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, UTC Bus Roster said: Hale : 3887, 3936, 3947, 4123 Quill: 4126, 4252. Manhattanville: 3854, 4009, 4040, 4053, 4072, 4249, 4261, 4264, 4266, 4272, 4357, 4411, 4479, 4661-4662, 4664, 4668-4670, 4672-4676, 4681, 4683-4684, 4690-4694, 4699. 4411 is at Flatbush. 3854 has been retired a while ago. 4479 is at Stengel. 4250 is missing from your list. That unit is still active at MHV. Also, it doesn’t look like the post was meant for the scrap thread. Edited February 6, 2023 by Kingsbridgeviewer382 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 6, 2023 Share #4361 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Ultimategamer12c said: It wouldn't be 4 it's 3 units that left 3887,3936 & 3947. 3892 is the missing unit. Although, it'll be determined soon for retirement but not now as in offically retired. At the MCH depot, they still have 3892 along with the 3 mentioned. Edited February 6, 2023 by Calvin Point out: 3884, mentioned before has no farebox removed from service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Enthusiast Posted February 6, 2023 Share #4362 Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, Transit Enthusiast said: Just 4 remain in Manhattan, all from Hale. 4 Lead Acid units I was referring to. This does not include the 20 rejects JFK/Far Rockaway has. Edited February 6, 2023 by Transit Enthusiast Clarification 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transit Enthusiast Posted February 6, 2023 Share #4363 Posted February 6, 2023 #3887, #3892, #3936 & #3947 are all retired from Mother Clara Hale That's the end of the Lead Acid NG era in Manhattan (and thus in NYCTA/MaBSTOA) (2008-2023) Only the JFK/Far Rockaway rejects remain now 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TransitMan Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share #4364 Posted February 7, 2023 23 hours ago, T J Trainman said: 4123 is at LGA. ...and was on the Q104 this afternoon heading towards 11th St-34th Av. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grizzly Bear Posted February 7, 2023 Share #4365 Posted February 7, 2023 The following buses have been retired at LGA: 3581 3141 3144-3145. More to come soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted February 7, 2023 Share #4366 Posted February 7, 2023 6 hours ago, The Grizzly Bear said: The following buses have been retired at LGA: 3581 3141 3144-3145. More to come soon. I’m surprised LGA is holding onto those Orion VII OG’s for as long as they have. I recall for the past month or two they only had 4 of them left. They should be down to 3 Orion OG’s now. I always wonder when a depot has so few buses of a particular fleet like LGA had with the OG’s why not transfer them out to another depot in this case JFK since they still have about 90 OG’s in service and just transfer 4 NG’s to LGA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Valiant Posted February 7, 2023 Share #4367 Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I’m surprised LGA is holding onto those Orion VII OG’s for as long as they have. I recall for the past month or two they only had 4 of them left. They should be down to 3 Orion OG’s now. I always wonder when a depot has so few buses of a particular fleet like LGA had with the OG’s why not transfer them out to another depot in this case JFK since they still have about 90 OG’s in service and just transfer 4 NG’s to LGA. I’ve been wondering the same thing, currently with the four NG’s at East New York. They can easily transfer them to Fresh Pond or Flatbush and exchange them with XD40’s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimategamer12c Posted February 7, 2023 Share #4368 Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I’m surprised LGA is holding onto those Orion VII OG’s for as long as they have. I recall for the past month or two they only had 4 of them left. They should be down to 3 Orion OG’s now. I always wonder when a depot has so few buses of a particular fleet like LGA had with the OG’s why not transfer them out to another depot in this case JFK since they still have about 90 OG’s in service and just transfer 4 NG’s to LGA. If a Depot holds on to a bus for a while that would mean that they are spares just in case. The Depot might not need them but eventually they'll get something in return for it and or it would just retire out of the Depot without the bus having to be transferred out. Edited February 7, 2023 by Ultimategamer12c 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 7, 2023 Share #4369 Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, NewFlyer 230 said: I’m surprised LGA is holding onto those Orion VII OG’s for as long as they have. I recall for the past month or two they only had 4 of them left. They should be down to 3 Orion OG’s now. I always wonder when a depot has so few buses of a particular fleet like LGA had with the OG’s why not transfer them out to another depot in this case JFK since they still have about 90 OG’s in service and just transfer 4 NG’s to LGA. I think it may not be a difference since JFK's Old Gens (BP as well) are being retired as well in that phase. Usually, buses almost being retired arriving at a new depot doesn't last two days or a week in service. It's also to that point that they can remove the NYCT Next Gens in random occurrence from their pool due to heavy usage back in NYCT service leading to the point that it can't be used anymore. The 3 Old Gens at LGA can be retired but were on hold bc of another retirement plan, removing some NGs from service (Ex: 4039, 4540 and 4062) Edited February 7, 2023 by Calvin Old Gens are in retirement phase but, Next Gens can too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 8, 2023 Share #4370 Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) These are the recent units that are currently spotted at Eastchester scrap. Some can be mentioned but in my apologies to clarify from the recent spot on. 3781: new to the scrapyard from Baisley Park 4371: Zerega/KB to scrap New units mentioned to scrap are now in the lot: 3070, 3530, 3674, 3884, 3887, 3889, 3892, 3963, 3998, 4064, 4226, 4474 and 4663 4273: At Eastchester part where local and express buses are. However, used as a parts bus for their 31 Next Gens in local service. Edited February 8, 2023 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted February 9, 2023 Share #4371 Posted February 9, 2023 4272 at Manhattanville is now retired. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted February 10, 2023 Share #4372 Posted February 10, 2023 2214-2215 at Castleton has been retired. 2291-2294, 2296-2299 at Charleston had not been running for a long time. They are currently either going through maintenance, or are in long-term storage to even out mileage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted February 10, 2023 Share #4373 Posted February 10, 2023 2 hours ago, RSMG106 said: 2214-2215 at Castleton has been retired. 2291-2294, 2296-2299 at Charleston had not been running for a long time. They are currently either going through maintenance, or are in long-term storage to even out mileage. Or just nor needed for service at the present time. Reminder to all: a bus shouldn't be considered retired till it's seen in ECH scrap lot! There are too many false alarms of retired/scrapped buses here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSMG106 Posted February 10, 2023 Share #4374 Posted February 10, 2023 4157: JFK to Eastchester scrap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted February 10, 2023 Share #4375 Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Bill from Maspeth said: Reminder to all: a bus shouldn't be considered retired till it's seen in ECH scrap lot! There are too many false alarms of retired/scrapped buses here. At that point, I know what you mean. There are instances that buses are retired although they can pop at Eastchester at a later date or at the depot itself before being moved to the scrap. Not to encourage random posting, like recently LGA still has 4039, 4627, and now 3141, 3144 inside the depot marked as retired although, they have no farebox with not to use signage. Some have the back panel opened for parts like 4039 and 4615. Even 3674 was spotted at BP without the farebox two weeks ago but this week, it's at ECH scrap. It's just a tip or note now on being careful which units are retired or not and to the point that they can be in MTA Bus without GPS. Edited February 11, 2023 by Calvin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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