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Tom Meadow

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Is this the website you were talking about? A driver told me about it. Looks like they're trying to sell off a whole bunch of stuff.

 

Old handicapped vehicles:

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36902

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36903

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36904

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36905

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36907

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36898

http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36900

 

The foreign buses:

F1200: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36901

F1256: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36906

F1205: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36896

F1262: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36893

 

NICE buses:

1533: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36892

1542: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36895

1543: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36897

1583: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36899

1585: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36908

1588: http://www.auctionsinternational.com/auction/5997/item/36894

 

Everything looks like junk that has been ripped to shreds. If someone from here buys the bus, I'll pitch in to help fix it up. Then we can start our own NICE bus with better service. When do the new buses NICE got start driving?

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Wow at those four Foothill Orions being driven cross county only to never run in service... I mean Viola couldn't figure out the buses weren't no good when they was out in Cali?

 

They were towed here but I see what you are saying.  I'm sure Veolia now known as Transdev knew what condition the Foothill buses were in before they even left the property because Veolia/Transdev runs Foothill as it runs NICE.  I'm sure it was a package deal or they knew they would have to gut a few to get parts to fix the others.  Sometimes 13-15 year old bus just break down and it is not worth fixing them.  I do think NICE planned on putting them in service sand they just broke down because if you notice the new NICE body number it would have had are written on the window.

 

I wish they would have at least taken the seats out of the Foothill buses and put them in a 16xx!

 

 

Everything looks like junk that has been ripped to shreds. If someone from here buys the bus, I'll pitch in to help fix it up. Then we can start our own NICE bus with better service. When do the new buses NICE got start driving?

 

Your father would have to be Donald trump to afford that!

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Sounds more like they wanted parts, because if they were that intent on actually putting them in revenue service, they could have negotiated for overhaul to be done in California before taking delivery.  Really doesn't make sense otherwise to buy cheap, add transit costs, then RFP for overhaul work or attempt to do it yourself.  If they were coming from MBTA in Boston, WMATA in DC or SEPTA in Philly, I could see doing it, but not for cross-country purchases.

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Sounds more like they wanted parts, because if they were that intent on actually putting them in revenue service, they could have negotiated for overhaul to be done in California before taking delivery.  Really doesn't make sense otherwise to buy cheap, add transit costs, then RFP for overhaul work or attempt to do it yourself.  If they were coming from MBTA in Boston, WMATA in DC or SEPTA in Philly, I could see doing it, but not for cross-country purchases.

 

These buses were not completely overhauled.  If the price is $x to repair it was probably not worth it to keep/made better sense to use as a parts bus.  

 

they could have negotiated for overhaul to be done in California before taking delivery.

 

That makes absolutely no sense!  Again, these buses weren't overhauled so the point is really mute.  If the buses were overhauled it would make more sense for it to be done at NICE rather than California.  NICE can do it at cost where they'd have to pay someone to do it at profit in CA.

 

then RFP for overhaul work or attempt to do it yourself.

 

If they went through the RFP process the buses would have probably rolled in not too long before the new buses came.  These buses were to help hold them over so what is the point?

 

 

It really makes no difference to me, we could play know it all all day but I know more than you, neither of us really know for sure, and I'd rather just play with my new 6s  right now to tell you the truth.  

 

I can tell you that these buses were towed.  When I first heard about this I thought it was very risky to drive buses this age  across the Country, I guess NICE felt the same way as these buses were towed.  I can tell you from industry experience it costs at least 3-4 times the price to tow a bus behind a truck or put a bus on a trailer.  I would not be surprised to hear that the cost to deliver one of these buses rivaled it's value.  You could strip the bus and send the parts you needed and send it LTL for a fraction of the price.  That and it looks like NICE wasn't really interested in these "parts" buses as they really didn't strip all of the reusable parts off of them.  The icing on the cake tome is that these buses (at least the ones I viewed) had the new NICE body number written on the windshield like every other one I've seen be repainted and go into NICE service.  

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^^^ Couldn't agree more.  All of what you said was what I was thinking, although maybe not properly phrased.

My thought about the overhaul being done in California was that if these were actually going to do some sort of revenue service, it'd be cheaper to negotiate that into the price being paid, and then have relatively little to do here before putting them on the road (whether in-house or contract work).

 

In any event, it was money not well spent.

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