DS4Ever Posted January 15, 2016 Share #76 Posted January 15, 2016 Thank you very much now i got all listed for the farewell ride hope for some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 17, 2016 Share #77 Posted January 17, 2016 Thank you very much now i got all listed for the farewell ride hope for some pics. Did you make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 17, 2016 Share #78 Posted January 17, 2016 Thank you very much now i got all listed for the farewell ride hope for some pics. I could sent you pictures of exinct buses like n14, n19 Babylon, n73/74, n50, n80/81 buses. You could use it. https://www.facebook.com/NoNukeFamousNYLoverTransit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Orion Bus Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share #79 Posted January 17, 2016 Look at this: Does anyone else think it's bulls**t that the cost per passenger for the n6 or the n40/41 is 6 cents when under the MTA, the cost per passenger was barely profitable for the n40/41 and it's no question that overall ridership in the system is going down? If this isn't suspicious, I don't know what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted January 17, 2016 Share #80 Posted January 17, 2016 Does anyone else think it's bulls**t that the cost per passenger for the n6 or the n40/41 is 6 cents when under the MTA, the cost per passenger was barely profitable for the n40/41 and it's no question that overall ridership in the system is going down? If this isn't suspicious, I don't know what it is... 6 cents is wrong. The n6 number claimed by Setzer at the meeting is 29 cents. Service has dropped along with ridership, NICE is cutting overhead to the point of extreme, and the fares have gone up. LIB claimed a subsidy per passenger on the n6 of 16 cents, so it's actually a net decrease in efficiency. As to the $5.50 - the claimed number in the meeting was $5.52 for the n14. The MTA claimed $8.32. On the n81, MTA claimed $7, and $6.33 for the n80. Given that Veolia's claimed hourly operating cost is lower than the MTA's, these numbers aren't too implausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordsaitamaboss Posted January 21, 2016 Share #81 Posted January 21, 2016 6 cents is wrong. The n6 number claimed by Setzer at the meeting is 29 cents. Service has dropped along with ridership, NICE is cutting overhead to the point of extreme, and the fares have gone up. LIB claimed a subsidy per passenger on the n6 of 16 cents, so it's actually a net decrease in efficiency. As to the $5.50 - the claimed number in the meeting was $5.52 for the n14. The MTA claimed $8.32. On the n81, MTA claimed $7, and $6.33 for the n80. Given that Veolia's claimed hourly operating cost is lower than the MTA's, these numbers aren't too implausible. Amazing actually if NICE had funding it would shit all over the MTA but they messed with heavy routes and stood still in the east now they just gave up without even trying if parts of N80/81 were part of other routes they may have done better. N73/74 were doomed as they fed into almost no major points without requiring 2 transfers in areas with people having high to mid end cars they will not tolerate such inept service and drive Those routes completely ignored the travel patterns of residents in those areas and paid the ultimate price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS4Ever Posted January 22, 2016 Share #82 Posted January 22, 2016 The n73 was a históric busroute for MBSA (1973-2016)...that cornflower loop in Levittown made it a sole possessor But what can we do all to just accustomed. In those times the Levittown residents relied on public transportation but not 95% have a motor vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordsaitamaboss Posted January 22, 2016 Share #83 Posted January 22, 2016 The n73 was a históric busroute for MBSA (1973-2016)...that cornflower loop in Levittown made it a sole possessor But what can we do all to just accustomed. In those times the Levittown residents relied on public transportation but not 95% have a motor vehicle One problem if you don't adapt to the times you die and that is what happened to the N73. The N73's routing before elimination is obsolete and no longer is useful to the residents and never had any major point's of interest all it served was a bus corridor and 2 train stations and a whole lot of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted January 22, 2016 Share #84 Posted January 22, 2016 One problem if you don't adapt to the times you die and that is what happened to the N73. The N73's routing before elimination is obsolete and no longer is useful to the residents and never had any major point's of interest all it served was a bus corridor and 2 train stations and a whole lot of nothing. That was the deal with almost all the routes NICE recently eliminated. Having buses, especially in the suburbs serve solely residential areas is never a good idea. Obviously, the planners back then didn't plan that this would happen, but the demographics have changed significantly. It's all about serving both residential sections, but also urban centers, and major thoroughfares (in addition to commercial sections of a neighborhood). The way the n73 serves these areas makes it easy for a lot of intra-community riders to use it, but with longer distanced trips occurring being rather rare (since there's no need to go to the other leg of the trip). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordsaitamaboss Posted January 22, 2016 Share #85 Posted January 22, 2016 That was the deal with almost all the routes NICE recently eliminated. Having buses, especially in the suburbs serve solely residential areas is never a good idea. Obviously, the planners back then didn't plan that this would happen, but the demographics have changed significantly. It's all about serving both residential sections, but also urban centers, and major thoroughfares (in addition to commercial sections of a neighborhood). The way the n73 serves these areas makes it easy for a lot of intra-community riders to use it, but with longer distanced trips occurring being rather rare (since there's no need to go to the other leg of the trip). You basically summed up the reason why those routes had very low ridership to begin with and had to get dropped. To be honest they should have been broken up and rerouted N73 south of hempstead tpk should have went to roosevelt field. The other would have done better if it went directly to the colleges. You basically summed it up best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTA Orion Bus Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share #86 Posted January 22, 2016 Meanwhile, PinePowerLI wants the defunct routes restored so he can take his joyrides with taxpayer's money to the south shore. His latest video complains about the residents not caring about bus service. LOL, get out of Nassau County if you want decent bus service! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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