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Train Operator, Exam No. 7604

List Status:  This list has been established as of September 9, 2018

Pay: Starts at $34.16 and increases to $39.81

Highest List Number Called: For initial Pre-Employment: (Last Reported 3800's) - For Medical: (Last Reported 3800's)

Training: Monday thru Friday, across three 8-hour tours (AMs, PMs, overnights), unless otherwise specified

Next Training Class: 

Resources:

(Updated January 20 ,2022)

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59 minutes ago, DrummaConducta said:

Went yesterday for PE. Also 14xx for train operator. Arrived at 7am, had 75 people in front of me and another 150+ showed up after me. Didnt get out until 7:30pm. When they said its an all day process, they really mean it!

Yeah..those line queues are no joke.
I showed up at 6 am for all 3 of my PE's, latest I got out was 2pm.

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44 minutes ago, Jay-Oh said:

Yeah..those line queues are no joke.
I showed up at 6 am for all 3 of my PE's, latest I got out was 2pm.

I don’t understand how you guys leave so late. I got there at 7am for my first PE in June for the conductor position and left around 11 and I went in for the TO PE last week and left at like 11:15

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4 minutes ago, Emart said:

I don’t understand how you guys leave so late. I got there at 7am for my first PE in June for the conductor position and left around 11 and I went in for the TO PE last week and left at like 11:15

It depends on how much the lab is backed up. Current Mta employees take precedence over pre employments. The first time I went I didn’t get out until 5pm, last time I went I got out at 11:30am. 

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23 hours ago, Jay-Oh said:

Keep in mind that the provisional list was called up to 630's. So it's not a surprise if they jumped up to 630.

Now they are truly calling every single number on the list past 630, because nobody up to this number has had the chance to defer, whereas when started calling from the beginning of the permanent list, only a small number of people deferred between 1 - 630.

So they might be into the 800s-1000s soon? Just curious. Hope they don't suddenly start slowing down or even freeze hiring after jan. But who knows with ta?

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13 minutes ago, MarkGuy said:

So they might be into the 800s-1000s soon? Just curious. Hope they don't suddenly start slowing down or even freeze hiring after jan. But who knows with ta?

I agree. 16xx. P/E Friday. Hope to maybe be in by late winter/early spring

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4 hours ago, DrummaConducta said:

Went yesterday for PE. Also 14xx for train operator. Arrived at 7am, had 75 people in front of me and another 150+ showed up after me. Didnt get out until 7:30pm. When they said its an all day process, they really mean it!

I got here around 6:30 this morning. About 25 people in front of me. I think lab got backed up cause it was about a 2 hour wait actually sitting inside the laboratory. Finished drug test at 1. There's still a LOT of people waiting. 

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17 minutes ago, ListNumber14xx said:

I got here around 6:30 this morning. About 25 people in front of me. I think lab got backed up cause it was about a 2 hour wait actually sitting inside the laboratory. Finished drug test at 1. There's still a LOT of people waiting. 

I guess I’m going to try and just get there at around 5:30 am lol. 

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3 minutes ago, Jay-Oh said:

Best if you pre-load anything you want to watch lol. 

Yea definitely.. I was actually getting pretty good service tho so I was good. Next time I do a pe (hopefully I don't do a 3rd) I'm gonna bring a board game or some dice to kill the silence in there lol. 

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4 minutes ago, kev2112 said:

just a question to all the guys on their 2nd and 3rd P/Es. Do you have to do more than one because a drug test is only good for 90 days?  And is there any correspondence from the MTA between P/E letters? Going for my first this Friday. Thanks alot. 

That’s exactly why I had to do 3 PE’s, only good for 90 days. 

List 66*. First PE May 31, 2nd PE Early September, 3rd PE Nov 7th. 

Medical Tomorrow 

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4 minutes ago, kev2112 said:

just a question to all the guys on their 2nd and 3rd P/Es. Do you have to do more than one because a drug test is only good for 90 days?  And is there any correspondence from the MTA between P/E letters? Going for my first this Friday. Thanks alot. 

I went in for my 3rd PE Sept. 7th.. I thought that they said the DT was good for 90 days as well, but when I spoke to one of the ladies in the lab in Sept., she said that the DT is only good for 30 days. I got my email for Medical yesterday, to come in tomorrow. List# 69#. 

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1 minute ago, AveJoe said:

I went in for my 3rd PE Sept. 7th.. I thought that they said the DT was good for 90 days as well, but when I spoke to one of the ladies in the lab in Sept., she said that the DT is only good for 30 days. I got my email for Medical yesterday, to come in tomorrow. List# 69#. 

Correction, my 3rd PE was Nov. 7th.

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1 hour ago, kev2112 said:

Thanks to all of you for your insight

I had my 1st PE on 11/19, I was 2nd in line, I showed up at 6:00 Am. The doors opened around 7:00am-7:10 am, I signed in at the front security desk then took the elevator to the 5th floor where I was met by the female security officer who was very informative. I was asked for my driver's license and was given a number to be on the lookout. I was told to check-in with the pre-employment counter and was given the brown homework envelope. After waiting for about 1.5 hours, a lady who is in charge of setting up the classes gave her brief on the job description was she answered a few questions that were very helpful. Another employee called about 15 candidates to verify documents. Since I'm a veteran claiming veteran's points, I was given other documents to fill out and had to wait an hour for my military records to be verified. After my documents were finally reviewed, I had to wait for another hour or so because the lab was maxed-out. I went to grab something for lunch and went back to 180, finally, I was given the OK to proceed to the lab and waited for about 45 minutes to give a specimen. I left at 3:30 pm. I hope this helps.

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Can someone in the November class verify how many people are in that class. Just want to know if they are scheduling more than 40 people per class or is it exactly 40 people. Last forum they hired 10 - 20 more instead of the 40 they stated. Best of luck for those in class and to those scheduled for the December class. 

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1 hour ago, Nexdup said:

Can someone in the November class verify how many people are in that class. Just want to know if they are scheduling more than 40 people per class or is it exactly 40 people. Last forum they hired 10 - 20 more instead of the 40 they stated. Best of luck for those in class and to those scheduled for the December class. 

I think it is 66.. we picked divisions today. 20 people to A the rest to B

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On 11/25/2018 at 7:01 PM, Frazzles said:

Great blog, read every post from page 1, this is my first post.

List # - low 3xx

Received first PE letter mid-May but deferred.

Received second PE letter end of October to report 11/2 for the 11/26 class.

Completed PE and received email a few days later for the medical on 11/9.

Reported for the medical and was put on medical hold - very disappointing.

Came back on 11/16 with copies of required medical tests and a letter from my doctor and was removed from medical hold.

Was hired for the 12/17 class as the 11/26 class had filled up.

A couple of observations for those folks who will eventually go through this hiring process:

1.  The 5th floor at 180 Livingston appears very chaotic - there are dozens of people there for a variety of reasons. But there is method to the madness.  It works but requires a lot of patience on our part.  I got in at 7:00 the first day and got out around 5:30.

2.  The process is incredibly paper intensive - a complete lack of automation except for a couple of computerized medical questionnaires.  You're writing a lot of the same info over and over repeatedly.  Its just the way it is.  

3.  Don't wait for your PE letter (like I did) to get your required documents in order.  Have your drivers license, social security card, high school diploma or transcript, and birth certificate or passport ready to go.  Make sure nothing is expired and don't bring copies because they won't accept them.

4.  If you do go on medical hold, try and get it resolved quickly.  I was told to return as soon as possible because they will not hold your place in the class, just like they didn't hold mine.

One last thing, for what its worth - I was told by an HR person on the 5th floor that they call 200 people to fill 40 spots in a Train Operator class.  This is probably because, as mentioned by others, people reject the offer, can't get the required documents straightened out, fail the drug test or can't pass the medical.  For those of you with higher list numbers, my feeling is you will eventually be called probably sooner than you think, as long as the TA has need and budget.

5. if you know you have a medical condition, get it checked out by your primary care physician or a specialist and have an official medical letter ready to go when you are invited for the medical. If you're not sure if you have anything, be proactive about your health and get your annual checkup done right when you get your PE inv letter. This will save you the headache from being put on hold, you'll thank me later.

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3 hours ago, Productions27 said:

I had my 1st PE on 11/19, I was 2nd in line, I showed up at 6:00 Am. The doors opened around 7:00am-7:10 am, I signed in at the front security desk then took the elevator to the 5th floor where I was met by the female security officer who was very informative. I was asked for my driver's license and was given a number to be on the lookout. I was told to check-in with the pre-employment counter and was given the brown homework envelope. After waiting for about 1.5 hours, a lady who is in charge of setting up the classes gave her brief on the job description was she answered a few questions that were very helpful. Another employee called about 15 candidates to verify documents. Since I'm a veteran claiming veteran's points, I was given other documents to fill out and had to wait an hour for my military records to be verified. After my documents were finally reviewed, I had to wait for another hour or so because the lab was maxed-out. I went to grab something for lunch and went back to 180, finally, I was given the OK to proceed to the lab and waited for about 45 minutes to give a specimen. I left at 3:30 pm. I hope this helps.

Many many thanks and best of luck to you 

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