Around the Horn Posted May 15, 2019 Share #1301 Posted May 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Mockup? Didnt they do one already? This one is a fully functioning car for MTA big wigs to inspect before the order to proceed on the pilot set is given. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted May 16, 2019 Share #1302 Posted May 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Around the Horn said: This one is a fully functioning car for MTA big wigs to inspect before the order to proceed on the pilot set is given. The mockup car does have some functional components, but it is not fully functional. The purpose of the mockup is to prove as many static tests/designs as possible, so HVAC, software, doors, etc. In addition to build quality and TS compliance, the MTA also looks for maintainability of certain components. The mockup does not have propulsion equipment included (no traction motor, no inverter). Only the boxes for where the components would go are included, to ensure everything fits together and can be accessed easily. Just wanted to clear that up in case anyone thinks that car will see service, or run on its own power. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted May 16, 2019 Share #1303 Posted May 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Bosco said: The mockup car does have some functional components, but it is not fully functional. The purpose of the mockup is to prove as many static tests/designs as possible, so HVAC, software, doors, etc. In addition to build quality and TS compliance, the MTA also looks for maintainability of certain components. The mockup does not have propulsion equipment included (no traction motor, no inverter). Only the boxes for where the components would go are included, to ensure everything fits together and can be accessed easily. Just wanted to clear that up in case anyone thinks that car will see service, or run on its own power. So, what happens to it once they're done with it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted May 16, 2019 Share #1304 Posted May 16, 2019 10 hours ago, m7zanr160s said: So, what happens to it once they're done with it? Good question, I’m not entirely sure about the answer, because it depends on the contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted May 17, 2019 Share #1305 Posted May 17, 2019 Maybe donate it to Transit Tech. With the R42s all but retired, they could replace one of the R42s at the school with this R211 mock-up. Not sure what would replace the other R42, though with the R62s and R68s sticking around for the foreseeable future, perhaps it would be good for the school to have one SMEE-generation car and one New Tech-era car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted May 17, 2019 Share #1306 Posted May 17, 2019 58 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: Maybe donate it to Transit Tech. With the R42s all but retired, they could replace one of the R42s at the school with this R211 mock-up. Not sure what would replace the other R42, though with the R62s and R68s sticking around for the foreseeable future, perhaps it would be good for the school to have one SMEE-generation car and one New Tech-era car. bad ass school 😂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemorie Posted May 17, 2019 Share #1307 Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said: bad ass school 😂 I regret going to that school from day one. Worst school ever and a hoodlum environment too at that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted May 17, 2019 Share #1308 Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Jemorie said: I regret going to that school from day one. Worst school ever and a hoodlum environment too at that. I’m saying bro , they really be wallin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted May 19, 2019 Share #1309 Posted May 19, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 8:43 PM, T to Dyre Avenue said: Maybe donate it to Transit Tech. With the R42s all but retired, they could replace one of the R42s at the school with this R211 mock-up. Not sure what would replace the other R42, though with the R62s and R68s sticking around for the foreseeable future, perhaps it would be good for the school to have one SMEE-generation car and one New Tech-era car. Nah. Saying this as a Transit Student myself, the trains are barely used and are just for Show for the most Part. Even the RTS that we acquired back in December. So I wouldn’t bother replacing the R42’s until they start being utilized more. On 5/16/2019 at 9:48 PM, Jemorie said: I regret going to that school from day one. Worst school ever and a hoodlum environment too at that. Damn right. It’s kinda annoying to deal with but I don’t mind it. Sounds like you weren’t able to make the best of your time there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted May 30, 2019 Share #1310 Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) New pic of the R211 mockup in Japan... This thing looks SHARP as hell Edited May 30, 2019 by Around the Horn 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjineer Posted May 30, 2019 Share #1311 Posted May 30, 2019 I gotta say, that cab door window looks a little odd. I hope it won't mean a lack of a view from the passenger area (hoping for the same polarized filter over the cab window from the inside) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted May 30, 2019 Share #1312 Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Enjineer said: I gotta say, that cab door window looks a little odd. I hope it won't mean a lack of a view from the passenger area (hoping for the same polarized filter over the cab window from the inside) I'd imagine they're either trying to reduce glare on the operator and/or preventing those handles on the left side of the door from scratching the glass. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted May 31, 2019 Share #1313 Posted May 31, 2019 That's likely tape on the windows (for protection or something) . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted May 31, 2019 Share #1314 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Keep ‘em coming! And if you look real close, you can see what appears to be a small square in the middle of the left side cab window. I’m assuming that’s for the route bullet. Glad they’re bringing that back, because it will be much easier to identify a train’s route from far away. Edited May 31, 2019 by T to Dyre Avenue 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted May 31, 2019 Share #1315 Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: Keep ‘em coming! And if you look real close, you can see what appears to be a small square in the middle of the left side cab window. I’m assuming that’s for the route bullet. Glad they’re bringing that back, because it will be much easier to identify a train’s route from far away. It is very annoying at Kew Gardens on weekends, when trying to distinguish the E and F for the R160s. It was also very annoying for the R32s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted May 31, 2019 Share #1316 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Fully agreed. I used to have to do that every day when I lived in Forest Hills. Even now, I still have to on those occasions when I transfer from the to the at Roosevelt. We’ll all still have to even after the R211s are in service. I mean, with all the interlining we have on the B-Division, it’s inevitable. Edited May 31, 2019 by T to Dyre Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 1, 2019 Share #1317 Posted June 1, 2019 Here's to hoping they'll upgrade those route bullets to full-color at some point. The cost of full-color LEDs has dropped significantly since the blood-red displays were first installed on the 142s back in 2000. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted June 1, 2019 Share #1318 Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Lance said: Here's to hoping they'll upgrade those route bullets to full-color at some point. The cost of full-color LEDs has dropped significantly since the blood-red displays were first installed on the 142s back in 2000. These are full color. Both the front and sides saw some of the shots from the MTA brass tests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted June 1, 2019 Share #1319 Posted June 1, 2019 I was talking about the ones found on the bulkheads of the 142s - 179s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whz1995 Posted June 1, 2019 Share #1320 Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lance said: Here's to hoping they'll upgrade those route bullets to full-color at some point. The cost of full-color LEDs has dropped significantly since the blood-red displays were first installed on the 142s back in 2000. labor cost is the problem.I mean that we dont want people to work 16hr/day for 365 days(just kidding) to change the route bullet LEDs which are kind of useless now. And they are also too small to see with full-colors. I still prefer to see those on the 46s/68s instead of those on 32s/160s. Edited June 1, 2019 by whz1995 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted June 2, 2019 Share #1321 Posted June 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, whz1995 said: labor cost is the problem.I mean that we dont want people to work 16hr/day for 365 days(just kidding) to change the route bullet LEDs which are kind of useless now. And they are also too small to see with full-colors. I still prefer to see those on the 46s/68s instead of those on 32s/160s. The front ones on the R46 and R68 are fine and have been for years now, no need to change it. The 32s are too old to need them now, but at least being able to distinguish color on the 142-179s helps a lot at rush hour. They’re also dirt cheap anyways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted June 2, 2019 Share #1322 Posted June 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Lance said: I was talking about the ones found on the bulkheads of the 142s - 179s. Gotcha! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco Posted June 2, 2019 Share #1323 Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 5:18 PM, Around the Horn said: I'd imagine they're either trying to reduce glare on the operator and/or preventing those handles on the left side of the door from scratching the glass. On closer inspection, the latch handles are actually recessed into the cab door, which would explain why the window of the cab door is narrower. I wonder if that was changed to improve the ability of crew members to get on and off the train between A cars (which was a problem on the R179s), because the original renderings had the handles simply mounted on like on older fleets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted July 7, 2019 Share #1324 Posted July 7, 2019 I wonder if we will get three pilot trains at the same time.. One pilot 10 car set for NYCT One 8 car set for NYCT And a pilot train for SIR. Was there three pilot trains in the early stages of the 160 order? I know Kawasaki and Astlom each had an 10 car pliot train but I'm not sure when the first 8 car set came. We should at least get one pilot set each for NYCT and SIR at the same time IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted July 8, 2019 Share #1325 Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, trainfan22 said: I wonder if we will get three pilot trains at the same time.. One pilot 10 car set for NYCT One 8 car set for NYCT And a pilot train for SIR. Was there three pilot trains in the early stages of the 160 order? I know Kawasaki and Astlom each had an 10 car pliot train but I'm not sure when the first 8 car set came. We should at least get one pilot set each for NYCT and SIR at the same time IMO. But no. It's going by a particular, realistic schedule if there's no delays. There's no reason to truly rush to process. Kawasaki has done a good job so far based on their track record, I guess.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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