biGC323232 Posted September 23, 2021 Share #2401 Posted September 23, 2021 9 hours ago, MHV9218 said: Gonna be a real bitch testing them on the A Division! Lol......Oh my bad to avoid the forum sarcasm i should have said all lines in the B division only...I thought that most members here knew the general rule that a B division car could never fit anywhere in the A division... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 23, 2021 Share #2402 Posted September 23, 2021 2 hours ago, biGC323232 said: Lol......Oh my bad to avoid the forum sarcasm i should have said all lines in the B division only...I thought that most members here knew the general rule that a B division car could never fit anywhere in the A division... Lol nah knew your point, just picturing a real tough and noisy clearance testing session... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted September 23, 2021 Share #2403 Posted September 23, 2021 35 minutes ago, MHV9218 said: Lol nah knew your point, just picturing a real tough and noisy clearance testing session... I know u was just joking...lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakethrow Posted September 26, 2021 Share #2404 Posted September 26, 2021 Any feedback from those who got to operate these cars? How is the braking compared to the other NTTs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSearleFamily123 Posted October 18, 2021 Share #2405 Posted October 18, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 7:47 AM, Around the Horn said: I'm hoping it is that one. It could also be any of these: It's too bad GTO's have gone out of style... The sound the 1996 stock on the Jubliee line make would be awesome. Following investigation, the closest match from all those is the C751C of Singapore. Click here to take a virtual ride: (taken on 30/06/2020) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted October 22, 2021 Share #2406 Posted October 22, 2021 oh no, i heard the 211 derailed at ENY saw a picture on a facebook group 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted October 22, 2021 Share #2407 Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BreeddekalbL said: oh no, i heard the 211 derailed at ENY saw a picture on a facebook group They did not. It was a part of clearance testing at ENY yard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 22, 2021 Share #2408 Posted October 22, 2021 It derailed twice 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted October 22, 2021 Share #2409 Posted October 22, 2021 Yeah it was part of clearance testing, didn't derail. DJ Hammers mentioned this on his Discord server as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 22, 2021 Share #2410 Posted October 22, 2021 Just now, NoHacksJustKhaks said: Yeah it was part of clearance testing, didn't derail. DJ Hammers mentioned this on his Discord server as well. Unless I'm misinterpreting the curve, the photo proves otherwise. The offset between the cars is evident. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted October 22, 2021 Share #2411 Posted October 22, 2021 2 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: oh no, i heard the 211 derailed at ENY saw a picture on a facebook group Nah, the switch failed as it passed over it but it did not derail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted October 22, 2021 Share #2412 Posted October 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, BenTheMiner said: Unless I'm misinterpreting the curve, the photo proves otherwise. The offset between the cars is evident. The 211 did move again tho in that first image, even tho it remained at a fairly odd angle for quite some time. As for that second image, well i dunno. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 23, 2021 Share #2413 Posted October 23, 2021 7 hours ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said: Yeah it was part of clearance testing, didn't derail. DJ Hammers mentioned this on his Discord server as well. glad it didn't derail. I heard that the Kawasaki trains that operate on DC metro were pulled from service due to derailment. Fingers crossed that these issues don't affect the r211's or any of the other MTA Kawasaki trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenTheMiner Posted October 23, 2021 Share #2414 Posted October 23, 2021 10 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: glad it didn't derail. I heard that the Kawasaki trains that operate on DC metro were pulled from service due to derailment. Fingers crossed that these issues don't affect the r211's or any of the other MTA Kawasaki trains. It shouldn't, but if the train derails because of a faulty switch, then that's not much of a worry for Kawasaki or the R211. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted October 24, 2021 Share #2415 Posted October 24, 2021 What is everyones opinion on the following distribution of cars when the R211 order comes in? - 280 R211s + 100 R179s (+ 50 spare R211s + 30 R179s) - 190 R211s (+50 spare R211s) - 260 R211s (+60 spare R211s) - 15 R211s (5-car units) (+ 15 R211 spares in 5-car units) - 250 R160s (+60 spare R160s) - 300 R160s (+70 spare R160s) - 450 R211s (+80 spare R211s) - 24 R211s + 168 R160A-1 (+48 spare R160A-1 and +8 R211 (8-car units)) / - 210 R160s + 96 R68 (+ 20 spare R160s and +40 spare R68s) - 176 R68As (+ 24 spare R68As + 24 spare R68s) - 300 R160s (+ 70 spare R160s) - 96 R160A-1 (+ 48 R160A-1 spares) / - 160 R179 (8-car units) (+ 28 spare R179s and +24 rotating spare R143s from the ) - 144 R143 cars + 56 R211 cars (+ 40 spare R143s (non-rotating from the and +40 R211 spares) R211 order in this case would be: 1450 R211 cars in 10-car sets for the main subway 128 R211s in 8-car sets for the Eastern Division 75 cars for Staten Island Railway Total: 1643 cars total The main purpose of this ordering is to give 1. The a full 600' fleet without having to worry about a partial R179 480' fleet mixed with R211s 2. The would increase to 480' trains once and for all to anticipate potential service increases (at least weekdays) - weekends, the trains can use 240' trains. The more logical way to do it (meaning, not giving wider doors to the is to put the 8-car R211s on the and shift the 64 -specific R160As to the , along with the R160s assigned to the , receiving the 's R179s. The could also transfer a subset of R143s to the to improve the spare factor on the , since the 's spare factor would stay intact with the R211s. A couple of R211 8-car trains would have to run in service to ensure a full 8-car R160 fleet for the + spare factor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomnewyorker23 Posted October 24, 2021 Share #2416 Posted October 24, 2021 I swear to god Kawasaki if these R211's start acting up- 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomnewyorker23 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #2417 Posted October 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, darkstar8983 said: What is everyones opinion on the following distribution of cars when the R211 order comes in? - 280 R211s + 100 R179s (+ 50 spare R211s + 30 R179s) - 190 R211s (+50 spare R211s) - 260 R211s (+60 spare R211s) - 15 R211s (5-car units) (+ 15 R211 spares in 5-car units) - 250 R160s (+60 spare R160s) - 300 R160s (+70 spare R160s) - 450 R211s (+80 spare R211s) - 24 R211s + 168 R160A-1 (+48 spare R160A-1 and +8 R211 (8-car units)) / - 210 R160s + 96 R68 (+ 20 spare R160s and +40 spare R68s) - 176 R68As (+ 24 spare R68As + 24 spare R68s) - 300 R160s (+ 70 spare R160s) - 96 R160A-1 (+ 48 R160A-1 spares) / - 160 R179 (8-car units) (+ 28 spare R179s and +24 rotating spare R143s from the ) - 144 R143 cars + 56 R211 cars (+ 40 spare R143s (non-rotating from the and +40 R211 spares) R211 order in this case would be: 1450 R211 cars in 10-car sets for the main subway 128 R211s in 8-car sets for the Eastern Division 75 cars for Staten Island Railway Total: 1643 cars total The main purpose of this ordering is to give 1. The a full 600' fleet without having to worry about a partial R179 480' fleet mixed with R211s 2. The would increase to 480' trains once and for all to anticipate potential service increases (at least weekdays) - weekends, the trains can use 240' trains. The more logical way to do it (meaning, not giving wider doors to the is to put the 8-car R211s on the and shift the 64 -specific R160As to the , along with the R160s assigned to the , receiving the 's R179s. The could also transfer a subset of R143s to the to improve the spare factor on the , since the 's spare factor would stay intact with the R211s. A couple of R211 8-car trains would have to run in service to ensure a full 8-car R160 fleet for the + spare factor. trains are now using the left over R160's from the // lines (Well the had to get revenge somehow because it had R46's for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #2418 Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, randomnewyorker23 said: trains are now using the left over R160's from the // lines (Well the had to get revenge somehow because it had R46's for years. Yes, but they are only using 5 car trains. The G will need 8 car trains and the C will need 10 car trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaycommuter1983 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #2419 Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: What is everyones opinion on the following distribution of cars when the R211 order comes in? - 280 R211s + 100 R179s (+ 50 spare R211s + 30 R179s) - 190 R211s (+50 spare R211s) - 260 R211s (+60 spare R211s) - 15 R211s (5-car units) (+ 15 R211 spares in 5-car units) - 250 R160s (+60 spare R160s) - 300 R160s (+70 spare R160s) - 450 R211s (+80 spare R211s) - 24 R211s + 168 R160A-1 (+48 spare R160A-1 and +8 R211 (8-car units)) / - 210 R160s + 96 R68 (+ 20 spare R160s and +40 spare R68s) - 176 R68As (+ 24 spare R68As + 24 spare R68s) - 300 R160s (+ 70 spare R160s) - 96 R160A-1 (+ 48 R160A-1 spares) / - 160 R179 (8-car units) (+ 28 spare R179s and +24 rotating spare R143s from the ) - 144 R143 cars + 56 R211 cars (+ 40 spare R143s (non-rotating from the and +40 R211 spares) R211 order in this case would be: 1450 R211 cars in 10-car sets for the main subway 128 R211s in 8-car sets for the Eastern Division 75 cars for Staten Island Railway Total: 1643 cars total The main purpose of this ordering is to give 1. The a full 600' fleet without having to worry about a partial R179 480' fleet mixed with R211s 2. The would increase to 480' trains once and for all to anticipate potential service increases (at least weekdays) - weekends, the trains can use 240' trains. The more logical way to do it (meaning, not giving wider doors to the is to put the 8-car R211s on the and shift the 64 -specific R160As to the , along with the R160s assigned to the , receiving the 's R179s. The could also transfer a subset of R143s to the to improve the spare factor on the , since the 's spare factor would stay intact with the R211s. A couple of R211 8-car trains would have to run in service to ensure a full 8-car R160 fleet for the + spare factor. I like the fact that you are addressing the BD trains getting NTT's since both lines get rerouted through 8th Avenue, which will become CBTC and r68's won't be able to go through 8th Avenue once CBTC is installed. 6th Avenue needs to be the next segment to get CBTC. It just doesn't make sense to worsen service on 6th Avenue by improving service on 8th Avenue. BOTH 8th Avenue and 6th Avenue need CBTC because ABCDEF trains get rerouted pretty often. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #2420 Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, darkstar8983 said: What is everyones opinion on the following distribution of cars when the R211 order comes in? - 280 R211s + 100 R179s (+ 50 spare R211s + 30 R179s) - 190 R211s (+50 spare R211s) - 260 R211s (+60 spare R211s) - 15 R211s (5-car units) (+ 15 R211 spares in 5-car units) - 250 R160s (+60 spare R160s) - 300 R160s (+70 spare R160s) - 450 R211s (+80 spare R211s) - 24 R211s + 168 R160A-1 (+48 spare R160A-1 and +8 R211 (8-car units)) / - 210 R160s + 96 R68 (+ 20 spare R160s and +40 spare R68s) - 176 R68As (+ 24 spare R68As + 24 spare R68s) - 300 R160s (+ 70 spare R160s) - 96 R160A-1 (+ 48 R160A-1 spares) / - 160 R179 (8-car units) (+ 28 spare R179s and +24 rotating spare R143s from the ) - 144 R143 cars + 56 R211 cars (+ 40 spare R143s (non-rotating from the and +40 R211 spares) R211 order in this case would be: 1450 R211 cars in 10-car sets for the main subway 128 R211s in 8-car sets for the Eastern Division 75 cars for Staten Island Railway Total: 1643 cars total The main purpose of this ordering is to give 1. The a full 600' fleet without having to worry about a partial R179 480' fleet mixed with R211s 2. The would increase to 480' trains once and for all to anticipate potential service increases (at least weekdays) - weekends, the trains can use 240' trains. The more logical way to do it (meaning, not giving wider doors to the is to put the 8-car R211s on the and shift the 64 -specific R160As to the , along with the R160s assigned to the , receiving the 's R179s. The could also transfer a subset of R143s to the to improve the spare factor on the , since the 's spare factor would stay intact with the R211s. A couple of R211 8-car trains would have to run in service to ensure a full 8-car R160 fleet for the + spare factor. Nah, Somehow they will find a way to put some techs on the Anyway here's what I see happening R211 base order 535 cars R211A: Pitkin SIRT R211T: Jamaica for testing (Could Also go to pitkin for the for testing) R211 option order I 640 cars 100 cars to 207th to supplement the 130 R179's (These would be moved to 207th st from Pitkin Yard) 540 cars to Jamaica R211 Option Order II 437 cars 32 8 car units to ENY (Mainly for the but could see service on the since the uses equipment when the cars need CBTC troubleshooting) 405 cars Concourse (to Prepare for 6th ave CBTC, R68's would transfer to CI with some of the worst preforming cars in long term storage) Concourse gains an extra 55 cars for expanded service 207th: 130 R179,100 R211's Pitkin: 440 R211A's Jamaica: 770 R160's, 540 R211's Coney Island: 425 R68's (Could be less) , 200 R68A's, 520 R160's * 8713-9232 (The R160's would be split between the and / lines) Concourse: 405 R211's for upcoming 6th ave CBTC ENY: R143,R160,R179 and 32 R211's. It's unknown if the extra 8 car R179's would go back to the east for expanded service ( to south Brooklyn) or not. At this point they are not gonna have a choice. They could also use these for the and push the 8 car R160's To Jamaica for 8 or 9 car service. This could all be wrong with the exception of the Base order but I think this is the most realistic list. It's very predictable since 6th ave is getting CBTC. It's best to give the a whole new fleet vs Jamaica's leftovers. 14 hours ago, subwaycommuter1983 said: I like the fact that you are addressing the BD trains getting NTT's since both lines get rerouted through 8th Avenue, which will become CBTC and r68's won't be able to go through 8th Avenue once CBTC is installed. 6th Avenue needs to be the next segment to get CBTC. It just doesn't make sense to worsen service on 6th Avenue by improving service on 8th Avenue. BOTH 8th Avenue and 6th Avenue need CBTC because ABCDEF trains get rerouted pretty often. 6th Ave is next after 8th ave is done with CBTC. Astoria CBTC got canned-Pushed Back (IMO which is good, I rather them do Astoria and Broadway to at least Canal St. Not Astoria to 57th st.) Edited October 25, 2021 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #2421 Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: Nah, Somehow they will find a way to put some techs on the Anyway here's what I see happening R211 base order 535 cars R211A: Pitkin SIRT R211T: Jamaica for testing (Could Also go to pitkin for the for testing) R211 option order I 640 cars 100 cars to 207th to supplement the 130 R179's (These would be moved to 207th st from Pitkin Yard) 540 cars to Jamaica R211 Option Order II 437 cars 32 8 car units to ENY (Mainly for the but could see service on the since the uses equipment when the cars need CBTC troubleshooting) 405 cars Concourse (to Prepare for 6th ave CBTC, R68's would transfer to CI with some of the worst preforming cars in long term storage) Concourse gains an extra 55 cars for expanded service 207th: 130 R179,100 R211's Pitkin: 440 R211A's Jamaica: 770 R160's, 540 R211's Coney Island: 425 R68's (Could be less) , 200 R68A's, 520 R160's * 8713-9232 (The R160's would be split between the and / lines) Concourse: 405 R211's for upcoming 6th ave CBTC ENY: R143,R160,R179 and 32 R211's. It's unknown if the extra 8 car R179's would go back to the east for expanded service ( to south Brooklyn) or not. At this point they are not gonna have a choice. They could also use these for the and push the 8 car R160's To Jamaica for 8 or 9 car service. This could all be wrong with the exception of the Base order but I think this is the most realistic list. It's very predictable since 6th ave is getting CBTC. It's best to give the a whole new fleet vs Jamaica's leftovers. 6th Ave is next after 8th ave is done with CBTC. Astoria CBTC got canned-Pushed Back (IMO which is good, I rather them do Astoria and Broadway to at least Canal St. Not Astoria to 57th st.) I should have put as a disclaimer that the getting R160s vs. R211s instead of the and / was a possibility, but if the R211 design was to help with crowding, then the R211s on the and is the best choice, since you cannot really add additional trains to the line, like with the and . The choke point for the is the Cranberry St tunnel, which only CBTC can fix, but to what degree remains to be seen. The chokepoint is the DeKalb Av interlocking, which can be fixed with more efficient scheduling since the and cross over each other. The reason I suggested the 128 cars in 4-car units was to finally solve the train and ENY fleet requirement issues once and for all, while simultaneously solving the mixed train lengths on the line. And you cannot have mixed train lengths of the same fleet because you'll end up with operator-error related issues (not knowing the difference between an 8-car R179 and 10-car R179. A train implementation of 8-car units is going to also have to be done in one-go using a weekend GO or something that fully suspends the line and has crews trained on transitioning between 300' trains and 480' trains, or it will have the same problem. The chokepoint at 145 St and 59 St (southbound and northbound respectively) can be solved by extending the CBTC territory up from 59 St Columbus Circle to 168 St and Bedford Park Blvd Stations. As for the , they'll MAYBE have one or two tech trains run on it, but the main balance of leftover cars will be for the Edited October 25, 2021 by darkstar8983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted October 25, 2021 Share #2422 Posted October 25, 2021 53 minutes ago, R32 3838 said: Nah, Somehow they will find a way to put some techs on the Anyway here's what I see happening R211 base order 535 cars R211A: Pitkin SIRT R211T: Jamaica for testing (Could Also go to pitkin for the for testing) R211 option order I 640 cars 100 cars to 207th to supplement the 130 R179's (These would be moved to 207th st from Pitkin Yard) 540 cars to Jamaica R211 Option Order II 437 cars 32 8 car units to ENY (Mainly for the but could see service on the since the uses equipment when the cars need CBTC troubleshooting) 405 cars Concourse (to Prepare for 6th ave CBTC, R68's would transfer to CI with some of the worst preforming cars in long term storage) Concourse gains an extra 55 cars for expanded service 207th: 130 R179,100 R211's Pitkin: 440 R211A's Jamaica: 770 R160's, 540 R211's Coney Island: 425 R68's (Could be less) , 200 R68A's, 520 R160's * 8713-9232 (The R160's would be split between the and / lines) Concourse: 405 R211's for upcoming 6th ave CBTC ENY: R143,R160,R179 and 32 R211's. It's unknown if the extra 8 car R179's would go back to the east for expanded service ( to south Brooklyn) or not. At this point they are not gonna have a choice. They could also use these for the and push the 8 car R160's To Jamaica for 8 or 9 car service. This could all be wrong with the exception of the Base order but I think this is the most realistic list. It's very predictable since 6th ave is getting CBTC. It's best to give the a whole new fleet vs Jamaica's leftovers. 6th Ave is next after 8th ave is done with CBTC. Astoria CBTC got canned-Pushed Back (IMO which is good, I rather them do Astoria and Broadway to at least Canal St. Not Astoria to 57th st.) Sorry If it seemed that my distribution did not add up to 1612, but if the R179 order taught us anything, is that additional cars can be ordered during the order/delivery process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 26, 2021 Share #2423 Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) On 10/24/2021 at 11:20 PM, subwaycommuter1983 said: Yes, but they are only using 5 car trains. The G will need 8 car trains and the C will need 10 car trains. might go entirely 10 cars now or they can make it 9 cars with the 4 car R160's from ENY yard while the 8 car R179's replaces those R160's. It all depends on how they do things but I doubt the is going back to coney. So There will be other options now on how they will do fleet movements. the would require 65 5 car R160's and 52 4 car R160A-1's to form 13 9 car trains. So in total, Jamaica would need at least 72 R160A-1's from ENY for service 13 sets plus 5 sets of spare 4 car R160A-1's They could convert 8613-8652/9943-9974 to CBTC (If they are not converted yet) for the to run with the rest of the R160's, (The Siemens I see leaving Jamaica yard to go back to CIY) By doing this, The would be R143 and R179 with 1 or 2 R160A-1's (8313-8376 group) from the or Just 100% R179's and the could still be 100% R160 and wouldn't need the R179's. Plus the & would have an additional sets of R179's for increased service/Spare factor since there's like 92-96 R179's at 207th st if they still use the R143's/R160A-1's on the / I edited My List, Figured out what to do with those extra 8 car R179's. 10 hours ago, R32 3838 said: Nah, Somehow they will find a way to put some techs on the Anyway here's what I see happening R211 base order 535 cars R211A: Pitkin R211S: SIRT R211T: Jamaica for testing (Could Also go to pitkin for the for testing) R211 option order I 640 cars 100 cars to 207th to supplement the 130 R179's (These would be moved to 207th st from Pitkin Yard) These would Push out the 8 car R179's to ENY, ENY pushes out 8613-8652,9943-74 to Jamaica 540 cars to Jamaica to push out 520 R160B's back to CI (8713-9232) R211 Option Order II 437 cars 32 8 car units to ENY (Mainly for the but could see service on the since the uses equipment when the cars need CBTC troubleshooting) 405 cars Concourse (to Prepare for 6th ave CBTC, R68's would transfer to CI with some of the worst preforming cars in long term storage) Concourse gains an extra 55 cars for expanded service 207th: 130 R179,100 R211's Pitkin: 440 R211A's Jamaica: 770 R160A2's/B's, 72 R160A1's (for the to form 9 car trains) , 540 R211's (R160 fleet numbers: 8613-8712, 9233-9974) Coney Island: 425 R68's (Could be less) , 200 R68A's, 520 R160's * 8713-9232 (The R160's would be split between the and / lines) Concourse: 405 R211's for upcoming 6th ave CBTC ENY: R143,R160,R179 and 32 R211's. This could all be wrong with the exception of the Base order but I think this is the most realistic list. It's very predictable since 6th ave is getting CBTC. It's best to give the a whole new fleet vs Jamaica's leftovers. 6th Ave is next after 8th ave is done with CBTC. Astoria CBTC got canned-Pushed Back (IMO which is good, I rather them do Astoria and Broadway to at least Canal St. Not Astoria to 57th st.) Edited October 26, 2021 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted October 26, 2021 Share #2424 Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) I wanted to edit my quoted post but an hour has passed so I have to post again, I removed 20 cars from Jamaica and 207th gained 20 R211's 1 hour ago, R32 3838 said: Anyway here's what I see happening R211 base order 535 cars R211A: Pitkin R211S: SIRT R211T: Jamaica for testing (Could Also go to pitkin for the for testing) R211 option order I 640 cars 120 cars to 207th to supplement the 130 R179's (These would be moved to 207th st from Pitkin Yard) These would Push out the 8 car R179's to ENY to allow for 100% Full Length trains ENY pushes out 8613-8652,9943-74 to Jamaica to allow for 9 car trains 520 cars to Jamaica to push out 520 R160B's back to CI (8713-9232) R211 Option Order II 437 cars 32 8 car units to ENY (Mainly for the but could see service on the since the uses equipment when the cars need CBTC troubleshooting) 405 cars Concourse (to Prepare for 6th ave CBTC, R68's would transfer to CI with some of the worst preforming cars in long term storage) Concourse gains an extra 55 cars for expanded service 207th: 130 R179,120 R211's Pitkin: 440 R211A's Jamaica: 770 R160A2's/B's, 72 R160A1's (for the to form 9 car trains) , 520 R211's (R160 fleet numbers: 8613-8712, 9233-9974) Coney Island: 425 R68's (Could be less) , 200 R68A's, 520 R160's * 8713-9232 (The R160's would be split between the and / lines) Concourse: 405 R211's for upcoming 6th ave CBTC ENY: R143,R160,R179 and 32 R211's. This could all be wrong with the exception of the Base order but I think this is the most realistic list. It's very predictable since 6th ave is getting CBTC. It's best to give the a whole new fleet vs Jamaica's leftovers. 6th Ave is next after 8th ave is done with CBTC. Astoria CBTC got canned-Pushed Back (IMO which is good, I rather them do Astoria and Broadway to at least Canal St. Not Astoria to 57th st.) Edited October 26, 2021 by R32 3838 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrome Posted October 26, 2021 Share #2425 Posted October 26, 2021 Can the post from 2019 be un-pinned from the top of this thread? It's really old info at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.