MHV9218 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #1501 Posted July 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, East New York said: Note some of RTS’ being retired are going to storage for reserve and Train. EDIT: Just checked. All will be retired by the end of 2019/January 2020. We are accelerating both Artic options. Something tells me the MTA should be careful and cover their bases with the scrapping of those buses that could work as no-farebox reserves for the L shuttle. People are gonna lose their minds once that shuttle starts, and we might see complaints that there aren't enough buses, etc. Anything of that vein is possible. If those artics are late, it's gonna be a mess, and it seems like a big gamble for the MTA to take, given the fact that new orders are often delayed for one reason or another. Those 1999s--best of them at least--could definitely last through 2019/2020, especially if they went through an overhaul program like the 1996s that are still on hand. The lifts killed the 1997s and the bulkheads killed a lot of the 1996s, but these 1998-1999 buses could be of use for a while. Gonna have to pry them out of Quill ops' hands, anyway. Maybe they should play it safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted July 24, 2018 Share #1502 Posted July 24, 2018 19 hours ago, MHV9218 said: Something tells me the MTA should be careful and cover their bases with the scrapping of those buses that could work as no-farebox reserves for the L shuttle. People are gonna lose their minds once that shuttle starts, and we might see complaints that there aren't enough buses, etc. Anything of that vein is possible. If those artics are late, it's gonna be a mess, and it seems like a big gamble for the MTA to take, given the fact that new orders are often delayed for one reason or another. Those 1999s--best of them at least--could definitely last through 2019/2020, especially if they went through an overhaul program like the 1996s that are still on hand. The lifts killed the 1997s and the bulkheads killed a lot of the 1996s, but these 1998-1999 buses could be of use for a while. Gonna have to pry them out of Quill ops' hands, anyway. Maybe they should play it safe. I’m still in awe about this “L Shuttle” that they are horsing around these older buses with. Back last year, I read that they was gonna get the Orions from TTC but where did this order went? They don’t really need “breakdown” buses or older buses that has little to no life left in them, then they scrap them to salvage. If the L Shuttle is gonna last a year, any articulated buses in the 5600s & 5700s (the last ones built) should be saved for that particular route. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 24, 2018 Share #1503 Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 3:16 PM, MHV9218 said: Something tells me the MTA should be careful and cover their bases with the scrapping of those buses that could work as no-farebox reserves for the L shuttle. People are gonna lose their minds once that shuttle starts, and we might see complaints that there aren't enough buses, etc. Anything of that vein is possible. If those artics are late, it's gonna be a mess, and it seems like a big gamble for the MTA to take, given the fact that new orders are often delayed for one reason or another. Those 1999s--best of them at least--could definitely last through 2019/2020, especially if they went through an overhaul program like the 1996s that are still on hand. The lifts killed the 1997s and the bulkheads killed a lot of the 1996s, but these 1998-1999 buses could be of use for a while. Gonna have to pry them out of Quill ops' hands, anyway. Maybe they should play it safe. I agree 100%. I believe they will keep a few on reserve no matter what's being said now. MTA would have loved to overhaul or rebuild them as they have before in the past, however Cuomo wants them all gone and replaced by low floors for accessibility reasons. Many of them are still being serviced regularly, and will definitely be in service through December 2019. Once 2020 and especially 2021 comes around there will be enough buses to retire them all. If you run the numbers against what we have on order now there will be a small surplus of buses. Then there will be 200 new buses to deploy elsewhere after the tunnels are fixed. 7 hours ago, FLX9304 said: I’m still in awe about this “L Shuttle” that they are horsing around these older buses with. Back last year, I read that they was gonna get the Orions from TTC but where did this order went? They don’t really need “breakdown” buses or older buses that has little to no life left in them, then they scrap them to salvage. If the L Shuttle is gonna last a year, any articulated buses in the 5600s & 5700s (the last ones built) should be saved for that particular route. Not sure exactly what you are talking about anymore. This fleet will have approximately 200 new buses for the shuttle and this discussion has changed several times. The order for 200 buses from TTC was a contingency because MTA did no think there would have enough new buses delivered by next summer to cover the shuttles. It was canceled due to protesting by environmental advocacy groups, and all of our new buses are on revised accelerated delivery schedules. Any other buses on the shuttle will be used when needed. Out of 200 new buses, I don't see an issue if there is a old bus that pops up here and there. I will be starting an L shuttle thread as soon as more details come in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted July 24, 2018 Share #1504 Posted July 24, 2018 Just wondering, are all the Orion V's out of service? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted July 24, 2018 Share #1505 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Deucey said: Just wondering, are all the Orion V's out of service? I think since the end of 2016. Edited July 24, 2018 by MysteriousBtrain Wrong year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 28, 2018 Share #1506 Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 5585, 5704 to scrap Edited July 28, 2018 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 1, 2018 Share #1507 Posted August 1, 2018 9215 to scrap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 5, 2018 Share #1508 Posted August 5, 2018 5564 to scrap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 7, 2018 Share #1509 Posted August 7, 2018 (edited) 7714 at ECH 5176 is at FB but has "Do not use" sign Edited August 7, 2018 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted August 8, 2018 Share #1510 Posted August 8, 2018 Has there been any SBS buses scrapped? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 8, 2018 Share #1511 Posted August 8, 2018 None. as the image is past its expiration date 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted August 8, 2018 Share #1512 Posted August 8, 2018 11 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Has there been any SBS buses scrapped? Just one: 1205 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 10, 2018 Share #1513 Posted August 10, 2018 7700, 7712, 7737, 7748, and 7777 retired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 12, 2018 Share #1514 Posted August 12, 2018 #100 is at Eastchester for scrap 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1515 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 9085, 9094, 9302, 9307, 9348 being held at LGA Edited August 13, 2018 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1516 Posted August 13, 2018 6430 not listed on roster. Any info on that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty24 Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1517 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: 6430 not listed on roster. Any info on that? It’s at the depot OOS. Says needs an engine on the windshield.. Edited August 13, 2018 by Ty24 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1518 Posted August 13, 2018 15 hours ago, Calvin said: 9085, 9094, 9302, 9307, 9348 being held at LGA Are all 1996 RTS done now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1519 Posted August 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: Are all 1996 RTS done now? Not yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1520 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Calvin said: Not yet. I don't see them on here http://ttmg.org/transitwiki/Insider's_Guide:_(New_York)_MTA_Bus_Operations_-_Roster_by_Depo NVM they updated it, it's still at LGA Edited August 13, 2018 by ABOGbrooklyn Update 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1521 Posted August 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Calvin said: Not yet. When are they going? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1522 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: When are they going? Probably till the end of this year. Wait and see. Edited August 13, 2018 by Calvin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1523 Posted August 13, 2018 6459 also needs a new engine it too is O/S. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1524 Posted August 13, 2018 5115 retired 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted August 13, 2018 Share #1525 Posted August 13, 2018 What is happening with the engines they had? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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