TheNewYorkElevated Posted June 16, 2016 Share #1 Posted June 16, 2016 Just today, the has announced that it is extending the train to Whitehall Street-South Ferry during late nights. The goal is to improve connections between Lower Manhattan and southwest Brooklyn. Read more: http://www.mta.info/news-r-r-train-r-shuttle-subway-new-york-city-transit/2016/06/16/change-allows-more-transfers-faster This is an interesting proposal. Let's see how far this goes. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfanrod Posted June 16, 2016 Share #2 Posted June 16, 2016 FInally glad that its happening now can change at Barclays for other trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted June 16, 2016 Share #3 Posted June 16, 2016 When will it take in effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 16, 2016 Share #4 Posted June 16, 2016 Awesome. Wonder if the would have late night service affected, but hopefully not. The needed this extension. It was really odd to see the have express service in the northbound direction late nights only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 16, 2016 Share #5 Posted June 16, 2016 This is interesting. It is great to see more service during late nights. I wonder what type of thing like this would be next? I wonder if this will be in place in November when the Fall pick starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NY1635 Posted June 16, 2016 Share #6 Posted June 16, 2016 Is it possible to run the to Forest Hills once maintenance and upgrades are completed on the Queens Blvd Lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 16, 2016 Share #7 Posted June 16, 2016 What I want to know is what will the frequencies be? The extension is great, but they need to be increased to something more reasonable. The waits late nights for an train is just ridiculous. They need to bump up frequencies in general. You can have three or four trains for every train at 59th street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 16, 2016 Share #8 Posted June 16, 2016 Long overdue and badly needed. Having the run to Whitehall late nights will surely help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfanrod Posted June 17, 2016 Share #9 Posted June 17, 2016 yes it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 17, 2016 Share #10 Posted June 17, 2016 ABOUT DAMN TIME! as for some of your questions, I just had a twitter convo with Benjamin Kabak: Is it changing at the same time the W is reintroduced? More or less, yes. I've been told "fall." No set date yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted June 17, 2016 Share #11 Posted June 17, 2016 This is good news. What next, the shuttle gets extended late nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted June 17, 2016 Share #12 Posted June 17, 2016 What I want to know is what will the frequencies be? The extension is great, but they need to be increased to something more reasonable. The waits late nights for an train is just ridiculous. They need to bump up frequencies in general. You can have three or four trains for every train at 59th street. The standard frequency for overnight service is 3 trains per hour (20 minute headways) I wonder if they'll make the run express along 4th Avenue overnights. The local stations from 36th to Pacific would actually see rush hour levels of frequency during the overnight period if it runs local (they'd be seeing 3 TPH each from the , , and ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 17, 2016 Share #13 Posted June 17, 2016 This is good news. What next, the shuttle gets extended late nights Having the perhaps run express between Dyre and Grand Central would be a good idea, or perhaps have the replace the as the second Lexington Avenue Local late nights and run with the during those hours to Brooklyn Bridge (obviously in that scenario the would run express as it does the rest of the time). I wonder if they'll make the run express along 4th Avenue overnights. The local stations from 36th to Pacific would actually see rush hour levels of frequency during the overnight period if it runs local (they'd be seeing 3 TPH each from the , , and ) I suspect that would be the case because the only stretch where it would be 9 TPH overnights would be between DeKalb and 36th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted June 17, 2016 Share #14 Posted June 17, 2016 The standard frequency for overnight service is 3 trains per hour (20 minute headways) I wonder if they'll make the run express along 4th Avenue overnights. The local stations from 36th to Pacific would actually see rush hour levels of frequency during the overnight period if it runs local (they'd be seeing 3 TPH each from the , , and ) They should make the express, not the so they don't have to use that awkward switch at Atlantic (the can use the bypass from the Manhattan Bridge) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted June 17, 2016 Share #15 Posted June 17, 2016 They should make the express, not the so they don't have to use that awkward switch at Atlantic (the can use the bypass from the Manhattan Bridge)Now that I noticed extra trains on 4th Av, I have to agree with you. The only reason the ran local in Brooklyn is because of the ending at 36 St. Otherwise probably would have been express since it started west end service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RestrictOnTheHanger Posted June 17, 2016 Share #16 Posted June 17, 2016 Would this impact the when it returns? During the 10 or 11pm hour, wouldnt the and shuttle both be using Whitehall as a terminal for a short period? I agree though this is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iGeMiNix Posted June 17, 2016 Share #17 Posted June 17, 2016 Would this impact the when it returns? During the 10 or 11pm hour, wouldnt the and shuttle both be using Whitehall as a terminal for a short period? I agree though this is a good idea. I would think the shuttle would probably start a little bit later so it doesn't conflict with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted June 17, 2016 Share #18 Posted June 17, 2016 I would definitely have the go express on 4 Av. The would be express in 2 boroughs overnight. That would be a first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted June 17, 2016 Share #19 Posted June 17, 2016 They should make the express, not the so they don't have to use that awkward switch at Atlantic (the can use the bypass from the Manhattan Bridge) The running express eliminates 6 Avenue service at DeKalb Avenue. But given that the MTA doesn’t bother to fill in this deficiency when the doesn’t run on weekends, I doubt it’s much of a problem. The , being a local at night should do what it does best and stay a local throughout for the sake of consistency. I won’t have to decide between a Manhattan express/Brooklyn local and Manhattan local/Brooklyn express when I get out during times like 11:15 PM (which is a good time to go home after a night out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted June 17, 2016 Share #20 Posted June 17, 2016 This is good news. What next, the shuttle gets extended late nights Thats not a bad idea either...I think the 5 should go to bowling green Late nights...That will Eliminate 2 tranfers just to reach lex ave...And provide express service along lex ave....Just my opinion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 17, 2016 Share #21 Posted June 17, 2016 Thats not a bad idea either...I think the 5 should go to bowling green Late nights...That will Eliminate 2 tranfers just to reach lex ave...And provide express service along lex ave....Just my opinion.... Agreed. The other thing is that the runs so infrequently when it does run on weekends. Every 20 minutes is a joke. This is good news. What next, the shuttle gets extended late nights It should be, but I doubt it will happen. Those folks up there in the Bronx put up with some of the abysmal service. --- What I also think needs to be stressed about the is that it needs to be timed to meet with the and or the if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 17, 2016 Share #22 Posted June 17, 2016 Agreed. The other thing is that the runs so infrequently when it does run on weekends. Every 20 minutes is a joke. It should be, but I doubt it will happen. Those folks up there in the Bronx put up with some of the abysmal service. --- What I also think needs to be stressed about the is that it needs to be timed to meet with the and or the if possible. Every 20 minutes is a lot better than in most places, which don't have late night service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bstar1 Posted June 17, 2016 Share #23 Posted June 17, 2016 would become a Super Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted June 17, 2016 Share #24 Posted June 17, 2016 would become a Super Express. or rather just an Express. I guess you can say that compared to the slow route of the during late nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted June 17, 2016 Share #25 Posted June 17, 2016 Every 20 minutes is a lot better than in most places, which don't have late night service. It may sound great, but the problem with the is those trains don't really adhere to their so-called schedules, so you often wait much longer than 20 minutes. Anything that the can do to decrease the wait times would be welcomed, particularly for Bay Ridge residents and those commuting to Staten Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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