darkstar8983 Posted October 6, 2020 Share #1651 Posted October 6, 2020 and until the R211s get here (if necessary due to the COVID-related service reductions), the R32s and R46s can be temporarily "retired". Cars would need to be moved around though to ensure no R46s or R32s are in service should the service cuts occur: - Would use the 130 R179 (10-car units) + 230 R160s from Jamaica - Discontinued - R179 (8-car units, half of which are from ENY) - R68 - R160A-1 (and some R143s as necessary) - R160A-1 - R68 + R160B - R68A (from the ) -Discontinued - Discontinued / - R179 (4-car units from the train fleet). Yard moves: All R179 (8-car units transferred from ENY to 207 St/Pitkin Yards) - the fleet will be covered by the R160A-1 cars that would not need to be used on the and due to service frequency reductions. 230 R160s from Jamaica to Pitkin (the units that were on loan from the all summer to the ) 60 R160s from Jamaica to Coney Island (concurrent with proposed frequency reductions to the and ) 16 R68s from Concourse to Coney Island (the latter two transfers can be coordinated based on Coney Island's needs) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted October 8, 2020 Share #1652 Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) On 10/4/2020 at 11:31 PM, Vulturious said: Spare factor wouldn't increase by that much actually, all it would do is help mainly the and for extra service to be put onto it. If anything, with this they could "theoretically" bring back the for service on Brighton since these cars from the and are from Coney Island anyways. But they would need additional crews to run a service on top of the existing . It probably would cost less to run a vs the current service, but it’s probably not a whole lot less. But I do think it would be much better than having no Brighton express service at all, like in the early months of the pandemic. Edited October 8, 2020 by T to Dyre Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted October 8, 2020 Share #1653 Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: But they would need additional crews to run a service on top of the existing . It probably would cost less to run a vs the current service, but it’s probably not a whole lot less. But I do think it would be much better than having no Brighton express service at all, like in the early months of the pandemic. That's exactly what I'm getting at, having the would be using the same crew either both starting at Coney Island to allow crew changes to be easier or keep the at Brighton, regardless, they are going to the same northern destination. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mine248 Posted October 13, 2020 Share #1654 Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 11:32 AM, darkstar8983 said: and until the R211s get here (if necessary due to the COVID-related service reductions), the R32s and R46s can be temporarily "retired". Cars would need to be moved around though to ensure no R46s or R32s are in service should the service cuts occur: - Would use the 130 R179 (10-car units) + 230 R160s from Jamaica - Discontinued - R179 (8-car units, half of which are from ENY) - R68 - R160A-1 (and some R143s as necessary) - R160A-1 - R68 + R160B - R68A (from the ) -Discontinued - Discontinued / - R179 (4-car units from the train fleet). Yard moves: All R179 (8-car units transferred from ENY to 207 St/Pitkin Yards) - the fleet will be covered by the R160A-1 cars that would not need to be used on the and due to service frequency reductions. 230 R160s from Jamaica to Pitkin (the units that were on loan from the all summer to the ) 60 R160s from Jamaica to Coney Island (concurrent with proposed frequency reductions to the and ) 16 R68s from Concourse to Coney Island (the latter two transfers can be coordinated based on Coney Island's needs) Don’t think the can use 4 car 60’ trains. Iirc back when the used 4 car R32s post sandy, one set lost power over a third rail gap. Then the R46s replaced the R32s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted October 13, 2020 Share #1655 Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, mine248 said: Don’t think the can use 4 car 60’ trains. Iirc back when the used 4 car R32s post sandy, one set lost power over a third rail gap. Then the R46s replaced the R32s I thought it was to just have OPTO on the shuttle and have the R32s moved back to the and the loaned R42s back to the 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 13, 2020 Share #1656 Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, mine248 said: Don’t think the can use 4 car 60’ trains. Iirc back when the used 4 car R32s post sandy, one set lost power over a third rail gap. Then the R46s replaced the R32s they were gapping out due to the speed limit being 10mph over those switches. with the R46's since they're longer its not an issue. if the speed limit was increased then the R32's would have never had that issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted November 30, 2020 Share #1657 Posted November 30, 2020 It's official, the first test train won't be delivered until the first quarter of next year. https://www.amny.com/new-york/subway-slowdown-sleek-new-train-cars-running-late-in-pandemic/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted December 3, 2020 Share #1658 Posted December 3, 2020 That’s fine with me. It was to be expected. And it’s not really that far off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Express Posted December 3, 2020 Share #1659 Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: That’s fine with me. It was to be expected. And it’s not really that far off. Right? I was expecting it to be delayed by two or three years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted December 3, 2020 Share #1660 Posted December 3, 2020 12 hours ago, Bay Ridge Express said: Right? I was expecting it to be delayed by two or three years. ......Why? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted December 3, 2020 Share #1661 Posted December 3, 2020 20 hours ago, Bay Ridge Express said: Right? I was expecting it to be delayed by two or three years. 8 hours ago, LTA1992 said: ......Why? Depending on how young some of these whippersnappers are, the recent R179 delivery might've been one of the only orders that came out while they were paying attention. It has been a decade since the last R160s entered service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Express Posted December 4, 2020 Share #1662 Posted December 4, 2020 10 hours ago, LTA1992 said: ......Why? IDK, maybe because of the pandemic? 2 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: Depending on how young some of these whippersnappers are, the recent R179 delivery might've been one of the only orders that came out while they were paying attention. It has been a decade since the last R160s entered service. What are you even saying? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted December 4, 2020 Share #1663 Posted December 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Bay Ridge Express said: IDK, maybe because of the pandemic? What are you even saying? I think hes saying that for the younger posters, the R179s are the first orders that they aware of, as they might have been really young when the 160s were coming in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Posted December 6, 2020 Share #1664 Posted December 6, 2020 On 11/30/2020 at 4:53 PM, subwaycommuter1983 said: It's official, the first test train won't be delivered until the first quarter of next year. https://www.amny.com/new-york/subway-slowdown-sleek-new-train-cars-running-late-in-pandemic/ I pretty much knew they were going to be delayed for the moment bc when July came I was just wondering where they were lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTA1992 Posted December 7, 2020 Share #1665 Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) On 12/3/2020 at 8:16 PM, Bay Ridge Express said: IDK, maybe because of the pandemic? What are you even saying? So what there's a pandemic? It's not the Spanish Flu. It's something we know can be kept at bay with proper distance, basic hygiene, mask wearing, and proper ventilation. Not something Kawasaki and it's suppliers shouldn't be able to easily handle. Remember, it only got so far because of ignorance on a macro scale. Based off that, and other current events, one could infer that the delay wouldn't have been more than six to ten months. Which is why I ask why one would think the delay would be years. Edited December 7, 2020 by LTA1992 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 7, 2020 Share #1666 Posted December 7, 2020 Kawasaki was actually very close to meeting the original delivery schedule until the suppliers for several key subsystems were effected. The train is reportedly complete enough that they’ve been signing it up as random routes in the factory. It looks good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted December 8, 2020 Share #1667 Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, LTA1992 said: Edited December 8, 2020 by Maxwell179 Delete , read it wrong 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted December 8, 2020 Share #1668 Posted December 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Around the Horn said: Kawasaki was actually very close to meeting the original delivery schedule until the suppliers for several key subsystems were effected. The train is reportedly complete enough that they’ve been signing it up as random routes in the factory. It looks good. Are there any new pictures ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted December 8, 2020 Share #1669 Posted December 8, 2020 No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted December 8, 2020 Share #1670 Posted December 8, 2020 12 hours ago, Maxwell179 said: Are there any new pictures ? Not publicly, no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Ridge Express Posted December 9, 2020 Share #1671 Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) On 12/7/2020 at 11:02 AM, LTA1992 said: So what there's a pandemic? It's not the Spanish Flu. It's something we know can be kept at bay with proper distance, basic hygiene, mask wearing, and proper ventilation. Not something Kawasaki and it's suppliers shouldn't be able to easily handle. Remember, it only got so far because of ignorance on a macro scale. Based off that, and other current events, one could infer that the delay wouldn't have been more than six to ten months. Which is why I ask why one would think the delay would be years. It was an initial reaction, but now I get how they would be able to do it sooner, dw. Obviously we know a lot more about the pandemic now. But here on the forums, it's either you're not allowed to be eager for a delivery, or it seems like you're assuming the worst. Sigh... Edited December 9, 2020 by Bay Ridge Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainRider Railfan Posted December 19, 2020 Share #1672 Posted December 19, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 10:53 AM, mine248 said: Don’t think the can use 4 car 60’ trains. Iirc back when the used 4 car R32s post sandy, one set lost power over a third rail gap. Then the R46s replaced the R32s I've seen them running 60 footers before. They used 160s (too far to tell which kind from the sound), not sure if they were 4-car, 5-car, 8-car, or 10-car sets though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulturious Posted January 1, 2021 Share #1673 Posted January 1, 2021 So I just happened to have came across this on DJ Hammer's Discord server, a close up of the R211A. Unfortunately, the quality isn't as clear as I hoped it would be but I can't argue. There's also an instagram post of it. https://www.instagram.com/p/CJfUsshHZKt/?igshid=hhxuuwdcnki5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLine Posted January 1, 2021 Share #1674 Posted January 1, 2021 That is just a mockup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from Maspeth Posted January 1, 2021 Share #1675 Posted January 1, 2021 57 minutes ago, RedLine said: That is just a mockup. Nope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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