LGA Link N Train Posted January 7, 2018 Share #5876 Posted January 7, 2018 7 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: Fordham Plaza probably makes the most sense. Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 7, 2018 Share #5877 Posted January 7, 2018 We need a Fordham Road Crosstown route ASAP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 7, 2018 Share #5878 Posted January 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Lawrence St said: We need a Fordham Road Crosstown route ASAP. I made that as an LRT route in one of my upcoming maps 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 7, 2018 Share #5879 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) http://app.enmodal.co/?id=92eb61021c1ee24e New map, didn't feel like doing anything Crazy (Fordham) is an LRT just so you know Edited January 7, 2018 by LGA Link N train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted January 7, 2018 Share #5880 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=92eb61021c1ee24e New map, didn't feel like doing anything Crazy (Fordham) is an LRT just so you know My view: Triboro RX to the Bronx seems like overkill, and by there you have reached Amtrak trains on the NEC. A station at 31st (Astoria-Ditmars) is unlikely to happen due interference with the and . Just end it at Northern Blvd. Sending the to Bedford is a waste of money. If you extend the to the Bronx, you can either build under the Major Deegan directly to Fordham to allow for a fast ride to Manhattan, and then have it curve crosstown. Another option would be to extend the under Jerome and then have it curve across Fordham to Co-Op City. This eliminates the need for LRT and allows for a more useful in the Bronx. The can also run to Woodlawn via this new tunnel, replacing the EL and allowing a 4-track underground line ( local and express south of Fordham) , but the MDE option is better imo. I would also extend the to Co-Op City. Edited January 7, 2018 by R68OnBroadway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 7, 2018 Share #5881 Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said: My view: Triboro RX to the Bronx seems like overkill, and by there you have reached Amtrak trains on the NEC. A station at 31st (Astoria-Ditmars) is unlikely to happen due interference with the and . Just end it at Northern Blvd. Didn't feel like changing the plans from RPA so I did it that way also the station at 31st could work but it would have to be done correctly. Or else you screw the whole line up Sending the to Bedford is a waste of money. If you extend the to the Bronx, you can either build under the Major Deegan directly to Fordham to allow for a fast ride to Manhattan, and then have it curve crosstown. Another option would be to extend the under Jerome and then have it curve across Fordham to Co-Op City. This eliminates the need for LRT and allows for a more useful in the Bronx. The can also run to Woodlawn via this new tunnel, replacing the EL and allowing a 4-track underground line ( local and express south of Fordham) , but the MDE option is better imo. I see where you're going with this. Intentionally I was gonna remove the extension to Bedford but I felt too lazy to do so. And while buildinga new underground trunk line would be useful, it's also a waste of money. I would also extend the to Co-Op City. Ok Edited January 7, 2018 by LGA Link N train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted January 8, 2018 Share #5882 Posted January 8, 2018 It's not a waste of money if it is useful. To keep costs low, I would fold 148th into Lenox Yard (the platform could be used for employees), and lengthen 145th to 10 cars (as well as remove that diamond crossover). A new short tunnel to the Bronx will be built, and the line will run to Pelham Pkwy/Stillwell Av via Sedgwick Av, Fordham Road, and Pelham Pkwy. Stops: Yankees-153rd (MNR) Sedgwick/Fordham Grand Concourse (in-system free transfer to , OOS free transfer to ) Southern Blvd Boston/WP Rd Esplanade/Pelham Pkwy () Stillwell Av If you wanted you could add stops on Sedgwick Av, but I would not advise this. You could also have it link to Dyre at Pelham Parkway and have it run to Eastchester, but that makes the line less attractive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannny Posted January 19, 2018 Share #5883 Posted January 19, 2018 Here's a proposal. To alleviate congestion on the and trains in lower Manhattan, what if the were extended to to 9th ave on West End so that the trains waiting to terminate don't have to clog up the line. Some trains can short turn at Whitehall St, and some can run further down West End (probably to Bay Pkwy) during rush hours instead of Sea Beach, to avoid confusion among passengers. It may just seem like a foamers pipe dream, but I think it could help out with congestion. What do you all think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 19, 2018 Share #5884 Posted January 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, Dannny said: Here's a proposal. To alleviate congestion on the and trains in lower Manhattan, what if the were extended to to 9th ave on West End so that the trains waiting to terminate don't have to clog up the line. Some trains can short turn at Whitehall St, and some can run further down West End (probably to Bay Pkwy) during rush hours instead of Sea Beach, to avoid confusion among passengers. It may just seem like a foamers pipe dream, but I think it could help out with congestion. What do you all think? I see where you are going with this, but wasn't this discussed already 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar8983 Posted January 19, 2018 Share #5885 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, LGA Link N train said: I see where you are going with this, but wasn't this discussed already Not to sound like a broken record but I think some version of this will occur (maybe not to the magnitude described here), but when additional rolling stock arrives, they’ll be able to add trains to 96 St (as via Sea Beach) during rush hours and physically add trains to Astoria, but because of the short rush hour time not allowing the to make multiple round trips, they could have the new trains terminate at Canal St and be stored on the lower level of City Hall for the PM rush or send them back to Brooklyn and have the train go back to Astoria in the afternoon. as for the physical capabilities of Whitehall St as a terminal, it was able to handle the at 8 minute headway’s during the Sandy shutdown of the Montague Tunnel (albeit with a bit of delays), so I think having a 10-minute frequency of trains (the current service that gets turned back to Astoria at Whitehall St) is physically possible without the need to send additional trains to Brooklyn, but that need might need to be studied if what I said in the previous paragraph comes to pass. Edited January 19, 2018 by darkstar8983 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 19, 2018 Share #5886 Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Dannny said: Here's a proposal. To alleviate congestion on the and trains in lower Manhattan, what if the were extended to to 9th ave on West End so that the trains waiting to terminate don't have to clog up the line. Some trains can short turn at Whitehall St, and some can run further down West End (probably to Bay Pkwy) during rush hours instead of Sea Beach, to avoid confusion among passengers. It may just seem like a foamers pipe dream, but I think it could help out with congestion. What do you all think? But then you’d be reintroducing the merge between 4th Ave express and local trains at 36th St, because the and would have to merge with each other there. You’d be moving the clog from Whitehall to 36th. And you’d be shortchanging 4th Ave local riders at 45th and 53rd streets, which are busier stations than the local stations above 36th. Also, 8th Ave has nearly twice the ridership of 9th Ave . Why give the much-less busy 9th Ave more service? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted January 19, 2018 Share #5887 Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Dannny said: Here's a proposal. To alleviate congestion on the and trains in lower Manhattan, what if the were extended to to 9th ave on West End so that the trains waiting to terminate don't have to clog up the line. Some trains can short turn at Whitehall St, and some can run further down West End (probably to Bay Pkwy) during rush hours instead of Sea Beach, to avoid confusion among passengers. It may just seem like a foamers pipe dream, but I think it could help out with congestion. What do you all think? If someone brings up the to 9 Av proposal... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelestor Posted January 20, 2018 Share #5888 Posted January 20, 2018 I think more trains could start running into Brooklyn, as more trains get rerouted to SAS and frequency in Astoria increases. Were it not for capacity issues, the should be going to Bay Ridge, but Gravesend is the more likely southern terminal, given that trains originate and end there already during rush hour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 20, 2018 Share #5889 Posted January 20, 2018 Look at this on the board material in public speaking http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/180122_1030_Transit.pdf 2 points from some david dude Complains of and delays construction also says should be short turned at queens plaza And this dude says the and the train should be elimnated (but why tho) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted January 20, 2018 Share #5890 Posted January 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, BreeddekalbL said: Look at this on the board material in public speaking http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/180122_1030_Transit.pdf 2 points from some david dude Complains of and delays construction also says should be short turned at queens plaza And this dude says the and the train should be elimnated (but why tho) To debunk this dude's ideal fantasy of subways: trains cannot terminate at Queens Plaza without severely delaying and service. He probably wants to eliminate those lines because they're both part-time. Don't eliminate the and . It will slow service for people coming from the Rockaways. Also, the will become jammed at the loss of service. Apparently this dude wants to have R32 trains and R62 and trains... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5891 Posted January 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Coney Island Av said: To debunk this dude's ideal fantasy of subways: trains cannot terminate at Queens Plaza without severely delaying and service. He probably wants to eliminate those lines because they're both part-time. Don't eliminate the and . It will slow service for people coming from the Rockaways. Also, the will become jammed at the loss of service. Apparently this dude wants to have R32 trains and R62 and trains... Um........ If you eliminate the , what serves 145 and 148-Lenox? You simply can't eliminate the (3), it is needed; Same with the . Without it, you have the as a local 24/7. As for the , MAYBE you can have it go to Queens Plaza late nights, but if anything, I'd be looking to extend the (and also ) to 179 before I'd be looking at cutting the back to Queens Plaza. Some people just are ill-informed and don't understand WHY some lines need to be there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABOGbrooklyn Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5892 Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 What do you guys think of my subway extension proposal, plenty of extensions in Queens, some in the Bronx and Brooklyn In Queens Extended the to Floral Park, Little Neck Pkwy Extended the to Queens Village, Hempstead Av via Liberty Av/Hollis Av Extended the to Rosedale, Francis Lewis Blvd running on the LIRR right of path Extended the to Cambria Heights via Linden Blvd Extended the to Little Neck via Union Tpke, Utopia Pkwy and 47th Av Extended the to Bayside via Roosevelt Av, and Crocheron Av Created a new (8) line Willets Pt spur to Whitestone/College Point via College Pt Blvd & 20th Av Extended the to Laguardia via Con Ed property Re did the line to Rockaway Park via LIRR Rockaway Branch ROW and connect with QBL at Woodhaven Blvd and connect with 2nd Av line via 63rd tunnel Re did the line as well to JFK airport via LIRR ROW to LIC and connect with 2nd Ave line via new tunnel at 48th St Manhattan/46th Rd Queens Also extend the back to 71st Av Brooklyn Extended the to Sheepshead Bay- Voorhies Av Extended the to Kings Plaza going down Rochester Ave and turning down E New York Av to go back on Utica Av Extended the one stop to Av L Extended the to Queens Extended the via new tunnel below Old Slip in Lower Manhattan and go to Red Hook and extend to Staten Island via new tunnel at 65th Street Extended the to meet with the at Bedford Nostrand Put the brown back on The West End to Bay Pkwy Extended the to Bay Ridge Manhattan New via Second Av Extended the via 125th to Broadway, if possible Bronx line to Throggs Neck Extend the to Fordham Rd vis 3rd Av Extend the to Co-Op City via E Gun Hill Rd Extended the to North Riverdale Staten Island to Mariners Harbor Extended the (SIR) to Mariners Harbor via its old ROW on the North Shore All boroughs the Triboro RX Now called the (X) line will span all boroughs, starting at Staten Island at SI Mall, up Victory Blvd and meet with the and go up 65th St Tunnel then continue through LIRR Bay Ridge Branch ROW until Astoria where it will go up 30th Av and up 9th St to Randalls Island and then proceed below Amtrak ROW meeting with the and then turn on Tremont Av and go up Dykman St in Manhattan to go back up Henry Hudson Pkwy to connect with Western Riverdale to terminate at 261st St. Would appreciate constructive feedback! Thanks! http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 Edited January 21, 2018 by ABOGbrooklyn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelestor Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5893 Posted January 21, 2018 When drawing crayon on a map, it's important to consider capacity so that the new lines you build can run reasonable service while not wrecking service on the other lines. Comments in green. 1 hour ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 What do you guys think of my subway extension proposal, plenty of extensions in Queens, some in the Bronx and Brooklyn In Queens Extended the to Floral Park, Little Neck Pkwy Okay. Extended the to Queens Village, Hempstead Av via Liberty Av/Hollis Av Okay in the long run, but definitely build the first. Extended the to Rosedale, Francis Lewis Blvd running on the LIRR right of path Okay. Extended the to Cambria Heights via Linden Blvd Ambivalent about this one because most riders are going to transfer to the . Extended the to Little Neck via Union Tpke, Utopia Pkwy and 47th Av The intention is okay but the route is circuitous. The needs to run completely under Jewel Ave or Union Turnpike. Extended the to Bayside via Roosevelt Av, and Crocheron Av Okay. Created a new (8) line Willets Pt spur to Whitestone/College Point via College Pt Blvd & 20th Av Not worth diverting capacity from the . Extended the to Laguardia via Con Ed property The extension is not worth building if it doesn't run via Ditmars Blvd. Re did the line to Rockaway Park via LIRR Rockaway Branch ROW and connect with QBL at Woodhaven Blvd and connect with 2nd Av line via 63rd tunnel Against, there is no good way to integrate the Rockaway Branch with the rest of the subway system at the moment. The 2nd Ave - 63 St connection should be reserved for a new service to Eastern Queens. Re did the line as well to JFK airport via LIRR ROW to LIC and connect with 2nd Ave line via new tunnel at 48th St Manhattan/46th Rd Queens Absolutely against, the corridor is not high enough density to build a subway, and SAS has no capacity for another connection. Light rail conversion or reusing the line for a future LIRR - NJT service through Union City are the options here. Also extend the back to 71st Av Against, not enough capacity since everyone in Queens is headed into Manhattan. Brooklyn Extended the to Sheepshead Bay- Voorhies Av Okay, but it might be more cost-effective to end the line at Avenue U. Extended the to Kings Plaza going down Rochester Ave and turning down E New York Av to go back on Utica Av Okay, but some stops such as Beverly Road should be removed. Extended the one stop to Av L Okay. Extended the to Queens See the Queens section. Extended the via new tunnel below Old Slip in Lower Manhattan and go to Red Hook and extend to Staten Island via new tunnel at 65th Street Against, it is more cost-effective to extend the to Hoyt-Schemerhorn. Staten Island doesn't need a subway, maybe an SIR extension into Downtown Brooklyn (and Fulton St) via Red Hook, but the ferry is good enough imo. Extended the to meet with the at Bedford Nostrand Okay. Put the brown back on The West End to Bay Pkwy Against because the is going to be using the remaining capacity of the Montague St tunnel. Extended the to Bay Ridge Okay. Manhattan New via Second Av Talked about this above. Extended the via 125th to Broadway, if possible Okay. Bronx line to Throggs Neck Against, the exists and the as currently proposed cannot exist (see above). Extend the to Fordham Rd vis 3rd Av Okay. Extend the to Co-Op City via E Gun Hill Rd Extend the one stop, then extend the to Co-op City. Extended the to North Riverdale Okay. Staten Island to Mariners Harbor Against, see above. Extended the (SIR) to Mariners Harbor via its old ROW on the North Shore Sure. All boroughs the Triboro RX Now called the (X) line will span all boroughs, starting at Staten Island at SI Mall, up Victory Blvd and meet with the and go up 65th St Tunnel then continue through LIRR Bay Ridge Branch ROW until Astoria where it will go up 30th Av and up 9th St to Randalls Island and then proceed below Amtrak ROW meeting with the and then turn on Tremont Av and go up Dykman St in Manhattan to go back up Henry Hudson Pkwy to connect with Western Riverdale to terminate at 261st St. The Triboro RX should not be built into Staten Island. After crossing the it should run into Manhattan along 86 St, possibly joining up with the at 72 St on the West Side. Would appreciate constructive feedback! Thanks! http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgorithmOfTruth Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5894 Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 What do you guys think of my subway extension proposal, plenty of extensions in Queens, some in the Bronx and Brooklyn In Queens Extended the to Floral Park, Little Neck Pkwy Extended the to Queens Village, Hempstead Av via Liberty Av/Hollis Av Extended the to Rosedale, Francis Lewis Blvd running on the LIRR right of path Extended the to Cambria Heights via Linden Blvd Extended the to Little Neck via Union Tpke, Utopia Pkwy and 47th Av Extended the to Bayside via Roosevelt Av, and Crocheron Av Created a new (8) line Willets Pt spur to Whitestone/College Point via College Pt Blvd & 20th Av Extended the to Laguardia via Con Ed property Re did the line to Rockaway Park via LIRR Rockaway Branch ROW and connect with QBL at Woodhaven Blvd and connect with 2nd Av line via 63rd tunnel Re did the line as well to JFK airport via LIRR ROW to LIC and connect with 2nd Ave line via new tunnel at 48th St Manhattan/46th Rd Queens Also extend the back to 71st Av Brooklyn Extended the to Sheepshead Bay- Voorhies Av Extended the to Kings Plaza going down Rochester Ave and turning down E New York Av to go back on Utica Av Extended the one stop to Av L Extended the to Queens Extended the via new tunnel below Old Slip in Lower Manhattan and go to Red Hook and extend to Staten Island via new tunnel at 65th Street Extended the to meet with the at Bedford Nostrand Put the brown back on The West End to Bay Pkwy Extended the to Bay Ridge Manhattan New via Second Av Extended the via 125th to Broadway, if possible Bronx line to Throggs Neck Extend the to Fordham Rd vis 3rd Av Extend the to Co-Op City via E Gun Hill Rd Extended the to North Riverdale Staten Island to Mariners Harbor Extended the (SIR) to Mariners Harbor via its old ROW on the North Shore All boroughs the Triboro RX Now called the (X) line will span all boroughs, starting at Staten Island at SI Mall, up Victory Blvd and meet with the and go up 65th St Tunnel then continue through LIRR Bay Ridge Branch ROW until Astoria where it will go up 30th Av and up 9th St to Randalls Island and then proceed below Amtrak ROW meeting with the and then turn on Tremont Av and go up Dykman St in Manhattan to go back up Henry Hudson Pkwy to connect with Western Riverdale to terminate at 261st St. Would appreciate constructive feedback! Thanks! http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 Here are my thoughts on a few of your proposed subway extensions: 1.) Having the run to Springfield Boulevard would be a better alternative, since that's where the majority of passengers traveling east on Hillside Avenue are headed. 2.) Extending the along Union Turnpike and Utopia Parkway to terminate at Little Neck Parkway would make an already lengthy trip way too long. Remember, the has the responsibility of being a local service spanning 3 boroughs, so the line is already under a lot of pressure. 3.) Resurrecting the Brown to Bay Parkway would not only frustrate passengers from Middle Village, Glendale, and Ridgewood seeking a one-seat ride to Midtown, Manhattan, but would also be a waste of manpower, as the Brown carried air along the West End Line in Brooklyn, which is why it was truncated numerous times and eventually rerouted to Forest Hills–71st Avenue permanently. 4.) The current terminal at Court Square does a good job at providing passengers north of Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets with connections to the and , which give them access to express and local service along Queens Boulevard. 5.) Your current idea of sending the along 3rd Avenue in The Bronx to Fordham Road sounds promising–abandon the temptation of connecting it to Staten Island. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5895 Posted January 21, 2018 Quote Extended the via new tunnel below Old Slip in Lower Manhattan and go to Red Hook and extend to Staten Island via new tunnel at 65th Street Against, it is more cost-effective to extend the to Hoyt-Schemerhorn. Staten Island doesn't need a subway, maybe an SIR extension into Downtown Brooklyn (and Fulton St) via Red Hook, but the ferry is good enough imo. Right! The if they do build the full route should have a Phase 5 where it continues to Brooklyn via a new Schermerhorn Street tunnel that would stop at what currently is the Transit Museum (Court Street) before continuing to Hoyt-Schermerhorn (coming in on the as-present unused local track/platform there) and continuing as the Fulton Local to Euclid (extended late nights to Lefferts) while the and (the latter extended full-time to Lefferts) become express trains on Fulton. Quote Extended the to Queens Village, Hempstead Av via Liberty Av/Hollis Av Okay in the long run, but definitely build the first. Whatever is done there, I would be looking at having any line going this route end at Belmont Park, especially since by the time such a route is done the new arena for the Islanders should have been completed and long-since opened plus by then Belmont Park could very well have become a Racino. As noted before, I would have such a line go under the racetrack after Belmont Park to a new yard on what currently is the parking lot on backstretch that can double as a barebones station that can be used on Belmont Stakes Day and other days when needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5896 Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) http://app.enmodal.co/?id=b3167f046fbbf360 new map! and are extended to LaGuardia Airport. is currently discontinued at the moment until I can figure something out. extended to 179 St is extended under 125 St SAS train runs local from Jamaica/179 St - Hanover Square runs express to Chambers, then Continues local until Euclid Avenue; it's also extended to Laurelton terminates at WTC. I might switch Northern Terminals with the is extended to Braddock Avenue is extended to 3 Av up until Burke Av with the and Rush Hour trains terminate at Bay Ridge terminates at New Lots with the running down Utica Avenue is extended in two sections; South to 9 Av - 14 St and North to Bell Blvd Note: I don't advocate every extension, I built it just for the fun of it. Edited January 21, 2018 by LGA Link N train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5897 Posted January 21, 2018 14 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 What do you guys think of my subway extension proposal, plenty of extensions in Queens, some in the Bronx and Brooklyn In Queens Extended the to Floral Park, Little Neck Pkwy Extended the to Queens Village, Hempstead Av via Liberty Av/Hollis Av Extended the to Rosedale, Francis Lewis Blvd running on the LIRR right of path Extended the to Cambria Heights via Linden Blvd Extended the to Little Neck via Union Tpke, Utopia Pkwy and 47th Av Extended the to Bayside via Roosevelt Av, and Crocheron Av Created a new (8) line Willets Pt spur to Whitestone/College Point via College Pt Blvd & 20th Av Extended the to Laguardia via Con Ed property Re did the line to Rockaway Park via LIRR Rockaway Branch ROW and connect with QBL at Woodhaven Blvd and connect with 2nd Av line via 63rd tunnel Re did the line as well to JFK airport via LIRR ROW to LIC and connect with 2nd Ave line via new tunnel at 48th St Manhattan/46th Rd Queens Also extend the back to 71st Av Brooklyn Extended the to Sheepshead Bay- Voorhies Av Extended the to Kings Plaza going down Rochester Ave and turning down E New York Av to go back on Utica Av Extended the one stop to Av L Extended the to Queens Extended the via new tunnel below Old Slip in Lower Manhattan and go to Red Hook and extend to Staten Island via new tunnel at 65th Street Extended the to meet with the at Bedford Nostrand Put the brown back on The West End to Bay Pkwy Extended the to Bay Ridge Manhattan New via Second Av Extended the via 125th to Broadway, if possible Bronx line to Throggs Neck Extend the to Fordham Rd vis 3rd Av Extend the to Co-Op City via E Gun Hill Rd Extended the to North Riverdale Staten Island to Mariners Harbor Extended the (SIR) to Mariners Harbor via its old ROW on the North Shore All boroughs the Triboro RX Now called the (X) line will span all boroughs, starting at Staten Island at SI Mall, up Victory Blvd and meet with the and go up 65th St Tunnel then continue through LIRR Bay Ridge Branch ROW until Astoria where it will go up 30th Av and up 9th St to Randalls Island and then proceed below Amtrak ROW meeting with the and then turn on Tremont Av and go up Dykman St in Manhattan to go back up Henry Hudson Pkwy to connect with Western Riverdale to terminate at 261st St. http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 Ok. So most of this plan is misguided, because as far as I can tell, there is no capacity relief for Queens Blvd, the Brooklyn IRT, and the Flushing Line. So most of these pie in the sky extensions will just funnel people onto lines that are already at capacity during rush hour. Most of these extensions you're proposing are way too slow. People will not ride the to Queens or the to Hollis or the to LNP. They'll just swap to an express at the closest possible point, overloading the entire system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted January 21, 2018 Share #5898 Posted January 21, 2018 Replies to all extensions in blue. 14 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 What do you guys think of my subway extension proposal, plenty of extensions in Queens, some in the Bronx and Brooklyn In Queens Extended the to Floral Park, Little Neck Pkwy End the extension at Springfield. Leave tail tracks with provisions to extend the line further east to LNP if ridership ever warranted it. Extended the to Queens Village, Hempstead Av via Liberty Av/Hollis Av End the extension at Hollis. While many say the is too slow, I disagree as it can have an express counterpart (the ), and could be rerouted down Jamaica Av instead of Fulton. Extended the to Rosedale, Francis Lewis Blvd running on the LIRR right of path End it at Springfield. Extended the to Cambria Heights via Linden Blvd Too slow for riders to use, a stupid snail when compared to the . Cut this out. Extend the over there instead. Extended the to Little Neck via Union Tpke, Utopia Pkwy and 47th Av Worthless. Run it up the LIE, Jewel Av, or Union Turnpike. No one will take this foamy roundabout route to get to Manhattan. Extended the to Bayside via Roosevelt Av, and Crocheron Av. Run it on Northern instead. This improves connections with local buses. Created a new (8) line Willets Pt spur to Whitestone/College Point via College Pt Blvd & 20th Av Again, completely worthless. It reduces important TPH on the , which would lead to severe congestion. Extend the over there instead via 10 Av/86 St into Queens via Northern. Extended the to Laguardia via Con Ed property Agree, though you could have a yard on ConEd to swap the and . Re did the line to Rockaway Park via LIRR Rockaway Branch ROW and connect with QBL at Woodhaven Blvd and connect with 2nd Av line via 63rd tunnel Worthless. Uses up TPH through 63rd that could INSTEAD be used for the QBL Bypass. Re did the line as well to JFK airport via LIRR ROW to LIC and connect with 2nd Ave line via new tunnel at 48th St Manhattan/46th Rd Queens SAS won't have enough TPH, and riders wouldn't even justify its existence. Remove. Also extend the back to 71st Av Not enough capacity unless you branched off one of the QBL locals to the RBB or LIE/Jewel/Union Tpke. Brooklyn Extended the to Sheepshead Bay- Voorhies Av Agreed. Extended the to Kings Plaza going down Rochester Ave and turning down E New York Av to go back on Utica Av Send the over there instead of the . And FYI, the Utica Av station is NOT located on the latter street because of space for the extension. The bellmouths are located on UTICA and also only branch off the local tracks instead of express. Extended the one stop to Av L Riders wouldn't justify. The B42 does fine in that area. Remove. Extended the to Queens See above with the and . Extended the via new tunnel below Old Slip in Lower Manhattan and go to Red Hook and extend to Staten Island via new tunnel at 65th Street Completely worthless, and is a much better use of resources to connect SAS to Fulton so the could go express. Extended the to meet with the at Bedford Nostrand Agree Put the brown back on The West End to Bay Pkwy Riders in Ridgewood/Middle Village would throw a fit if you got rid of the 6 Av . Your ridership would drop like a rock, and trains would be running empty along the West End. Extended the to Bay Ridge No yard access unless the yard I listed above was built. Send it to Bay Pkwy. Manhattan New via Second Av See above- not enough capacity. Extended the via 125th to Broadway, if possible Of course it's possible. Agree. Bronx line to Throggs Neck Again, see above with not enough capacity. I would leave provisions after the 161 St station on the 3 Av-SAS Extension for such a route. Extend the to Fordham Rd vis 3rd Av Have it go all the way to Gun Hill Rd to connect with the . Extend the to Co-Op City via E Gun Hill Rd Agree. Extended the to North Riverdale North Riverdale isn't dense enough to warrant that kind of service. Remove. Metro-North does fine and most in Riverdale are rich and drive by car. Staten Island to Mariners Harbor See above about why this is useless. Also, the North Shore Extension is more viable/feasible than this. Extended the (SIR) to Mariners Harbor via its old ROW on the North Shore Agreed. All boroughs the Triboro RX Now called the (X) line will span all boroughs, starting at Staten Island at SI Mall, up Victory Blvd and meet with the and go up 65th St Tunnel Cut it back to St. George. Also, this is too expensive, too overkill, and riders won't warrant YOUR (X). Instead, it should run from 145 St to St. George. then continue through LIRR Bay Ridge Branch ROW until Astoria where it will go up 30th Av and up 9th St to Randalls Island and then proceed below Amtrak ROW meeting with the and then turn on Tremont Av and go up Dykman St in Manhattan to go back up Henry Hudson Pkwy to connect with Western Riverdale to terminate at 261st St. Would appreciate constructive feedback! Overall, this map is WAY TOO FOAMY, albeit most extensions unnecessary. You need to start thinking realistically when constructing these maps. Thanks! http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=b3167f046fbbf360 new map! and are extended to LaGuardia Airport. is currently discontinued at the moment until I can figure something out. You don't need to have both. Send the to QBL via 63rd if you plan to send the to LGA. This will prevent any merging between Broadway expresses and locals, plus it allows the to be kept. extended to 179 St People will bail at Parsons, Union Tpke, and 71 Av for the express . Leave it at 71 Av, or divert down RBB if ridership really warranted it. is extended under 125 St Agree. SAS train runs local from Jamaica/179 St - Hanover Square Worthless when a better use of funds would be to send it via the QBL Bypass. runs express to Chambers, then Continues local until Euclid Avenue; it's also extended to Laurelton Necessitates a merge with the and is worthless. Leave it at WTC, but I do agree with the Laurelton Extension. terminates at WTC. I might switch Northern Terminals with the Leave the alone. Extend it to Cambria Heights. is extended to Braddock Avenue Agree. is extended to 3 Av up until Burke Av with the and The and should be extended to Gun Hill because of the multiple bus transfers. Rush Hour trains terminate at Bay Ridge Only issue is line length, otherwise I partially agree. terminates at New Lots with the running down Utica Avenue I agree with most of this EXCEPT, extend the (4) to Spring Creek. is extended in two sections; South to 9 Av - 14 St and North to Bell Blvd I agree with the Bayside extension, but not the 14 St one. Extend the (L) up 10 Av instead. Note: I don't advocate every extension, I built it just for the fun of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 22, 2018 Share #5899 Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Coney Island Av said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=b3167f046fbbf360 new map! and are extended to LaGuardia Airport. is currently discontinued at the moment until I can figure something out. You don't need to have both. Send the to QBL via 63rd if you plan to send the to LGA. This will prevent any merging between Broadway expresses and locals, plus it allows the to be kept. I have one local and one express going to LGA because, if this was actually built, someone would complain about not having Express service, as for the I could connect it to the BYpass using the 11 St Connection then have it turn on Yellowstone Blvd/Jewel Ave extended to 179 St People will bail at Parsons, Union Tpke, and 71 Av for the express . Leave it at 71 Av, or divert down RBB if ridership really warranted it. And Forest Hills is an inefficient Terminal. Also, would they bail if there's no express train? I didn't feel like building RBB is extended under 125 St Agree. I don't advocate this but someone I know told me about the importance of this extension SAS train runs local from Jamaica/179 St - Hanover Square Worthless when a better use of funds would be to send it via the QBL Bypass. I'm not worried about the bypass, Sunnyside-Woodside needs to be reorganized in order to make room runs express to Chambers, then Continues local until Euclid Avenue; it's also extended to Laurelton Necessitates a merge with the and is worthless. Leave it at WTC, but I do agree with the Laurelton Extension. Well, I could extend the down to Euclid then extend the to Lefferts terminates at WTC. I might switch Northern Terminals with the Leave the alone. Extend it to Cambria Heights. Nah. A Cambria Heights Extension is too fictional, I'll terminate it at Bedford Park. is extended to Braddock Avenue Agree. No doubt. is extended to 3 Av up until Burke Av with the and The and should be extended to Gun Hill because of the multiple bus transfers. Alright Rush Hour trains terminate at Bay Ridge Only issue is line length, otherwise I partially agree. It's only a Rush Hour Extension terminates at New Lots with the running down Utica Avenue I agree with most of this EXCEPT, extend the to Spring Creek. ............ maybe is extended in two sections; South to 9 Av - 14 St and North to Bell Blvd I agree with the Bayside extension, but not the 14 St one. Extend the up 10 Av instead. Agreed, but I feel like the extension is more realistic (despite not advocating for this either) Note: I don't advocate every extension, I built it just for the fun of it. Replies in Red 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted January 22, 2018 Share #5900 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) On 1/21/2018 at 1:57 AM, ABOGbrooklyn said: http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 What do you guys think of my subway extension proposal, plenty of extensions in Queens, some in the Bronx and Brooklyn In Queens Extended the to Floral Park, Little Neck Pkwy Extended the to Queens Village, Hempstead Av via Liberty Av/Hollis Av Extended the to Rosedale, Francis Lewis Blvd running on the LIRR right of path Extended the to Cambria Heights via Linden Blvd Extended the to Little Neck via Union Tpke, Utopia Pkwy and 47th Av Extended the to Bayside via Roosevelt Av, and Crocheron Av Created a new (8) line Willets Pt spur to Whitestone/College Point via College Pt Blvd & 20th Av Extended the to Laguardia via Con Ed property Re did the line to Rockaway Park via LIRR Rockaway Branch ROW and connect with QBL at Woodhaven Blvd and connect with 2nd Av line via 63rd tunnel Re did the line as well to JFK airport via LIRR ROW to LIC and connect with 2nd Ave line via new tunnel at 48th St Manhattan/46th Rd Queens Also extend the back to 71st Av Brooklyn Extended the to Sheepshead Bay- Voorhies Av Extended the to Kings Plaza going down Rochester Ave and turning down E New York Av to go back on Utica Av Extended the one stop to Av L Extended the to Queens Extended the via new tunnel below Old Slip in Lower Manhattan and go to Red Hook and extend to Staten Island via new tunnel at 65th Street Extended the to meet with the at Bedford Nostrand Put the brown back on The West End to Bay Pkwy Extended the to Bay Ridge Manhattan New via Second Av Extended the via 125th to Broadway, if possible Bronx line to Throggs Neck Extend the to Fordham Rd vis 3rd Av Extend the to Co-Op City via E Gun Hill Rd Extended the to North Riverdale Staten Island to Mariners Harbor Extended the (SIR) to Mariners Harbor via its old ROW on the North Shore All boroughs the Triboro RX Now called the (X) line will span all boroughs, starting at Staten Island at SI Mall, up Victory Blvd and meet with the and go up 65th St Tunnel then continue through LIRR Bay Ridge Branch ROW until Astoria where it will go up 30th Av and up 9th St to Randalls Island and then proceed below Amtrak ROW meeting with the and then turn on Tremont Av and go up Dykman St in Manhattan to go back up Henry Hudson Pkwy to connect with Western Riverdale to terminate at 261st St. Would appreciate constructive feedback! Thanks! http://app.enmodal.co/?id=823ff4edc3411984 I like the (8) extensions (though the doesn’t need to go all the way to Floral Park and Northern Blvd would be a much easier and more convenient place to put the versus narrow Crocheron Ave). God knows Queens needed all of these decades ago! Also like the to Fordham Road and the to Co-op City. God knows the Bronx needs way better crosstown service than the Bx12 on Fordham and the Bx28/30/38 on Gun Hill Road. But why is there no longer any train service on the Manhattan Bridge? Do you think it can’t be counted on to carry trains in the future? And why put the back on Nassau St and the West End Line? And why bring back the and the to Forest Hills? Edited January 22, 2018 by T to Dyre Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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