Abba Posted October 16, 2015 Share #1 Posted October 16, 2015 Some issues today. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10153197886944607&id=232635164606 By the way if you were the dispatcher and trains COULD go on the local but couldn't stop there would you divert to express in order to stop there of just bypass the station? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bracamonte Posted October 16, 2015 Share #2 Posted October 16, 2015 Its been happening since this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted October 16, 2015 Share #3 Posted October 16, 2015 I don't know why that station was built on such a tight curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted October 17, 2015 Share #4 Posted October 17, 2015 I don't know why that station was built on such a tight curve. The original station wasn't on the curve. When they extended the station, they had no choice but to extend it on the curves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted October 17, 2015 Share #5 Posted October 17, 2015 The original station wasn't on the curve. When they extended the station, they had no choice but to extend it on the curves Right. This was part of the original subway, and when originally built trains were only five cars. You also had local platforms at 14th Street (and also Brooklyn Bridge and on the west side of the original line, 96th Street) separate from the main platforms. If people in the beginning had the foresight to see what would come just in the 20 years or so from when the original subway was built, they likely would have built the line a lot differently, and most likely with 10 cars. They also likely for instance would have done it with Times Square and even possibly 50th Street and Columbus Circle on what is the built as express stations (the original line went from what is today's Shuttle platform at Grand Central to 72nd and Broadway on the express without stopping). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 17, 2015 Share #6 Posted October 17, 2015 The subway was built for the needs of the day, not what may have been decades down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted October 18, 2015 Share #7 Posted October 18, 2015 That's true, however, I was simply pointing out how lack of foresight had them playing major catch-up later. At least when Times Square (or 42nd Street) station was built on all subsequent lines, such were built as express and not local stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted October 18, 2015 Share #8 Posted October 18, 2015 The original station wasn't on the curve. When they extended the station, they had no choice but to extend it on the curves I know that, but I wish that they didn't extend it along the curve. I am guessing that was due to private property issues. But I honestly think the gap fillers at 14th St is the reason why the downtown suffers from delays. Especially during rush hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 18, 2015 Share #9 Posted October 18, 2015 I know that, but I wish that they didn't extend it along the curve. I am guessing that was due to private property issues. But I honestly think the gap fillers at 14th St is the reason why the downtown suffers from delays. Especially during rush hours. Oh please. Stop exaggerating. I've been using that stinking Union Sq. station for years. Used to work in that area too by 18th and 5th so I'm quite familiar with it. The gap fillers take a bit but usually not that long to cause any serious delays. I do think that they should come up with a simplified solution though and re-do that station entirely and get rid of those filthy fans that blow out God knows what since it's pretty obvious they haven't been cleaned in ages. I would probably close down some of the entrances there too, especially the ones where the bums congregate. The worse one is the one by the Food Emporioum. Smells like a mix of bleach and @ss. Absolutely disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 19, 2015 Share #10 Posted October 19, 2015 Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 19, 2015 Share #11 Posted October 19, 2015 Yawn. Since you yawn, what would you do about the gap fillers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B46 via Utica Posted October 19, 2015 Share #12 Posted October 19, 2015 Just made a new account so yeah I'm going to give my opinion they should do something about the gap fillers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted October 19, 2015 Share #13 Posted October 19, 2015 Oh please. Stop exaggerating. I've been using that stinking Union Sq. station for years. Used to work in that area too by 18th and 5th so I'm quite familiar with it. The gap fillers take a bit but usually not that long to cause any serious delays. I do think that they should come up with a simplified solution though and re-do that station entirely and get rid of those filthy fans that blow out God knows what since it's pretty obvious they haven't been cleaned in ages. I would probably close down some of the entrances there too, especially the ones where the bums congregate. The worse one is the one by the Food Emporioum. Smells like a mix of bleach and @ss. Absolutely disgusting. I'm speaking from experience whenever I use the or . You may not notice it, but if your coming from UES or The Bronx on the or even the you will notice how slow it is going downtown during rush hours. It basically crawls from 59th to 14th. I blame the moving platforms, it takes a while to set it up. Aside from the crowds and the curves, the gap fillers slows down the Lex line in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abba Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted October 20, 2015 It depends how often the trains run but I don't think it delays it much.I took at tonight from Grand Central (Packed wall to wall) and the next train had already left 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 20, 2015 Share #15 Posted October 20, 2015 I'm speaking from experience whenever I use the or . You may not notice it, but if your coming from UES or The Bronx on the or even the you will notice how slow it is going downtown during rush hours. It basically crawls from 59th to 14th. I blame the moving platforms, it takes a while to set it up. Aside from the crowds and the curves, the gap fillers slows down the Lex line in my opinion. During the rush or even before the rush, it's less of an issue. It depends how often the trains run but I don't think it delays it much.I took at tonight from Grand Central (Packed wall to wall) and the next train had already left 14th. Off-peak it does seem as if trains are held a little longer, and given how the can crawl off-peak, the perception could be that it takes forever given how slow the rest of the trip is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewFlyer 230 Posted October 20, 2015 Share #16 Posted October 20, 2015 The Lexington Ave line is always crawling. I was on my way to school it was around 10:50 and I got on a and the announcement in the station said the next Local to Pelham Park would arrive in 17 minutes. Like is that how the MTA runs things now because on a normal day it would arrive in at least 6 minutes. Buses are no better now, so I guess this a problem the MTA has with both its trains and buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 20, 2015 Share #17 Posted October 20, 2015 Does it really matter? What's in the past is in the past. Service is good, no need to make a fuss about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 20, 2015 Share #18 Posted October 20, 2015 Does it really matter? What's in the past is in the past. Service Service is good, no need to make a fuss about itI have the Brooklyn Bridge which I would like to sell to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 20, 2015 Share #19 Posted October 20, 2015 Does it really matter? What's in the past is in the past. Service is good, no need to make a fuss about it. lol... Where did you get that idea from?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted October 20, 2015 Share #20 Posted October 20, 2015 lol... Where did you get that idea from?? Yea thats comical even for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Posted October 20, 2015 Share #21 Posted October 20, 2015 I meant as in service status. The problem has been fixed and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 20, 2015 Share #22 Posted October 20, 2015 I meant as in service status. The problem has been fixed and all. But that has nothing to do with how it affects service overall, which is what is being discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollOver Posted October 20, 2015 Share #23 Posted October 20, 2015 BronxBombers (if you're still reading this thread), there's more than just the gap fillers that delay service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BronxBombers Posted October 20, 2015 Share #24 Posted October 20, 2015 During the rush or even before the rush, it's less of an issue. For me it seems to be an issue during the rush. It crawls until 14th St and than after 14th it runs normally. BronxBombers (if you're still reading this thread), there's more than just the gap fillers that delay service. I know that there is more than just the gap fillers, but I think that the gap fillers also contributes to the delays. Aside from ridership and the curves south of 42nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfer2Nowhere Posted October 21, 2015 Share #25 Posted October 21, 2015 When this happens, I just pick up and walk across Central Park to the . I have no regrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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