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I'm going to meeting on Thursday both meeting because I have escort my blind vegan friend Jana and Able-Ride friend back to Pt. Washington.

 

n1: Restore PM Rush Hour service either direction.

n2/8: Eliminate n2 bus and have n8 operate as clockwise loop with every 90 minutes headways during off-peak. All service will begin at Meecham Av/Hempstead Turnpike because nobody rides bus north of Hempstead Turnpike.

n4/4X: Unchange

n6/6X: Unchange- Have map of n6X route to/from NCC indicate Oak St, so new drivers wouldn't get take wrong routing.

n14: Eliminate.

n15: Unchange

n16: Unchange

n17: Eliminate.

n19: Terminate/Originate at Sunrise Mall. Service replaced by n71 and Suffolk County Transit S20.

n20: Add 3 Sunday evening trip from Hicksville at 7:27pm, 8:27pm and 9:30pm because 6:27pm doesn't make any sense. Sunday 7:55pm and 8:55pm trip should be expanded with skipping NYIT Loop and SUNY Old Westbury.

n21: Have off-peak service terminate at Greenvale-Glen Cove Rd with n20 Hicksville for better connection to/from n27 bus.

n22: Unchange

n22A: Unchange

n22X: Have both direction during rush hour.

n23/27: Have every half-hour service on Weekend.

n24: Unchange

n25: Have one more weekend evening trip both direction. Some select n25 route trip serve n26 route.

n26: Eliminate because this parells n25 and n22 bus.

n31/32: Unchange

n33: 24-hour temporality since Long Beach Medical Center is not part-time and nearest full time hospital is Far Rockaway.

n35: Unchange.

n36: Eliminate Saturday.

n40/41: Unchange

n43: Unchange

n45: Unchange

n46: Unchange.

n47: Eliminate

n50: Unchange

n51: Unchange

n54/55: Unchange

n57/58: Unchange

n62: Eliminate

n70: Unchange

n71: All Sunrise Mall trip will expand via n19 route to Babylon Station.

n72: Unchange.

n73: Unchange.

n74: Eliminate.

n80: Eliminate.

n81: Unchange- Have Briafcliff College pay NICE Bus for n81 bus.

n88: Restore Concert Service. Have Jones Beach pay NICE Bus for n88 Theater Service.

N33 has nurses going to the grandell and the nursing home across a street.N33 is literally stops 2 blocks down from those locations And runs every hour.that bus is needed especially in the summer months when there is no parking on Broadway.
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Like. I said extending the s40 can reliev . The n19...i also forgot to memtion that the penultimate s40 leaving patchogue at 830pm will arrive at 9:55pm and can make three connection . Fairly easy . The 958p n71...the 1000p n19 and the 10:08p n55 (all the last units)...two of these routes go to Hempstea . As one mentione . Above ...the n71 via Hempstead tpke and the n55 via Jerusalem ave

 

As for inequality with sct scheduling. ...were talking about the s40...this route always arrives ontime never late (not like the s58 or the s92 that are unreliable)

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  • n1 Every other weekday trip via Dutch Broadway/Rockaway Avenue. No service beyond Valley Stream LIRR.

The majority of stops made are along Central Ave, I'm not sure how that would work.

 

On the N2/8,,,the bus runs to Sewanhaka High School because there is no other suitable place to turn around.

I was about to say that. What was the issue when they had it going along Hempstead Turnpike to Franklin Ave?

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Like. I said extending the s40 can reliev . The n19...i also forgot to memtion that the penultimate s40 leaving patchogue at 830pm will arrive at 9:55pm and can make three connection . Fairly easy . The 958p n71...the 1000p n19 and the 10:08p n55 (all the last units)...two of these routes go to Hempstea . As one mentione . Above ...the n71 via Hempstead tpke and the n55 via Jerusalem ave

 

As for inequality with sct scheduling. ...were talking about the s40...this route always arrives ontime never late (not like the s58 or the s92 that are unreliable)

 

I have to wonder why there isn't a serious move to combine the S20 and S40. This could only help the S40.

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I'm surprised the N14 lasted aslong as it did.  Apparently, the area around the garage/RVC station (which is only 3 blocks away) used to use that route heavily during the rush in decades past.  Today, though, why would they, when most modern cars have heated seats and mobile device connections and it's just a 5 minute drive?

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The n81 has been added to the list.

 

It's worth noting that the original proposal (in September to the TAC) consisted of the following:

-n2/8 rush hours only

-n14 eliminate

-n17 eliminate

-n46 end at Newbridge Road

-n50 eliminate

-n51 eliminate

-n62 eliminate

-n80/81 eliminate

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The n81 has been added to the list.

 

It's worth noting that the original proposal (in September to the TAC) consisted of the following:

-n2/8 rush hours only

-n14 eliminate

-n17 eliminate

-n46 end at Newbridge Road

-n50 eliminate

-n51 eliminate

-n62 eliminate

-n80/81 eliminate

 

Are these proposals final because now the website says that the n2/8 are going to be eliminated as well.

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  • 1 month later...

The n20/n21 restructuring is the thing that is really just surprising.  I probably would have instituted the following patterns:

 

N20 - Local stops between Great Neck and Flushing, daily running every 10 - 20 minutes.

N21 - Local service between Great Neck and Glen Cove, daily, running hourly.

N28 Limited - Limited stops from Flushing to Hicksville, stopping at Glen Neck, running daily until 9PM.  Last few buses run local.  During days, no local service to Hicksville.

N29 Limited - Limited stops from Flushing to Glen Cove, rush hours only.

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The n20/n21 restructuring is the thing that is really just surprising.  I probably would have instituted the following patterns:

 

N20 - Local stops between Great Neck and Flushing, daily running every 10 - 20 minutes.

N21 - Local service between Great Neck and Glen Cove, daily, running hourly.

N28 Limited - Limited stops from Flushing to Hicksville, stopping at Glen Neck, running daily until 9PM.  Last few buses run local.  During days, no local service to Hicksville.

N29 Limited - Limited stops from Flushing to Glen Cove, rush hours only.

 

I would keep the structure as NICE has revised it, with a slight change in numbers...

  • N20G becomes N10 or N11:  Flushing to Great Neck 
  • N20H becomes N20:  Great Neck to Hicksville
  • N21 (number unchanged):  Great Neck to Glen Cove
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I would keep the structure as NICE has revised it, with a slight change in numbers...

  • N20G becomes N10 or N11:  Flushing to Great Neck 
  • N20H becomes N20:  Great Neck to Hicksville
  • N21 (number unchanged):  Great Neck to Glen Cove

 

Explain with any experience/statistics/proof/etc on why that's a better move or makes any difference than what NICE is doing...

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EXTEND THE S40...SEMILAST BUS LEAVES PATCHOGUE 8:30PM AND REACHES SUNRISE MALL OR AMITYVILLE 9:45PM THEN HAVE IT HEAD TO BABYLON RR AND FROM THERE DEADHEADS

 

9:30PM LAST S40 LEAVES PATCHOGUE ONLY ARRIVES BABYLON AND THEN DEADHEADS

 

SO IN CONCLUSION THE SEMILAST S40 WOULD MAKE FULL ROUTE IF DEPARTING SUNRISE MALL AT 9:PM (THE THIRD TO LAST S40 WOULD ARRIVE SUNRISE AT 8:50PM AFTER DEPARTING BABYLON AT 8:25PM AND ARRIVING AMITYVILLE AT 8:45PM..

 

S40 WOULD BE A 1H20 MINUTE BUS RIDE LIKE THE S66

 

The main Point is that a SCT bus makes the connections to the last n72 bus. ;)

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Explain with any experience/statistics/proof/etc on why that's a better move or makes any difference than what NICE is doing...

 

As you already know from reading my idea, it happens to be exactly what NICE is doing, with the single exception of changing the numbers to reduce passenger confusion.

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As you already know from reading my idea, it happens to be exactly what NICE is doing, with the single exception of changing the numbers to reduce passenger confusion.

Not so sure that will help. People coming out of the subway looking for an N20 or N21 could at least see a N20G and relate them. But to come out and only see an N10 or N11 would add more confusion.

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Not so sure that will help. People coming out of the subway looking for an N20 or N21 could at least see a N20G and relate them. But to come out and only see an N10 or N11 would add more confusion.

IDK why people can't at least take time to adjust themselves beforehand. I mean, if they were to add information about a route name change before the change, and perhaps have it in different languages, why can't they comprehend that. 

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