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Just don't do it. Make a good project, and make it super cheap. Also an (L) crew would find your route a nightmare. They might have to do a 6 hour work shift. They won't really get paid much for it.

 

oh god you are right; I will redo this but this time have a shuttle going across the bronx and back and then the (12) starting at Harlem Water Drive Thingy (kind of forgot first stop in manhattan name). That will cut out alot of stations.:tup:

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the (13) was planned for a skip-stop service with the (3) in brooklyn.

 

another fantasy route:

From: Bellerose-241 Street, Queens

To: City Hall

bullet: (H)

 

Red for Express Stop, Green for local Stop.

01) 241 Street-Braddock Avenue

02) 86 Avenue-Cross Island Expy

03) 83 Avenue

04) Union Turnpike

05) Alley Pond Park-Douglaston Pkway

06) West Alley Road

07) 229 Street-Horace Harding Expy

turns onto Horace Harding Expressway, Via HHE.

08) Springfeild Blvd

09) Bell Blvd

10) 210 Street

11) Clearveiw Expressway

12) Underhill Avenue

13) 188 Street

14) Utopia Parkway

15) 170 Street

16) 164 Street

17) Parsons Blvd

18) 153 Street

19) 146 Street

20) 138 Street

21) Van Wyck Expressway

22) Flushing Meadow Park

23) Xenia Street

24) 99 Street

25) Junction Blvd(Q72) to LGA

26) Queens Blvd

turns onto Queens Blvd

27) 57 Avenue

runs left side along IND Queens blvd line

28) Grand Avenue-Newtown(M)(R)

29) Ireland Street

30) 73 Street

31) 69 Street

32) 61 Street

33) 57 Street

34) Greenpoint/Roosevelt Avenue(7) 46 Street

35) 38 Street

36) Van Dam Street

37) Queens Plaza(E)(M)(R)

38) Queensboro Plaza(7)<7>(N)(Q)

39) 13 Street

40) Vernon Blvd

41) Roosevelt Island

42) 1 Avenue(12)

43) 2 Avenue-55 Street(T)

44) Lexington Avenue-53 Street(6)(E)(M)

connects with (E)

45) 5 Avenue-53 Street

46) 7 Avenue-53 Street(:((D)

47) 50 Street-9 Avenue

48) 43 Street-10 Avenue

49) 36 Street-11 Avenue

50) 29 Street-11 Avenue

51) 23 Street-11 Avenue

52) 14 Street-10 Avenue

53) Jane Street-West Street

54) West 11 Street

55) Barrow Street

56) West Houston Street

57) Canal Street

58) Canal Street-Varick Street

59) Church Street-Worth Street

60) City Hall(Lower Level Platform)

 

at least its less stops than the (12). :tup:

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I decided to take things in a different direction. Instead of making some impossible or unheard of new line (no offense guys), I'm thinking of a skip-stop on the (L). It can be called the K. No extra trains will be needed since the extra trains the (L) uses will be sufficient enough. Here are the station layouts...

 

(L) stations

8 av

6 av

Union Sq

3 av

1 av

Bedford av

Lorimer st

Graham av

Montrose av

Morgan av

Dekalb av

Myrtle-Wyckoff

Wilson Av

Broadway Jct

Atlantic av

Livonia av

East 105 st

 

K stations

8 av

6 av

Union Sq

3 av

1 av

Bedford av

Lorimer st

Grand st

Montrose av

Jefferson st

Myrtle-Wyckoff

Halsey St

Bushwick-Aberdeen

Broadway Jct

Sutter av

New Lots av

Canarsie

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That is a good idea. If you looked at my posts on the last page you would find out that a gray (K) was proposed to skip stop along with the (L). If this happens the (L), and the (K) can be extended up Tenth Avenue to better serve the West Side, and be extended along the Bay Ridge Branch to create a much needed crosstown Brooklyn line on designated subway tracks on a line capable of carrying 6 tracks with only 2 surviving tracks today.

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With my plan, you don't need no extensions, no need to lay new track, just turn every other (L) onto a K during rush hours, nothing gained, nor lost

 

You can't get no cheaper than that lol

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Still too long. Train crews would spend 5 hours operating this train line. The (MTA) still won't go for it.

 

Im thinking of another one, but this time starting in Queens, Thru Manhattan, Then Bronx.

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Why don't just have a crosstown line extension, but not with the (G). Instead create a new subway service using Cemetery Way in Queens, link it to the crosstown line, and run it down till it reaches the vincinity of 23rd Street in Manhattan, have it run in a tunnel across the river, and then send it up Third Avenue to go up to the Bronx.

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That is a good idea. If you looked at my posts on the last page you would find out that a gray (K) was proposed to skip stop along with the (L). If this happens the (L), and the (K) can be extended up Tenth Avenue to better serve the West Side, and be extended along the Bay Ridge Branch to create a much needed crosstown Brooklyn line on designated subway tracks on a line capable of carrying 6 tracks with only 2 surviving tracks today.

 

We Need a Grey K Bullet! Mods?... I requested the (S6) and like it alot.:tup:

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The (S)-6th Avenue was only a temporarily service to serve the Sixth Avenue Line when the 63rd Street Connector was under construction. There is no need for a (S)-6th Avenue. Plus the gray (K) is a real proposal which everyone believes should be implemented. It's to skip stop with the (L). The (J), and the (Z) has a similar service, and it works.

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The (S6) Avenue was only a temporarily service to serve the Sixth Avenue Line when the 63rd Street Connector was under construction. There is no need for a (S6) Avenue. Plus the gray (K) is a real proposal which everyone believes should be implemented. It's to skip stop with the (L). The (J), and the (Z) has a similar service, and it works.

 

I know. btw there is an (S6) bullet so there is no need to post (S)-6 Avenue.:tup:

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okay heres another subway route that has stops that are not too close together & has an express service as well. Runs from 32 Avenue-Clearveiw Expressway, Queens - to - Washington Heights-168 Street, Manhattan. The Line is underground in places where theres not alot of traffic and around LGA Airport In Queens and is elevated otherwise (except for 167 Street tunnel between Odgen Avenue & Harlem River Drive). Bullet: Indigo (W)

 

once again, Express stops in Red & Local In green.

 

01) Clearveiw Expressway Via 32 Avenue

02) Francis Lewis Blvd

03) 164-163 Streets

04) 154 Street

05) 149 Street

06) Parsons Blvd

07) 137 Street

08) College Point Blvd

09) Willets Point Blvd-34 Avenue

10) Shea Road-Northern Blvd

11) 114 Street-Astoria Blvd

Some Trains Split Off And Terminate @ LGA Apt

*******************************LGA Route****************************

##) 27 Avenue

##) Us Airways Term-Ditmars Blvd

##) Terminal A

##) Terminal B

##) Terminal C

##) LGA Airport-Central Term

##) 94 Street

##) Overlook Park

Loops Back To Central Term, Makes very sharp curve stop after that Terminal A.

**************************Back To Main Route**************************

12) 102-103 Streets Runs Via Astoria Blvd

13) 94 Street

14) 87-88 Streets

15) 82 Street

16) Grand Central Parkway

17) Hazen Street Now Runs Via Ditmars Blvd

18) Steinway Street

19) 31 Street Walk to (N)(W)

20) 21 Street Via Hell Gate Bridge

21) Wards Island Park

22) NYC Dep of Fire Training Building (I thought it would be a great idea so when people leave the place they can just take the subway to go to the bronx or go to queens and get on the (N)(Q) @ Astoria/Ditmars Blvd).

23) Randall's Island Golf Center

24) East 132 Street <Bronx>

25) Bruckner Blvd-E 135 Street

26) East 138 Street Via Bruckner Blvd

27) East 142 Street

28) East 149 Street

29) Leggett Avenue-Bruckner Blvd turns onto Leggett Avenue

30) Leggett Avenue-Barry Street

31) Randall Avenue-Tiffany Street

32) Randall Avenue-Faile Street Turns onto Hunters Point Avenue

33) Lafayette Avenue

34) E 163 Street-Bruckner Blvd Hunts Pt Ave (6)

35) Simpson Street-Westchester Avenue (2)(5) Simpson Street

36) Home Street-E 169 Street

37) Boston Road Via E 169 Street

38) 3 Avenue

39) Webster Avenue

40) Morris Avenue

41) 167 Street-Grand Concourse 167 Street (:)(D)

42) 167 Street-River Avenue 167 Street (4)

43) Ogden Avenue

44) Harlem River Drive

45) Amsterdam Avenue

46) Washington Heights-168 Street (A)(C)(1)(9)TERMINAL

 

Its only 46 stops, (I think) how many the (2) has. There is a spur track that connects to the (A) and goes to 207 Street yard where the line gets its trains from. There is another spur track that runs connecting up the (C) @ 168 Street. Im someday planning to make a BVE route out of my fictional routes.

 

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That is possible, and could be operated in within three hours. The only problem is the free track on the Hell Gate Bridge is just one alone. Every other one is used by railroads. So your (W) would be bi directional on the Bridge.

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That is possible, and could be operated in within three hours. The only problem is the free track on the Hell Gate Bridge is just one alone. Every other one is used by railroads. So your (W) would be bi directional on the Bridge.

 

Yes, so Im thinking of just putting a tunnel there (I cant edit the post (?)).

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This is based on my work route. It is essentially the route from my house to work, lol!!! The bullet would be orange instead of blue. Mix of 75% R160's and 25% R46's. Announcement voiced by Dianne Thompson and Catherine Cowdery. : p

 

Overheard sign in Manhattan:

(H) To Boro Park-18th Av via 6 Av

and Culver Local all times.

 

Overhead sign in Brooklyn:

(H) To Union Sq-17th St/Broadway

via Culver Local and 6 Av all times.

 

Stops:

Boro Park-18th Av / McDonald Av

Ditmas Av / McDonald Av

Church Av / McDonald Av -

Ft. Hamilton Parkway / Ocean Parkway

15th St-Prospect Park / Prospect Pk W

7th Av / 9th St

4th Av-9th St - (D)(N)(R)

Smith-9th Sts

Carroll St / Smith St (G)

Bergen St / Smith St

Jay St-MetroTech / Fulton Mall - (A)(C)(R)

York St / Jay St

East Broadway / Rutgers St

Delancey St-Essex St - (J)(M)(Z)

2 Av / Houston St

Broadway-Lafayette St / Houston St - (:)(D) Downtown (6)

W 4th St / 6 Av - (A)(C)(E)

14th St / 6 Av - (1)(2)(3)(L)

5th Av / 16th St

Union Square-17th St/Broadway - (4)(5)(6)(L)(N)(Q)(R)

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Not a Create Your Own Subway Route, but an extension idea of mine. (F) extended from Jamaica-179th Street to Hollis-188th Street.

 

The station would extend from 188th Street to 190th Street on Hillside Avenue with access at 188th and 190th giving Hollis her very first-ever subway station.

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I've got some more ideas

 

*Finish the Archer Avenue Subway

*Create a LaGuardia Airport (S) that would run from Astoria-Ditmars Boulevard to Mets-Willets Point.

*Extend the (2), and (5) from Flatbush Avenue to Brighton Beach which was originally intended.

*Create the Utica Avenue Subway, and extend it onto the current Rockaway Park (S) ROW.

*Off topic, but I would create a First Avenue Light Rail that would run from Moshulu Parkway (4) to 4th Avenue-9th Street (R), (F).

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(V) 71 Avenue to Lefferts Boulevard

 

Via Queens Blvd Local

Via 6 Avenue Local

Via Fulton Express

 

Late Nights, Lefferts Shuttle.

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My fantasy line will bring back the number (9). Here's the stops:

 

72nd Street - 1st Avenue

79th Street - 1st Avenue

86th Street - 2nd Avenue (Transfer for the (T)(Q))

86th Street - Lexington Avenue (Transfer for the (4)(5)(6))

86th Street - 5th Avenue

86th Street - Central Park West (Transfer for the (:o©)

79th Street - Amsterdam Avenue

72nd Street - Broadway (Transfer for the (1)(2)(3)

Times Square

Penn Station

14th Street (Transfer for the (F)(L)(M))

Chambers Street

Rector Street

Bowling Green (Transfer for the (4)(5))

Wall Street

Fulton Street (Transfer for the (2)(3)(4)(5)(A)(C)(J)(Z))

Brooklyn Bridge (Transfer for the (4)(5)(6)(J)(Z))

 

Map:

subwayroutefantasy9.png

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I actually have this idea I didn't mention yet. Why don't we just extend the (6) to Secaucus instead. It goes through the same places as the (7) does, and would do the same job as the (7). The only difference is you could send the (7) farther into Eastern Queens (Bayside) which isn't served, but if they ever do that then the (7) would be too long, but you can't extend the (6) anywhere. It's also a local like the (7), and thus it would be possible to send the (6) from Brooklyn Bridge to Secaucus via Hoboken. Or you could make the (5) local, and make the <6> an (8), and it can run as the Lexington Avenue Express alongside the (6) which is still local, but it's the best option besides the (7).

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I actually have this idea I didn't mention yet. Why don't we just extend the (6) to Secaucus instead. It goes through the same places as the (7) does, and would do the same job as the (7). The only difference is you could send the (7) farther into Eastern Queens (Bayside) which isn't served, but if they ever do that then the (7) would be too long, but you can't extend the (6) anywhere. It's also a local like the (7), and thus it would be possible to send the (6) from Brooklyn Bridge to Secaucus via Hoboken. Or you could make the (5) local, and make the <6> an (8), and it can run as the Lexington Avenue Express alongside the (6) which is still local, but it's the best option besides the (7).

 

Among other things, the (7) will (once the current west side extension is finished) have a terminal very close to the Hudson, making it easy to extend under the river. The (6) terminates far from the Hudson and would require massive construction in a very densely built area just to reach the Hudson. Extending the (6) would easily cost five times as much as extending the (7).

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