Exam 7604 T/O #7604 Hiring Process

[Schecter]

14 minutes ago, MarkGuy said:

In the B div you will encounter virtually almost no red circle k's on the road save for the relays at 179st lower level. Those dont need permission

 Dont know abt the a.

Yeah I'm in the A have no idea about the B lol only circle K I've seen is in the yard at 148 lenox.

[MarkGuy]

9 hours ago, beanz said:

Just a friendly piece of advice to all you guys starting up soon.

When I was road posting this time last year, I had a trainer tell me about the importance of focus. He told me a story about fighting with his girlfriend on his way to work. She dropped him off at flatbush right before his first trip and said to him "that's why I f**ked your best friend!".

 

This was back in the day so no cellphone, no way to confirm with his friend or nothing like that. He had to get on his train and go and handle it after work. He could not get he words out of his mind however, and on his first trip, before even getting to franklin ave, he hit a signal.

 

He told me the story and I laughed and forgot about it at the time. Went out on the road on my own February of last year. Everything was gravy, no issues all of February. Then March hit and corona came through and made an impact on my family. Lots of people got sick and even lost my great grandma and a few others.

 

Me being overweight, I was also super anxious and worried about catching it myself. You have to remember that MTA workers were dropping left and right at the start of this. I believe the number was 135+. So needless to say my wife was worried for me and I was worried as well.

 

My daughter also got diagnosed with autism earlier last year which was also tough, but she is doing better now with her therapies even though remote learning is difficult for her.

 

So I went to work with all this shit in my head and in April, after taking time off to self quarantine, I had my first incident. Small overrun in the rain, no biggie, but my conductor was a stickler and even though we were barely off the board and there was no one in the first car on a rainy Sunday evening, he made me call it in. So I did, it was my first, no biggie. Wrote a g2 and didn't even get taken out of service.

 

A week later my grandmother had a heart attack. A week after that it was mother's day and right before my last trip back up to Van Cortland we video chatted for mother's day and I saw my mom, aunts and grandma for the first time since Christmas. 

Well on that last trip to VC, 6 stops from signing out, I had a massive brain fart and took a few cars out of the station on an overrun. Turns out I didn't knock power all the way off and even though I took a full service at stockman, the train was still in full power(can't downshift but u will learn about that later). 

 

Out of service and retrained and embarrassed at my shitty incident.

 

They happened because I did not take heed to my trainers advice which was keep a clear mind. Never ever bring your personal life to work with you. You have to be 100 percent focused at all times. You can't daydream and think about bills or girlfriends or family or your kids while operating.

 

Operating a train offers a unique challenge. It isn't difficult once you get used to it. You start to feel yourself and get cocky. You start to think to yourself 'i got this' and get confident.

 

That is where the doom is waiting for you! U have to stay just as scared as u were day one because the moment u get confident, that's when the challenge kicks in. Staying focused.

 

Because u become so adept at operating and confident in your operation, it starts to become muscle memory after a while. It's monotonous so this is unavoidable. So your brain, seeing that it's barely being used, it takes a break. "Ok, looks like u got this under control without me. I'm gonna go think about all your problems now. Lemme know if u need me".

 

Now u in the danger zone.

 

When I came back after my second incident, I was good for almost 3 months. Summer was here, covid numbers were down, I was making money, my family had mostly recovered, I didn't get sick, my daughter was thriving with her therapists.

 

Life was good.

 

I was 3 weeks from finishing probation and said to my wife "let's go buy an apartment and move out". We found a place we loved, made an offer, didn't sign our lease at our apartment because we were moving, and gave a 25k deposit on a co-op apartment in Riverdale, just north of Van Cortland terminal. So close I could walk on a nice day, or take the 9 bus for 3 stops. 

 

Then, the one incident I will always regret happened. I was on the 3 out of lenox. Dispatcher told me to deadhead to new lots and pick up my train over there so my conductor and I head down. It's pouring raining that day but I got a 2 tripper that was just cut down to 1.5 trips so I'm happy.

 

Get to new lots and my train back north comes out the yard. I get on, do my tests, and we are off.

 

First station, Van Siclen. Brakes felt longgg. That means they don't react as soon as u are used to them reacting. I stop on the market but it was scary for a second there. Still, I'm a professional now, so I adjust. 

 

I know my brakes are long so I just brake a lot sooner. I am fine all the way uptown, even put the punch box at 135 perfectly on my window. No issues. 

 

Coming into the terminal though, my adjustment didn't matter. I adjusted for high speeds, but in the terminal u gotta clear timers and keep your speed at around 5 mph. I take a tiny brake well before the stop marker but I feel the train stop way short, so I release all the brake and let the train keep coasting. I pull the brake again and nothing.

 

Nothing...

 

Full service(full brake) and the train, very slowly, not even at 1mph I would say, glides right into the stop arm at the end of the terminal. It didn't hit it hard at all, but just barely kissed the stop arm just enough that the train could not charge at the other end and I had to report it.

 

Gets charged as a collision because in essence that's what it is.( These terms will make sense to u as you go on in Schoolcar so come back to this post later for the technicals.)

 

Nobody believed that the train had long brakes because I didn't call it in. No investigation on the train nothing, but I swear on everything I hold dear that the train just didn't stop. I definitely did what I should and it just didn't stop. My error was not calling in the train for having long brakes, but as I said, I adjusted and made it to the end just fine.

 

So at that point I get extended with a final warning. If you are an anxious person who over thinks like me, you do not want to be at final warning.

 

Needless to say I screwed up once more, a station overrun again. From the moment I went back out on my final warning until my final incident, I was operating scared and nervous. At that point, I was facing homelessness because I had the deposit in escrow and we hadn't closed on the apartment yet, my old apartment lease was about to expire, and I knew I could lose my job at any second. 

 

I had just booked a vacation and that night of my final mistake was the day before my short much needed vacation. I almost made it lol. That night I was particularly anxious over some news I got about my mother's health that turned out to be nothing. To give u an idea of how nervous I had been, I was a social drinker up to that point and during that time I made sure to have jameson's at home waiting for me every night after work to unwind.

 

So I am no longer a train operator. I was told I could get back on the list and start over again which I am in the process of trying to do, but it's been a bunch of hoops so far. So I'm still not on the list.

 

I wrote a lot of words because before I started I came here a lot for information, and this forum helped me out tremendously in knowing what to expect. I am returning that favor by giving you guys information that you may find invaluable. 

 

In short, focus and keep your private life and issues at home. 2020 was the most mentally challenging year of my life and it also happened to be probationary year of the best job I ever had, and I failed the challenge miserably.

 

All of my issues are not excuses, I am not the only person with problems. I should have risen to the challenge and done better. You don't want to be where I am, so that's why I felt like sharing.

 

Good luck to all of you and maybe I will be back someday and see ya down the road. 

Damn man. Sorry to hear. Ur not the only one who had issues on probation. I def did too. I hope you can get back someday.

[MarkGuy]

16 hours ago, beanz said:

Just a friendly piece of advice to all you guys starting up soon.

When I was road posting this time last year, I had a trainer tell me about the importance of focus. He told me a story about fighting with his girlfriend on his way to work. She dropped him off at flatbush right before his first trip and said to him "that's why I f**ked your best friend!".

 

This was back in the day so no cellphone, no way to confirm with his friend or nothing like that. He had to get on his train and go and handle it after work. He could not get he words out of his mind however, and on his first trip, before even getting to franklin ave, he hit a signal.

 

He told me the story and I laughed and forgot about it at the time. Went out on the road on my own February of last year. Everything was gravy, no issues all of February. Then March hit and corona came through and made an impact on my family. Lots of people got sick and even lost my great grandma and a few others.

 

Me being overweight, I was also super anxious and worried about catching it myself. You have to remember that MTA workers were dropping left and right at the start of this. I believe the number was 135+. So needless to say my wife was worried for me and I was worried as well.

 

My daughter also got diagnosed with autism earlier last year which was also tough, but she is doing better now with her therapies even though remote learning is difficult for her.

 

So I went to work with all this shit in my head and in April, after taking time off to self quarantine, I had my first incident. Small overrun in the rain, no biggie, but my conductor was a stickler and even though we were barely off the board and there was no one in the first car on a rainy Sunday evening, he made me call it in. So I did, it was my first, no biggie. Wrote a g2 and didn't even get taken out of service.

 

A week later my grandmother had a heart attack. A week after that it was mother's day and right before my last trip back up to Van Cortland we video chatted for mother's day and I saw my mom, aunts and grandma for the first time since Christmas. 

Well on that last trip to VC, 6 stops from signing out, I had a massive brain fart and took a few cars out of the station on an overrun. Turns out I didn't knock power all the way off and even though I took a full service at stockman, the train was still in full power(can't downshift but u will learn about that later). 

 

Out of service and retrained and embarrassed at my shitty incident.

 

They happened because I did not take heed to my trainers advice which was keep a clear mind. Never ever bring your personal life to work with you. You have to be 100 percent focused at all times. You can't daydream and think about bills or girlfriends or family or your kids while operating.

 

Operating a train offers a unique challenge. It isn't difficult once you get used to it. You start to feel yourself and get cocky. You start to think to yourself 'i got this' and get confident.

 

That is where the doom is waiting for you! U have to stay just as scared as u were day one because the moment u get confident, that's when the challenge kicks in. Staying focused.

 

Because u become so adept at operating and confident in your operation, it starts to become muscle memory after a while. It's monotonous so this is unavoidable. So your brain, seeing that it's barely being used, it takes a break. "Ok, looks like u got this under control without me. I'm gonna go think about all your problems now. Lemme know if u need me".

 

Now u in the danger zone.

 

When I came back after my second incident, I was good for almost 3 months. Summer was here, covid numbers were down, I was making money, my family had mostly recovered, I didn't get sick, my daughter was thriving with her therapists.

 

Life was good.

 

I was 3 weeks from finishing probation and said to my wife "let's go buy an apartment and move out". We found a place we loved, made an offer, didn't sign our lease at our apartment because we were moving, and gave a 25k deposit on a co-op apartment in Riverdale, just north of Van Cortland terminal. So close I could walk on a nice day, or take the 9 bus for 3 stops. 

 

Then, the one incident I will always regret happened. I was on the 3 out of lenox. Dispatcher told me to deadhead to new lots and pick up my train over there so my conductor and I head down. It's pouring raining that day but I got a 2 tripper that was just cut down to 1.5 trips so I'm happy.

 

Get to new lots and my train back north comes out the yard. I get on, do my tests, and we are off.

 

First station, Van Siclen. Brakes felt longgg. That means they don't react as soon as u are used to them reacting. I stop on the market but it was scary for a second there. Still, I'm a professional now, so I adjust. 

 

I know my brakes are long so I just brake a lot sooner. I am fine all the way uptown, even put the punch box at 135 perfectly on my window. No issues. 

 

Coming into the terminal though, my adjustment didn't matter. I adjusted for high speeds, but in the terminal u gotta clear timers and keep your speed at around 5 mph. I take a tiny brake well before the stop marker but I feel the train stop way short, so I release all the brake and let the train keep coasting. I pull the brake again and nothing.

 

Nothing...

 

Full service(full brake) and the train, very slowly, not even at 1mph I would say, glides right into the stop arm at the end of the terminal. It didn't hit it hard at all, but just barely kissed the stop arm just enough that the train could not charge at the other end and I had to report it.

 

Gets charged as a collision because in essence that's what it is.( These terms will make sense to u as you go on in Schoolcar so come back to this post later for the technicals.)

 

Nobody believed that the train had long brakes because I didn't call it in. No investigation on the train nothing, but I swear on everything I hold dear that the train just didn't stop. I definitely did what I should and it just didn't stop. My error was not calling in the train for having long brakes, but as I said, I adjusted and made it to the end just fine.

 

So at that point I get extended with a final warning. If you are an anxious person who over thinks like me, you do not want to be at final warning.

 

Needless to say I screwed up once more, a station overrun again. From the moment I went back out on my final warning until my final incident, I was operating scared and nervous. At that point, I was facing homelessness because I had the deposit in escrow and we hadn't closed on the apartment yet, my old apartment lease was about to expire, and I knew I could lose my job at any second. 

 

I had just booked a vacation and that night of my final mistake was the day before my short much needed vacation. I almost made it lol. That night I was particularly anxious over some news I got about my mother's health that turned out to be nothing. To give u an idea of how nervous I had been, I was a social drinker up to that point and during that time I made sure to have jameson's at home waiting for me every night after work to unwind.

 

So I am no longer a train operator. I was told I could get back on the list and start over again which I am in the process of trying to do, but it's been a bunch of hoops so far. So I'm still not on the list.

 

I wrote a lot of words because before I started I came here a lot for information, and this forum helped me out tremendously in knowing what to expect. I am returning that favor by giving you guys information that you may find invaluable. 

 

In short, focus and keep your private life and issues at home. 2020 was the most mentally challenging year of my life and it also happened to be probationary year of the best job I ever had, and I failed the challenge miserably.

 

All of my issues are not excuses, I am not the only person with problems. I should have risen to the challenge and done better. You don't want to be where I am, so that's why I felt like sharing.

 

Good luck to all of you and maybe I will be back someday and see ya down the road. 

Wait the incident where your partner made u call it in...did u put any panels out The station?

[beanz]

9 minutes ago, MarkGuy said:

Wait the incident where your partner made u call it in...did u put any panels out The station?

Half the first panel was just past the red door at the end of the station. We just left woodlawn and it happened at mosholu. I wasn't going particularly fast because it was raining but I should have been slower. Damn train just skidded almost the whole way. Train was empty since we just left the terminal and it was a rainy n cold Sunday so I tried to see if my partner would just be cool but he was adamant about me calling it in so I did. I'm not mad at him though cause idk his situation. He may have been on probation or final warning himself for all I know, I never saw him again after that day cause I got switched to the PMs not long after that.

[MarkGuy]

1 hour ago, beanz said:

Half the first panel was just past the red door at the end of the station. We just left woodlawn and it happened at mosholu. I wasn't going particularly fast because it was raining but I should have been slower. Damn train just skidded almost the whole way. Train was empty since we just left the terminal and it was a rainy n cold Sunday so I tried to see if my partner would just be cool but he was adamant about me calling it in so I did. I'm not mad at him though cause idk his situation. He may have been on probation or final warning himself for all I know, I never saw him again after that day cause I got switched to the PMs not long after that.

Ok bc if he was off his board but all your doors were platformed, you shouldn't have banged that in. Had that instance happened--tell him to pull that ebv, key off and see the train himself. 

 

[beanz]

3 minutes ago, MarkGuy said:

Ok bc if he was off his board but all your doors were platformed, you shouldn't have banged that in. Had that instance happened--tell him to pull that ebv, key off and see the train himself. 

 

At that point I had 2 months and a half out on my own and I didn't wanna make a big stink about it so I just said eff it let me not argue. My first car was literally empty and as per rcc I keyed open the first 5 cars and they were all empty. Calling it in was unnecessary but like I said I can't be mad at the guy. 

[Scott Wilson]

17 hours ago, beanz said:

Just a friendly piece of advice to all you guys starting up soon.

When I was road posting this time last year, I had a trainer tell me about the importance of focus. He told me a story about fighting with his girlfriend on his way to work. She dropped him off at flatbush right before his first trip and said to him "that's why I f**ked your best friend!".

 

This was back in the day so no cellphone, no way to confirm with his friend or nothing like that. He had to get on his train and go and handle it after work. He could not get he words out of his mind however, and on his first trip, before even getting to franklin ave, he hit a signal.

 

He told me the story and I laughed and forgot about it at the time. Went out on the road on my own February of last year. Everything was gravy, no issues all of February. Then March hit and corona came through and made an impact on my family. Lots of people got sick and even lost my great grandma and a few others.

 

Me being overweight, I was also super anxious and worried about catching it myself. You have to remember that MTA workers were dropping left and right at the start of this. I believe the number was 135+. So needless to say my wife was worried for me and I was worried as well.

 

My daughter also got diagnosed with autism earlier last year which was also tough, but she is doing better now with her therapies even though remote learning is difficult for her.

 

So I went to work with all this shit in my head and in April, after taking time off to self quarantine, I had my first incident. Small overrun in the rain, no biggie, but my conductor was a stickler and even though we were barely off the board and there was no one in the first car on a rainy Sunday evening, he made me call it in. So I did, it was my first, no biggie. Wrote a g2 and didn't even get taken out of service.

 

A week later my grandmother had a heart attack. A week after that it was mother's day and right before my last trip back up to Van Cortland we video chatted for mother's day and I saw my mom, aunts and grandma for the first time since Christmas. 

Well on that last trip to VC, 6 stops from signing out, I had a massive brain fart and took a few cars out of the station on an overrun. Turns out I didn't knock power all the way off and even though I took a full service at stockman, the train was still in full power(can't downshift but u will learn about that later). 

 

Out of service and retrained and embarrassed at my shitty incident.

 

They happened because I did not take heed to my trainers advice which was keep a clear mind. Never ever bring your personal life to work with you. You have to be 100 percent focused at all times. You can't daydream and think about bills or girlfriends or family or your kids while operating.

 

Operating a train offers a unique challenge. It isn't difficult once you get used to it. You start to feel yourself and get cocky. You start to think to yourself 'i got this' and get confident.

 

That is where the doom is waiting for you! U have to stay just as scared as u were day one because the moment u get confident, that's when the challenge kicks in. Staying focused.

 

Because u become so adept at operating and confident in your operation, it starts to become muscle memory after a while. It's monotonous so this is unavoidable. So your brain, seeing that it's barely being used, it takes a break. "Ok, looks like u got this under control without me. I'm gonna go think about all your problems now. Lemme know if u need me".

 

Now u in the danger zone.

 

When I came back after my second incident, I was good for almost 3 months. Summer was here, covid numbers were down, I was making money, my family had mostly recovered, I didn't get sick, my daughter was thriving with her therapists.

 

Life was good.

 

I was 3 weeks from finishing probation and said to my wife "let's go buy an apartment and move out". We found a place we loved, made an offer, didn't sign our lease at our apartment because we were moving, and gave a 25k deposit on a co-op apartment in Riverdale, just north of Van Cortland terminal. So close I could walk on a nice day, or take the 9 bus for 3 stops. 

 

Then, the one incident I will always regret happened. I was on the 3 out of lenox. Dispatcher told me to deadhead to new lots and pick up my train over there so my conductor and I head down. It's pouring raining that day but I got a 2 tripper that was just cut down to 1.5 trips so I'm happy.

 

Get to new lots and my train back north comes out the yard. I get on, do my tests, and we are off.

 

First station, Van Siclen. Brakes felt longgg. That means they don't react as soon as u are used to them reacting. I stop on the market but it was scary for a second there. Still, I'm a professional now, so I adjust. 

 

I know my brakes are long so I just brake a lot sooner. I am fine all the way uptown, even put the punch box at 135 perfectly on my window. No issues. 

 

Coming into the terminal though, my adjustment didn't matter. I adjusted for high speeds, but in the terminal u gotta clear timers and keep your speed at around 5 mph. I take a tiny brake well before the stop marker but I feel the train stop way short, so I release all the brake and let the train keep coasting. I pull the brake again and nothing.

 

Nothing...

 

Full service(full brake) and the train, very slowly, not even at 1mph I would say, glides right into the stop arm at the end of the terminal. It didn't hit it hard at all, but just barely kissed the stop arm just enough that the train could not charge at the other end and I had to report it.

 

Gets charged as a collision because in essence that's what it is.( These terms will make sense to u as you go on in Schoolcar so come back to this post later for the technicals.)

 

Nobody believed that the train had long brakes because I didn't call it in. No investigation on the train nothing, but I swear on everything I hold dear that the train just didn't stop. I definitely did what I should and it just didn't stop. My error was not calling in the train for having long brakes, but as I said, I adjusted and made it to the end just fine.

 

So at that point I get extended with a final warning. If you are an anxious person who over thinks like me, you do not want to be at final warning.

 

Needless to say I screwed up once more, a station overrun again. From the moment I went back out on my final warning until my final incident, I was operating scared and nervous. At that point, I was facing homelessness because I had the deposit in escrow and we hadn't closed on the apartment yet, my old apartment lease was about to expire, and I knew I could lose my job at any second. 

 

I had just booked a vacation and that night of my final mistake was the day before my short much needed vacation. I almost made it lol. That night I was particularly anxious over some news I got about my mother's health that turned out to be nothing. To give u an idea of how nervous I had been, I was a social drinker up to that point and during that time I made sure to have jameson's at home waiting for me every night after work to unwind.

 

So I am no longer a train operator. I was told I could get back on the list and start over again which I am in the process of trying to do, but it's been a bunch of hoops so far. So I'm still not on the list.

 

I wrote a lot of words because before I started I came here a lot for information, and this forum helped me out tremendously in knowing what to expect. I am returning that favor by giving you guys information that you may find invaluable. 

 

In short, focus and keep your private life and issues at home. 2020 was the most mentally challenging year of my life and it also happened to be probationary year of the best job I ever had, and I failed the challenge miserably.

 

All of my issues are not excuses, I am not the only person with problems. I should have risen to the challenge and done better. You don't want to be where I am, so that's why I felt like sharing.

 

Good luck to all of you and maybe I will be back someday and see ya down the road. 

I am very sorry to hear about what happened to you, and I applaud your courage in sharing your experience.  If you don't mind me asking, what hoops have you encountered in trying to get your name back on the list?

[Schecter]

Off topic from the discussion but got an email to come in this Thursday at for the last part of the hiring process 

[beanz]

Just now, Schecter said:

Off topic from the discussion but got an email to come in this Thursday at for the last part of the hiring process 

Congrats and sorry, I should have started my own thread instead of hijacking this one. 

[beanz]

9 minutes ago, Scott Wilson said:

I am very sorry to hear about what happened to you, and I applaud your courage in sharing your experience.  If you don't mind me asking, what hoops have you encountered in trying to get your name back on the list?

My request was denied but nobody at transit can tell me who denied it or why. Operations Training assured me again that if they see a request for me, I will be restored, but for some reason DCAS is saying my request was denied. Im gonna go down to DCAS if they are open today.

[STtoMTA]

3 minutes ago, Schecter said:

Off topic from the discussion but got an email to come in this Thursday at for the last part of the hiring process 

Schecter! Well done!  Get as much info as you can please!   Also what was the time frame from canvas email to this part like how long has it been from the initial canvass email

[Schecter]

10 minutes ago, STtoMTA said:

Schecter! Well done!  Get as much info as you can please!   Also what was the time frame from canvas email to this part like how long has it been from the initial canvass email

14 days from the time they sent me the first email aka the canvass until this one, now the time frame from the drug test to now was 12 days.

[Schecter]

14 minutes ago, beanz said:

Congrats and sorry, I should have started my own thread instead of hijacking this one. 

Bro don't ever be sorry at all, share as much as you like that's what we are here for. You didn't hijack anything we're all brothers and sisters over here to each other no matter what! 

[STtoMTA]

13 minutes ago, beanz said:

My request was denied but nobody at transit can tell me who denied it or why. Operations Training assured me again that if they see a request for me, I will be restored, but for some reason DCAS is saying my request was denied. Im gonna go down to DCAS if they are open today.

Does this mean you get automatically re instated or placed where on the list?

[STtoMTA]

2 minutes ago, Schecter said:

14 days from the time they sent me the first email aka the canvass until this one, now the time frame from the drug test to now was 12 days.

Thank you, just so we’re all getting an idea here.  I second your comment of all being brothers and sisters whether we’re there yet or not.  The stories make it REAL for Those that really want this job so it’s nice to have people put in 

[beanz]

Means back to the bottom of the pile so I lose seniority too. Sucks because some of my induction class have been able to get decent bids and everything this time around and I missed out on that. But I don't care as long as I can come back even if I'm on midnights in the B division next time (I live in the bronx so God I hope not).

[STtoMTA]

8 minutes ago, beanz said:

Means back to the bottom of the pile so I lose seniority too. Sucks because some of my induction class have been able to get decent bids and everything this time around and I missed out on that. But I don't care as long as I can come back even if I'm on midnights in the B division next time (I live in the bronx so God I hope not).

You said you were on a two tripper on the three I have to imagine you’d be doing pretty good.  Was that at night?

 

also. Bottom of the CURRENT mta seniority or below all of us on this exam list?

[Schecter]

5 minutes ago, beanz said:

Means back to the bottom of the pile so I lose seniority too. Sucks because some of my induction class have been able to get decent bids and everything this time around and I missed out on that. But I don't care as long as I can come back even if I'm on midnights in the B division next time (I live in the bronx so God I hope not).

You better come back! In the end of the day we're humans, not robots. The MTA wants us to operate like we don't have a brain that has emotions, feelings and etc. Firing someone for a mistakes isn't right, now I can see if you were high or drunk(when I mean you I don't mean actually you just in general), but if you make a mistake it happens nobody is born knowing how to operate a train from day 1, just like when we all learned how to drive or ride a bicycle for the first time we fell and fell and fell until one day we learned how to perfect it. The union should have our back as soon as we're sworn in and help us because they take union dues from day 1 but they always mention that there's not much they can do if we're on probation. Idk I feel like we all should learn from trial and error not oh if you hit a signal too bad you weren't paying attention, acting like we're operating with our eyes closed or something. Or like you didn't see that signal flash on you etc etc.... rant over for now lol 😆

[beanz]

8 minutes ago, STtoMTA said:

You said you were on a two tripper on the three I have to imagine you’d be doing pretty good.  Was that at night?

 

also. Bottom of the CURRENT mta seniority or below all of us on this exam list?

I was still extra extra but I happened to pick up that job that day. The 3 is usually 2 trips on the weekdays if I remember correctly with some waa for a putin or a layup. I believe I just had the 2 trips and now that I think about it maybe a shuttle at the end. It was a PM job.

 

And I still keep my list number 9xx so once I'm reactivated I should be called back pretty quickly, but I will have the same seniority as whatever classmates I have which from looking at the thread sounds like u guys are in the 1300s for the most part. But like I said, I don't care I will take it. This job is amazing and it may be monotonous and can get boring but I learned to appreciate it more and love it once I lost it. 

[beanz]

18 minutes ago, Schecter said:

You better come back! In the end of the day we're humans, not robots. The MTA wants us to operate like we don't have a brain that has emotions, feelings and etc. Firing someone for a mistakes isn't right, now I can see if you were high or drunk(when I mean you I don't mean actually you just in general), but if you make a mistake it happens nobody is born knowing how to operate a train from day 1, just like when we all learned how to drive or ride a bicycle for the first time we fell and fell and fell until one day we learned how to perfect it. The union should have our back as soon as we're sworn in and help us because they take union dues from day 1 but they always mention that there's not much they can do if we're on probation. Idk I feel like we all should learn from trial and error not oh if you hit a signal too bad you weren't paying attention, acting like we're operating with our eyes closed or something. Or like you didn't see that signal flash on you etc etc.... rant over for now lol 😆

Man idk if one of u guys in here works in HR on the low or if the universe just decided to shine down on me cause of u guys good will, but i literally just got an email telling me the denial has been reversed and that I will be restored to the list soon.

 

So I can redeem myself and hopefully be classmates with some of u. :Carlton dance:

Edited January 26, 2021 by beanz

[Schecter]

2 minutes ago, beanz said:

Man idk if one of u guys in here works in HR on the low or if the universe just decided to shine down on me cause of u guys good will, but u literally just got an email telling me the denial has been reversed and that I will be restored to the list soon.

 

So I can redeem myself and hopefully be classmates with some of u. :Carlton dance:

HR on the low imagine someone here is 👀 hearing all of our frustration. And you better bring yourself back here and join tier 6 with the rest of us!!

[beanz]

3 minutes ago, Schecter said:

HR on the low imagine someone here is 👀 hearing all of our frustration. And you better bring yourself back here and join tier 6 with the rest of us!!

LOL I didn't even think about the retirement tiers til u just brought it up. Tier 6 is bad but what I heard they got in mind for tier 7 is frightening.

 

Yea man I'm very happy u have no idea. Might still be a little while but just knowing I'll be back is an awesome feeling.

[STtoMTA]

9 minutes ago, beanz said:

LOL I didn't even think about the retirement tiers til u just brought it up. Tier 6 is bad but what I heard they got in mind for tier 7 is frightening.

 

Yea man I'm very happy u have no idea. Might still be a little while but just knowing I'll be back is an awesome feeling.

No because if they’re calling people in the 13xx range you’re gonna be in now

[Schecter]

11 minutes ago, beanz said:

LOL I didn't even think about the retirement tiers til u just brought it up. Tier 6 is bad but what I heard they got in mind for tier 7 is frightening.

 

Yea man I'm very happy u have no idea. Might still be a little while but just knowing I'll be back is an awesome feeling.

I was in tears when I was thrown into tier 6 thanks cuomo for screwing us dirty 😞

[beanz]

11 minutes ago, STtoMTA said:

No because if they’re calling people in the 13xx range you’re gonna be in now

Well I was put on medical hold last time for sleep apnea and since I lost my health insurance I won't be able to preemptively go to a doc to sort that out before I get called. That's the only reason I say a little while before I start. Would love to start next month so I'm gonna start getting my stuff together but if they hold me back for that it could be a little wait.