Vulturious Posted June 1, 2021 Share #2051 Posted June 1, 2021 So if I remember correctly, the R211A pilot test should be arriving this month right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted June 1, 2021 Share #2052 Posted June 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Vulturious said: So if I remember correctly, the R211A pilot test should be arriving this month right? It's July now: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10 2952 Posted June 1, 2021 Share #2053 Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, rbrome said: It's July now: Gotta love how her first instinct is to protect Cuomo; what a f**king tool... 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 2, 2021 Share #2054 Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, R10 2952 said: Gotta love how her first instinct is to protect Cuomo; what a f**king tool... the dummies at and the dummies (riding public) don't understand that the chip shortage is the main reason why these cars are delayed. also maybe if they had spares for CI's R46's, the lines wouldn't have such delays 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 2, 2021 Share #2055 Posted June 2, 2021 55 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: the dummies at and the dummies (riding public) don't understand that the chip shortage is the main reason why these cars are delayed. also maybe if they had spares for CI's R46's, the lines wouldn't have such delays It's funny because absent that, the train has looked ready to go for months now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 2, 2021 Share #2056 Posted June 2, 2021 45 minutes ago, Around the Horn said: It's funny because absent that, the train has looked ready to go for months now It's probably testing, R&D and other things that could hold it up. also vendor that probably still have certain parts. but as for the entire production of the base order, that would be delayed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted June 2, 2021 Share #2057 Posted June 2, 2021 Let's not forget that the pandemic really screw things up with the r211's. If it weren't for the pandemic, the test train would have entered service and perhaps even start seeing a few base production trains being delivered and tested The MTA should consider running less r46's during the weekends, especially during the summer. The NQ can use CI r68's and r160's. Jamaica and ENY can loan a few of their NTT's to the AC during the weekends. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted June 2, 2021 Share #2058 Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Let's not forget that the pandemic really screw things up with the r211's. If it weren't for the pandemic, the test train would have entered service and perhaps even start seeing a few base production trains being delivered and tested The MTA should consider running less r46's during the weekends, especially during the summer. The NQ can use CI r68's and r160's. Jamaica and ENY can loan a few of their NTT's to the AC during the weekends. Yes agreed. on weekends (especially the ones when the is cut off from Coney Island), use those R160s on the and some of the ‘s R68s can run on the to give the R46s a break 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 2, 2021 Share #2059 Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Let's not forget that the pandemic really screw things up with the r211's. If it weren't for the pandemic, the test train would have entered service and perhaps even start seeing a few base production trains being delivered and tested The MTA should consider running less r46's during the weekends, especially during the summer. The NQ can use CI r68's and r160's. Jamaica and ENY can loan a few of their NTT's to the AC during the weekends. This isn't necessary at all. The R46s aren't that bad. They ran R32s on literally the longest line in the system off peak and weekends and the R46s are far more reliable than the R32s were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 3, 2021 Share #2060 Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, trainfan22 said: This isn't necessary at all. The R46s aren't that bad. They ran R32s on literally the longest line in the system off peak and weekends and the R46s are far more reliable than the R32s were. Pitkin ones are fine, the CI ones are garbage, if the idiots just put them on the this would be a non issue. On 6/2/2021 at 3:15 PM, subwaycommuter1983 said: Let's not forget that the pandemic really screw things up with the r211's. If it weren't for the pandemic, the test train would have entered service and perhaps even start seeing a few base production trains being delivered and tested The MTA should consider running less r46's during the weekends, especially during the summer. The NQ can use CI r68's and r160's. Jamaica and ENY can loan a few of their NTT's to the AC during the weekends. This would be a Big waste of money, They already low on R46 spares but borrowing R160's from ENY/Jamaica for the lines would be a big issue and a nightmare to do. It's alot easier for the CI routes to borrow r160's from the since they have lay ups in CI yard and Ave X yard. Edited June 3, 2021 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted June 4, 2021 Share #2061 Posted June 4, 2021 18 hours ago, R32 3838 said: Pitkin ones are fine, the CI ones are garbage, if the idiots just put them on the this would be a non issue. This would be a Big waste of money, They already low on R46 spares but borrowing R160's from ENY/Jamaica for the lines would be a big issue and a nightmare to do. It's alot easier for the CI routes to borrow r160's from the since they have lay ups in CI yard and Ave X yard. According to previous posts, the main issue with putting r46's on the B is Concourse Yard, since some B's are stored in Concourse Yard. It's a small yard and apparently they only want to deal with 1 fleet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 4, 2021 Share #2062 Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: According to previous posts, the main issue with putting r46's on the B is Concourse Yard, since some B's are stored in Concourse Yard. It's a small yard and apparently they only want to deal with 1 fleet. I know, but they need to figure out something because running 45 year old subway cars on 4 24/7 routes with very little spare factor is a problem. the R32's had the largest spare factor in the system and still had low MDBF due to age. the R46's will suffer the same fate. when the R46's were only at Jamaica and pitkin, this wasn't as much of a problem since the had a large spare factor of R46's and Jamaica mainly ran the r46's on the with a small chunk on the rush hours only and on weekends they used the R160 yard lay ups on the to give the r46's a break. this is why i think it was a big mistake to take the r32's OOS so early. they should have waited until the first R211 hit service to retire the remaining R32's. Edited June 4, 2021 by R32 3838 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted June 4, 2021 Share #2063 Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, R32 3838 said: I know, but they need to figure out something because running 45 year old subway cars on 4 24/7 routes with very little spare factor is a problem. the R32's had the largest spare factor in the system and still had low MDBF due to age. the R46's will suffer the same fate. when the R46's were only at Jamaica and pitkin, this wasn't as much of a problem since the had a large spare factor of R46's and Jamaica mainly ran the r46's on the with a small chunk on the rush hours only and on weekends they used the R160 yard lay ups on the to give the r46's a break. This is the same agency that would rather keep the R32's out of service instead of being smart and increasing the spare factor. If enough people actually complain and realize that MTA has trains that they aren't running, they'd put them in service in a heartbeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 4, 2021 Share #2064 Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: This is the same agency that would rather keep the R32's out of service instead of being smart and increasing the spare factor. If enough people actually complain and realize that MTA has trains that they aren't running, they'd put them in service in a heartbeat. IMO just run atleast 5 sets on the as lefferts put ins, The Problem is that you still have the pandemic, high crime and the fact they are half cabs makes it an issue. assaults on workers has gone up and Conductor safety plays a major role, The half cabs pose a problem. even if they chain off the area, some jackass is going to do something stupid that can lead to an assault. this is why I was wondering why they are pushing for full service when they know they don't want the R32's on the road. also here's an R211 update https://trafficnews-jp.translate.goog/post/107624?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv Edited June 4, 2021 by R32 3838 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted June 4, 2021 Share #2065 Posted June 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: IMO just run atleast 5 sets on the as lefferts put ins, The Problem is that you still have the pandemic, high crime and the fact they are half cabs makes it an issue. assaults on workers has gone up and Conductor safety plays a major role, The half cabs pose a problem. even if they chain off the area, some jackass is going to do something stupid that can lead to an assault. this is why I was wondering why they are pushing for full service when they know they don't want the R32's on the road. also here's an R211 update https://trafficnews-jp.translate.goog/post/107624?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv The half cabs are the issue, but there's also the issue of how they're going to run full service when they don't have enough cars. Back before the whole pandemic and modified plan even happened, the R32's or some of the R46's were suppose to go to the to keep the mileage down, which would've bumped the R68's to CI with more cars. Another issue is the and the . The R46's are operating 24/7 on three heavily demanding lines (including the ). They try to keep the R160's on Astoria and have the be full R46 but it never seems to work out the way they want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 4, 2021 Share #2066 Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: The half cabs are the issue, but there's also the issue of how they're going to run full service when they don't have enough cars. Back before the whole pandemic and modified plan even happened, the R32's or some of the R46's were suppose to go to the to keep the mileage down, which would've bumped the R68's to CI with more cars. Another issue is the and the . The R46's are operating 24/7 on three heavily demanding lines (including the ). They try to keep the R160's on Astoria and have the be full R46 but it never seems to work out the way they want. yeah I always said that the whole thing on the with the r46's isn't working out at all. cars are constantly having dead motors and having issues, I have friends who work these lines and they all told me these R46's are garbage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2067 Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, R32 3838 said: also here's an R211 update https://trafficnews-jp.translate.goog/post/107624?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv Thanks for sharing this information. I thought these trains are being built in Nebraska. but the article says that they are being shipped from Japan. Edited June 5, 2021 by subwaycommuter1983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2068 Posted June 5, 2021 6 hours ago, R32 3838 said: IMO just run atleast 5 sets on the as lefferts put ins, The Problem is that you still have the pandemic, high crime and the fact they are half cabs makes it an issue. assaults on workers has gone up and Conductor safety plays a major role, The half cabs pose a problem. even if they chain off the area, some jackass is going to do something stupid that can lead to an assault. this is why I was wondering why they are pushing for full service when they know they don't want the R32's on the road. also here's an R211 update https://trafficnews-jp.translate.goog/post/107624?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=ajax,nv The r32's are in worse shape than the r46's. If the MTA decides to put some r32's back in service, they'll most likely put in on the JZ line since it's a shorter line that runs mostly outdoors which will bump more r179's to the C. Also, there was a rumor last year that workers that operate the A/C didn't want the r32's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2069 Posted June 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Thanks for sharing this information. I thought these trains are being built in Nebraska. but the article says that they are being shipped from Japan. they are being built 100% in Nebraska 2 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: The r32's are in worse shape than the r46's. If the MTA decides to put some r32's back in service, they'll most likely put in on the JZ line since it's a shorter line that runs mostly outdoors which will bump more r179's to the C. Also, there was a rumor last year that workers that operate the A/C didn't want the r32's. Body wise the R46's are alot worse than the R32's. But If they were to bring them back, the would be the best choice due to costs. if you have them at ENY then, ENY would have to lose their r179's to 207th making the 100% R179's and the / 50-60% R32's like in 2014-2018 meaning 50% of the R32 fleet in ENY would have to run all day. the uses the R179's alot more now due to the having a dedicated fleet of R160's due to Queens CBTC. the only uses 8613-8652 and 9943-74 along with about 3-4 R143's, the rest are R179's. By having about 3-4 sets on the you could run them as rush hour lefferts put ins. But it does make logical sense to have them on the / Edited June 5, 2021 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railfanner Jake Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2070 Posted June 5, 2021 10 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Thanks for sharing this information. I thought these trains are being built in Nebraska. but the article says that they are being shipped from Japan. My understanding is that the pilot open gangway set is coming from Japan. The regular 211A pilot set though and everything else will be built in Nebraska with final assembly at Yonkers most likely 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTKateMeltonLine Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2071 Posted June 5, 2021 Any idea when the R211 testing begin & where? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2072 Posted June 5, 2021 3 hours ago, BMTKateMeltonLine said: Any idea when the R211 testing begin & where? Estimated delivery time is this summer. In terms of location, it will probably be the same location that were used to test the r179's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2073 Posted June 5, 2021 1 hour ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Estimated delivery time is this summer. In terms of location, it will probably be the same location that were used to test the r179's. that was the Broad Channel test track right ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 via Mosholu Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2074 Posted June 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said: that was the Broad Channel test track right ? Yes sir. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMTKateMeltonLine Posted June 5, 2021 Share #2075 Posted June 5, 2021 5 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: Estimated delivery time is this summer. In terms of location, it will probably be the same location that were used to test the r179's. Do yu know what time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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