rbrome Posted November 27, 2017 Share #801 Posted November 27, 2017 Wasn't this contract supposed to be awarded by now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 27, 2017 Share #802 Posted November 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, rbrome said: Wasn't this contract supposed to be awarded by now? Facts, and the still hasn't said $#!* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNR Beacon Line Posted November 27, 2017 Share #803 Posted November 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: Facts, and the still hasn't said $#!* If that's the case could someone submit a FOIL request? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 27, 2017 Share #804 Posted November 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, MNR Beacon Line said: If that's the case could someone submit a FOIL request? How do I do that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 27, 2017 Share #805 Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Emails or paperwork. Lots. Patience. I'm sure a poster on here will fill us in. Edited November 27, 2017 by RR503 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted November 28, 2017 Share #806 Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, RR503 said: Emails or paperwork. Lots. Patience. I'm sure a poster on here will fill us in. They actually have a pretty good FOIL request system. I remember getting documents after just one email (granted, this was for an MNR study for Tappan Zee rail that never went anywhere, but i got a 200-pager study, which was way more than I bargained for) Edited November 28, 2017 by bobtehpanda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted November 28, 2017 Share #807 Posted November 28, 2017 22 hours ago, rbrome said: Wasn't this contract supposed to be awarded by now? I feel like the whole R179 situation may have made them step back and evaluate their choices more thoroughly. Even though I see Alskaw being the builders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 28, 2017 Share #808 Posted November 28, 2017 At this point, who's left? Bombardier can't bid, CRRC has withdrawn their bid if I'm not mistaken and nobody else has expressed any real interest in this order. The Alstom-Kawasaki team will get the bid by default if no one else puts out a bid. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted November 28, 2017 Share #809 Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) I’m surprised no one else has. Not Siemens, CAF, Stadler or Hitachi? Edited November 28, 2017 by T to Dyre Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted November 28, 2017 Share #810 Posted November 28, 2017 Siemens is merging with Alstom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 28, 2017 Share #811 Posted November 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, Union Tpke said: Siemens is merging with Alstom. heh, so will that mean that if Alstom or kawasaki win the contract, the R211 could potentially have the siemens propulsion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted November 29, 2017 Share #812 Posted November 29, 2017 AFAIK, it's too late to change the design in any meaningful way, so naturally this is moment the MTA has chosen to solicit input from the public: http://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/nyc-transit-host-open-house-customer-feedback-design-new-subway-cars 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted November 29, 2017 Share #813 Posted November 29, 2017 To say they reached out for customer input of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 29, 2017 Share #814 Posted November 29, 2017 well, i personally like it already 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr1nyc1 Posted November 30, 2017 Share #815 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 17 hours ago, rbrome said: AFAIK, it's too late to change the design in any meaningful way, so naturally this is moment the MTA has chosen to solicit input from the public: http://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/nyc-transit-host-open-house-customer-feedback-design-new-subway-cars I heard of this on CBS2 this morning. I will be heading over there today after work to check it out. Thanks Edited November 30, 2017 by pr1nyc1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted November 30, 2017 Share #816 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Lance said: To say they reached out for customer input of course. Exactly. (emphasis mine) Edited November 30, 2017 by rbrome 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon2305 Posted November 30, 2017 Share #817 Posted November 30, 2017 Daily News Reports: Check it out! http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/mta-unveils-models-future-subway-cars-viewing-article-1.3667877 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted November 30, 2017 Share #818 Posted November 30, 2017 I love the doors and everything about the door area. I love the smooth, curvy ceiling and continuous LED lighting. I love the large full/multi-color displays with mixed-case text (mixed-case is proven to be easier to read). The yellow bars everywhere add way too much visual noise; that looks like garbage. I'm looking forward to checking this part in person, but from what I can see in photos: Still way too few handholds. A short person should able to easily reach a bar standing at any point in the car, and that does not appear to be the case. In a similar vein, every other modern subway car in the world has clusters of three vertical grab-bars in the center. WHY would the MTA opt for just two? It makes no sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted November 30, 2017 Share #819 Posted November 30, 2017 why Just now, rbrome said: I love the doors and everything about the door area. I love the smooth, curvy ceiling and continuous LED lighting. I love the large full/multi-color displays with mixed-case text (mixed-case is proven to be easier to read). The yellow bars everywhere add way too much visual noise; that looks like garbage. I'm looking forward to checking this part in person, but from what I can see in photos: Still way too few handholds. A short person should able to easily reach a bar standing at any point in the car, and that does not appear to be the case. In a similar vein, every other modern subway car in the world has clusters of three vertical grab-bars in the center. WHY would the MTA opt for just two? It makes no sense. maybe they are trying to elimnate the showtime dancers? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted November 30, 2017 Share #820 Posted November 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, rbrome said: I love the doors and everything about the door area. I love the smooth, curvy ceiling and continuous LED lighting. I love the large full/multi-color displays with mixed-case text (mixed-case is proven to be easier to read). The yellow bars everywhere add way too much visual noise; that looks like garbage. I'm looking forward to checking this part in person, but from what I can see in photos: Still way too few handholds. A short person should able to easily reach a bar standing at any point in the car, and that does not appear to be the case. In a similar vein, every other modern subway car in the world has clusters of three vertical grab-bars in the center. WHY would the MTA opt for just two? It makes no sense. They expect trains to get very crowded and for people to lean on each other without poles getting in the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted November 30, 2017 Share #821 Posted November 30, 2017 52 minutes ago, BreeddekalbL said: maybe they are trying to elimnate the showtime dancers? I don't see the difference. Maybe I didn't word that very well. I mean MTA should adopt this style: 45 minutes ago, CenSin said: They expect trains to get very crowded and for people to lean on each other without poles getting in the way. That's an open invitation for inappropriate sexual contact. It's a huge problem already, and the MTA should be doing more, especially given all the attention on this issue lately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted November 30, 2017 Share #822 Posted November 30, 2017 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted November 30, 2017 Share #823 Posted November 30, 2017 Just came from the R211 open house and overall was very impressed. They have new LED features for the doors and use different colors for flip-seats (yellow) and non-flip seats (blue). They also had a simulation of the FIND that looks similar to Strip maps, which I like. Besides the Cuomo appearance, I say I love these Trains and these are better to foam on than the R179s. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted November 30, 2017 Share #824 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Some first impressions (I rarely check these things out, but it was kind of on the way home for me and I had time to kill): The doors are wider and the red/green lighting looks cool. I like the door warning much better than what we have now. I'm just skeptical that these will make it to the production cars. I don't mind the five seats per bench, but I won't be surprised when people start to complain. I do like the fold up seats and the fact that they flip individually as opposed to a bench. I am worried that the little room between the door and the end of the bench will invite more people to stand near it (people will always hog the doors, but that extra space just makes it that much easier).1 I love the information displays and the FINDs. Not crazy about the voice recordings though (maybe I'm too used to Charlie Pellett and the others, but the new recordings don't sound right). Still, looking forward to these cars and I like the interior scheme as well. P.S. When this was leaked a while ago, it had the NYS seal on the side. I found it interesting that they removed it. Edited November 30, 2017 by Bosco 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted November 30, 2017 Share #825 Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, MysteriousBtrain said: Besides the Cuomo appearance, I say I love these Trains and these are better to foam on than the R179s. The R179s aren't even that different from the R160s and most riders won't be able to tell them apart except for the cleanliness (for now). The hype of that train is unwarranted and the product of a bunch of bandwagoners. At least with this mockup, there will be something else on the Facebook group besides 50 daily photos of the R179. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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