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Really?! On the R32? What a waste of dinero! But if they keep at least a few signs the brown (M) it would look awesome!

How is it a waste of money when said stickers would be highly inexpensive to make?

 

The brown M is dead. Dead and gone. Gone forever. Get used to it

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How is it a waste of money when said stickers would be highly inexpensive to make?

 

The brown M is dead. Dead and gone. Gone forever. Get used to it

Actually, since it's probably a good bet that the weekend Chambers service (running now due to the Essex switch being out) will probably lead to a demand to keep it (even without the current G.O.); what they could do, since they will have to shut the line down for structural work, is since the service from Continental will be cut off at 2Av, make that the (V) again, (since it's identical to that service), and then when the work is finished, just extend the (V) on weekedays, and the weekend Chambers service would be the brown M again. That way, you won;t have one like with two different destinations and trunk routes (with their respective colors).

This time, they likely won't oppose the extension of the (V), since the M wouldn't be completely replaced this time (which is what they opposed), but just run part time (and on its old alignment).

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Actually, since it's probably a good bet that the weekend Chambers service (running now due to the Essex switch being out) will probably lead to a demand to keep it (even without the current G.O.); what they could do, since they will have to shut the line down for structural work, is since the service from Continental will be cut off at 2Av, make that the (V) again, (since it's identical to that service), and then when the work is finished, just extend the (V) on weekedays, and the weekend Chambers service would be the brown M again. That way, you won;t have one like with two different destinations and trunk routes (with their respective colors).

This time, they likely won't oppose the extension of the (V), since the M wouldn't be completely replaced this time (which is what they opposed), but just run part time (and on its old alignment).

That doesn't make sense....

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Actually, since it's probably a good bet that the weekend Chambers service (running now due to the Essex switch being out) will probably lead to a demand to keep it (even without the current G.O.); what they could do, since they will have to shut the line down for structural work, is since the service from Continental will be cut off at 2Av, make that the (V) again, (since it's identical to that service), and then when the work is finished, just extend the (V) on weekedays, and the weekend Chambers service would be the brown M again. That way, you won;t have one like with two different destinations and trunk routes (with their respective colors).

This time, they likely won't oppose the extension of the (V), since the M wouldn't be completely replaced this time (which is what they opposed), but just run part time (and on its old alignment).

Is the MTA also planning to do some kind of heavy-duty construction in the Chrystie St connection itself that would require it to be shut down on weekdays? That kind of project is really the only way it would require the (M) train to be split back up into the separate Continental-2 Ave (the (V) ) and the Myrtle-Chambers (the old brown M) services. It would be no different from the way they split the (B) and (D) trains during the second time they closed the Manhattan Bridge north side tracks (by using (W) and (Q) for the Brooklyn services). But if all they're doing is taking Essex middle out of service to repair the switches, then there's no point in officially "splitting" the (M) back up into the old (V) and "brown M" services.

 

And on a slightly different note, what exactly is the MTA planning to do at Myrtle-Broadway? What kind of work is needed at that junction that I'm hearing about the need to run R32s on the (M)?

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The work at Myrtle-Bway I understand is rehabilitation of the 101 year old viaduct connecting the two lines. (Not the Chrystie connector. It would be unused on weekdays if the (M) is cut back due to the viaduct work).

 

I thought most people here agreed that a separate letter should be used on different branches with different terminals. (like why they wouldn't have the (Q) run to both 96th and Astoria at the same time, as someone suggested, and others want the south branches of the (A) redisignated).

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Might as well forget about the second school of thought (for now and the foreseeable future at least) since it has been well documented that Lefferts riders do not want to ride trains directly to/from there that run local in Brooklyn and absolutely will not stand for the loss of direct service from a train that runs express in Brooklyn.

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The work at Myrtle-Bway I understand is rehabilitation of the 101 year old viaduct connecting the two lines. (Not the Chrystie connector. It would be unused on weekdays if the (M) is cut back due to the viaduct work).

 

I thought most people here agreed that a separate letter should be used on different branches with different terminals. (like why they wouldn't have the (Q) run to both 96th and Astoria at the same time, as someone suggested, and others want the south branches of the (A) redisignated).

But in this case, they won't be able to run (M) service in Brooklyn at all (unless they can run a single-track shuttle from Metro to Central Ave), given that the viaduct is the M's only connection to the rest of the system. And with no turn back switches west of Myrtle, only the Queens Blvd/53rd St/6th Ave portion of the (M) will be able to run while the viaduct undergoes reconstruction. While that is the former (V) service, it should be called (M) because it's still one continuous service. Edited by T to Dyre Avenue
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Might as well forget about the second school of thought (for now and the foreseeable future at least) since it has been well documented that Lefferts riders do not want to ride trains directly to/from there that run local in Brooklyn and absolutely will not stand for the loss of direct service from a train that runs express in Brooklyn.

So let them walk.

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