R68 Subway Car Posted August 9, 2011 Share #176 Posted August 9, 2011 They can add a station between 7th Avenue and Prospect Park on the and . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68 Subway Car Posted August 9, 2011 Share #177 Posted August 9, 2011 I think they should merge Beverley Road and Courtelyou Road. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The I Man Posted August 9, 2011 Share #178 Posted August 9, 2011 exactly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 10, 2011 Share #179 Posted August 10, 2011 They can add a station between 7th Avenue and Prospect Park on the and . Where? In the middle of Prospect Park? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 10, 2011 Share #180 Posted August 10, 2011 That's what I thought too, but then I remembered Grand Army Plaza. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted August 10, 2011 Share #181 Posted August 10, 2011 That's what I thought too, but then I remembered Grand Army Plaza. The Grand Army Plaza and Seventh Avenue stations are basically one to two blocks apart at most. The downgrade between Seventh Ave and Prospect Park on the Brighton line begins under the Grand Army Plaza IRT station. A station between Seventh Ave and Prospect Park at the half way point would leave one well past the library on Flatbush Avenue in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by the fences for the Botanic Garden and the park. On a side note, if one wanted to reach the library building itself the closest access point was the now closed exits at the north end of the Eastern Parkway-Brooklyn Museum IRT station. The Grand Army Plaza station is basically the station for the monument and the surrounding neighborhood north of the park toward downtown Brooklyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 10, 2011 Share #182 Posted August 10, 2011 I think they should merge Beverley Road and Courtelyou Road. Already mentioned that: Speaking of mergers, I would have a new station built [brighton line] b/w Cortelyou and Beverley Rd and all trains stopping at that station while the 2 former stations serving as extended walkways to their respective street level exits. The new station would have wider platforms and exits at the middle of the platform. And do you have an issue with using the edit button? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 10, 2011 Share #183 Posted August 10, 2011 The Grand Army Plaza and Seventh Avenue stations are basically one to two blocks apart at most. The downgrade between Seventh Ave and Prospect Park on the Brighton line begins under the Grand Army Plaza IRT station. A station between Seventh Ave and Prospect Park at the half way point would leave one well past the library on Flatbush Avenue in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by the fences for the Botanic Garden and the park. On a side note, if one wanted to reach the library building itself the closest access point was the now closed exits at the north end of the Eastern Parkway-Brooklyn Museum IRT station. The Grand Army Plaza station is basically the station for the monument and the surrounding neighborhood north of the park toward downtown Brooklyn.Still, the plaza is big, and to get from the Seventh Ave station to the library you have to go those two blocks uphill, and then all the way around to the other side, and as you said, the closest access is now closed, so a station there would be useful. (It's not midway, but then I don't think he said it had to be midway). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted August 10, 2011 Share #184 Posted August 10, 2011 Still, the plaza is big, and to get from the Seventh Ave station to the library you have to go those two blocks uphill, and then all the way around to the other side, and as you said, the closest access is now closed, so a station there would be useful. (It's not midway, but then I don't think he said it had to be midway). The safest way is to use the Brooklyn Museum station and avoid crossing Flatbush Ave and/or Eastern Parkway, period. To build a Brighton line station adjacent to the library would be a waste of money IMO. It would only be two or three train lengths from the existing Seventh Ave station which is probably why it was never proposed or built back in the day. Remember the original Brighton line used the existing Franklin Shuttle ROW to get to downtown Brooklyn and Park Row. The library's ground breaking was in 1912 and the present Brighton route opened in 1920 so I guess the BRT never considered a Grand Army Plaza stop because they did have time to plan for and build it if they wanted to. Just my opinion. Carry on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted August 11, 2011 Share #185 Posted August 11, 2011 I know it would be a waste of money, but still, it would be useful, and not in the middle of the park (which is what I was addressing). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3348 Posted August 11, 2011 Share #186 Posted August 11, 2011 I would have train stops at 2nd Ave. and Avenue B instead of at 1st and 3rd Aves. 3rd Avenue is a given as it's only a block away from Union Sq., and walking to Alphabet City is a bitch depending on how far in you have to go (good luck if you're going to Ave. D...). Also, when (if) the SAS reaches down there in Phase 3 anyway it would make the 14th St. transfer to the that much easier. Similarly, I would add 2nd Ave. stations to the , , and lines. No one's going to want to walk 2 avenues down to the Lexington Ave. stations when the SAS opens, and 2nd Ave. is populated enough to warrant stations too. I doubt those are possible under existing conditions though. As has been mentioned earlier in this thread I would have stations at 5th Ave. - 63rd St. , Union Ave. (closing Hewes and Lorimer) and 103rd St. . Is a station at Allerton Ave. necessary? It's really close to Gun Hill Rd. as it is. I also don't think it's necessary to add any more 28th St. stations since you're never more than 5 blocks away from a station between 23rd and 34th streets. You don't want too many stops as that just makes commuting slower. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rell Posted August 11, 2011 Share #187 Posted August 11, 2011 I would have train stops at 2nd Ave. and Avenue B instead of at 1st and 3rd Aves. 3rd Avenue is a given as it's only a block away from Union Sq., and walking to Alphabet City is a bitch depending on how far in you have to go (good luck if you're going to Ave. D...). Also, when (if) the SAS reaches down there in Phase 3 anyway it would make the 14th St. transfer to the that much easier. Similarly, I would add 2nd Ave. stations to the , , and lines. No one's going to want to walk 2 avenues down to the Lexington Ave. stations when the SAS opens, and 2nd Ave. is populated enough to warrant stations too. I doubt those are possible under existing conditions though. I agree with the train idea. About the Second Av. stations, while they would be convenient stations, they wouldn't work: There is already a Second Av. station on the (hence it's title, 2nd Av). The won't happen because the Queens-bound end of 53 St. - Lexington Av. is at, if not passed Third Av. Similar with the at 59 St. - Lexington Av. AND the at Grand Central. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 11, 2011 Share #188 Posted August 11, 2011 The only problem with the having a stop under 2nd Av would be the steep decent when heading down to the river tunnel - IIRC. But I do think that it would've been nice to have given the 'Lexington Av' stop is really more under Park Av instead. If I could change a stop on the , I would close 5th Av and have the stop placed at 6th, so people need only to walk up/down a flight of stairs to get b/w the and 6th Av lines. Way better than to walk down that long corridor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadifyDan Posted August 11, 2011 Share #189 Posted August 11, 2011 I agree with the train idea. About the Second Av. stations, while they would be convenient stations, they wouldn't work: There is already a Second Av. station on the (hence it's title, 2nd Av). The won't happen because the Queens-bound end of 53 St. - Lexington Av. is at, if not passed Third Av. Similar with the at 59 St. - Lexington Av. AND the at Grand Central. These are great points. The L train scenario is an interesting one. In theory I would love it at 2nd Ave and Ave B, but am curious if the reason it wasn't constructed like that originally is because of fears of under utilization closer to Alphabet City. Clearly that wouldn't be the case these days... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoking66 Posted August 12, 2011 Share #190 Posted August 12, 2011 I agree with the train idea. About the Second Av. stations, while they would be convenient stations, they wouldn't work: There is already a Second Av. station on the (hence it's title, 2nd Av). The won't happen because the Queens-bound end of 53 St. - Lexington Av. is at, if not passed Third Av. Similar with the at 59 St. - Lexington Av. AND the at Grand Central. Except the is 14 blocks south of the . Building those two proposed stops in conjunction with the Second Avenue Subway if/when it goes that far south would certainly be smarter and create an easy interchange. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted August 18, 2011 Share #191 Posted August 18, 2011 Central Park West between 110 Street and 96 Street Utica Avenue (LIRR) Tillary Avenue ( for some reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67thAve Posted August 18, 2011 Share #192 Posted August 18, 2011 Central Park West-103rd Street ( 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67thAve Posted August 18, 2011 Share #193 Posted August 18, 2011 Queens 165th Street Brooklyn Linden Bvld. Bayard Street-McCarren Park Manhattan 66th Street ( 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 19, 2011 Share #194 Posted August 19, 2011 Revival of the old IRT double local that ran on Lexington south of 42nd St and Broadway north of it. 8 local train. --START-- Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall Canal St Spring St Bleecker St Astor Pl 14 St - Union Sq 23 St 28 St 33 St 42 St - Grand Central 42 St - Times Square 50 St 59 St - Columbus Circle 66 St 72 St 79 St 86 St 96 St 103 St 110 St 116 St 125 St 137 St 145 St 157 St 168 St 179 St - GW Bus Terminal --END-- Would alleviate local crowding on both the and . Never mind the difficulty in organizing such a line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted August 19, 2011 Share #195 Posted August 19, 2011 Revival of the old IRT double local that ran on Lexington south of 42nd St and Broadway north of it. 8 local train. --START-- Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall Canal St Spring St Bleecker St Astor Pl 14 St - Union Sq 23 St 28 St 33 St 42 St - Grand Central 42 St - Times Square 50 St 59 St - Columbus Circle 66 St 72 St 79 St 86 St 96 St 103 St 110 St 116 St 125 St 137 St 145 St 157 St 168 St 179 St - GW Bus Terminal --END-- Would alleviate local crowding on both the and . Never mind the difficulty in organizing such a line. You would need to somehow dig a new tunnel from the local track of the to connect to the old local track of the original line north/westbound (now Track 4 on the shuttle) and the same southbound from the from 50th to connect to what is Track 1 on the shuttle, plus obviously lengthen the Grand Central and Times Square Stations on what currently is the shuttle. It would be an engineering nightmare to say the least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoking66 Posted August 19, 2011 Share #196 Posted August 19, 2011 Kent Ave to serve all the waterfront development and take some pressure off of Bedford. Too bad the tunnel is at a grade by that point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted August 19, 2011 Share #197 Posted August 19, 2011 You would need to somehow dig a new tunnel from the local track of the to connect to the old local track of the original line north/westbound (now Track 4 on the shuttle) and the same southbound from the from 50th to connect to what is Track 1 on the shuttle, plus obviously lengthen the Grand Central and Times Square Stations on what currently is the shuttle. It would be an engineering nightmare to say the least. Hence, why I said to never mind the difficulty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomerang503 Posted August 19, 2011 Share #198 Posted August 19, 2011 I know it's just a pipe dream, but extend the Archer Avenue Line () to 168th Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subwaykid256 Posted August 23, 2011 Share #199 Posted August 23, 2011 my new stations W Broadway- Laguardia Pl. To take some relief of Broadway-Lafayette & W 4 St Avenue C and 2 Av 7 Av South ( Tillary Street ( Neptune Av Atlantic Av Allerton Av Bronxdale Av-White Plains Rd it would also be cool if someway it was possible to add stops along the Williamsburg and Manhattan Bridges 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoking66 Posted August 24, 2011 Share #200 Posted August 24, 2011 Atlantic Av Atlantic is only three blocks north of Bergen and two south of Hoyt. For IND stations in Downtown Brooklyn, it'd make more sense to work on connecting to BMT or IRT stops. Unfortunately that's virtually impossible and bad design on the part of the IND engineers who were working on eventually recapturing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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