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Renderings reveal ‘reimagined’ NYC subway cars, stations

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The (MTA) unveiled on Monday what it’s calling an “ambitious plan” to add more than 1,000 more subway cars and renovate 31 stations as it tries to improve service amid increasing ridership. Gov. Andrew Cuomo revealed the “reimagined” subway cars at the Transit Museum in Brooklyn, detailing the state-of-the-art design of 1,025 new trains. Their features will include wider doors, and 750 will have “Open Car End” designed-cars, which will reduce wait times and increase capacity. The governor’s announcement also highlighted the (MTA)’s efforts to bring its stations into the 21st century, and previewed extensive renovations at 31 stations from across the five boroughs. “New York deserves a world-class transportation network, worthy of its role as the heartbeat of the 21st century economy,” Cuomo said.

 

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More bells and whistles as opposed to focusing on actual needs such as improving service reliability.  Replacing paper maps with digital displays eats up more electricity in the long run.  Redesigning a simple entrance to what they have in mind amounts to reinventing the wheel.  Why don't the feds just hurry up and indict this fool already?

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Besides countdown clocks, the only other thing I want is a super low-tech compass painted on the floor when you get out of an exit so I know exactly which direction to go

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Besides countdown clocks, the only other thing I want is a super low-tech compass painted on the floor when you get out of an exit so I know exactly which direction to go

 

 

This!!!

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One of my coworkers yesterday looked at the pictures and notices that even in the great futuristic picture, on the train status page, half of the lines are delayed or undergoing maintenance. Some things never change...

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One of my coworkers yesterday looked at the pictures and notices that even in the great futuristic picture, on the train status page, half of the lines are delayed or undergoing maintenance. Some things never change...

LMAO!! What's funny is that even on the news this morning (Good Day NY), they mention the idea that the whole point of spending billions of dollars is to make our waits for delayed trains more tolerable. That's really what this is all about.  Do they really think that people won't realize how much longer their commutes are because they have a USB port to charge their phone or wireless internet?  I mean seriously.  It's putting lipstick on a pig.

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Well, to be fair, while the money could go in better places, the system is behind on station design.

Compared to the systems like the Underground or Tokyo Metro, we're really behind. Most stations look like they are stuck in the 80s.

 

And if New York is the worlds model city, it needs to have a model transit system.

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Well, to be fair, while the money could go in better places, the system is behind on station design.

Compared to the systems like the Underground or Tokyo Metro, we're really behind. Most stations look like they are stuck in the 80s.

 

And if New York is the worlds model city, it needs to have a model transit system.

 

See the post that I made on this. The new design is, literally, from the 1980s. In some cases, older. 

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HOLY SHT! These are ALL idea I’ve already stated years ago. Digital maps INSIDE the train cars? Digital FIND displays? About time someone else higher up is thinking of these things too. Large full-color display for the front and back bullets are a no-brainer.

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HOLY SHT! These are ALL idea I’ve already stated years ago. Digital maps INSIDE the train cars? Digital FIND displays? About time someone else higher up is thinking of these things too. Large full-color display for the front and back bullets are a no-brainer.

 

Maybe they were reading your posts?

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It's like the that one night in Vegas involving a 32, 46 and a 160

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See the post that I made on this. The new design is, literally, from the 1980s. In some cases, older. 

 

To be fair, mid-century design principles for interior design are back in vogue again.

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LMAO!! What's funny is that even on the news this morning (Good Day NY), they mention the idea that the whole point of spending billions of dollars is to make our waits for delayed trains more tolerable. That's really what this is all about.  Do they really think that people won't realize how much longer their commutes are because they have a USB port to charge their phone or wireless internet?  I mean seriously.  It's putting lipstick on a pig.

 

Been saying this all along.

 

Politicians have been kicking the can down the road and touting half measures, and people are eating this up hook line and sinker.

 

Can't wait for people to fight over the USB ports, or block the disabled from getting on and off while they all huddle around them...never mind the invitation for phone theft it creates with their devices all out and for the taking.

 

Never mind the difficulties of isolating a car with open gangways (which needs to be factored into their design or else a "poop car" becomes half the train out of service = everyone get out and wait for the next one)

 

The more things change the more they stay the same. Only in politician and business world do things like "improved lighting" and "better aesthetics" seem like a tangible benefit to anyone...

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The issue isn't what stations "look" like, it's their function.

 

There are benefits to riders of upgrading stations, but it's not in aesthetics. Things like crossunders or crossovers. 96th and Broadway is a great example of a station that was done right. The messy crossunders were eliminated and the station was made with a street level mezzanine allowing access to both platforms. ADA accessibility in a minute with the elevator, and can cross over when service changes force local stations to be bypassed.

 

Some of the best station upgrades would be additional entrances or wider areas and transfer passageways at the most heavily crowded stations. And ventilation at some of the hottest stations in summer to give heat a place to dissipate (service related - this can help reduce the number of sick passengers).

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The issue isn't what stations "look" like, it's their function.

 

There are benefits to riders of upgrading stations, but it's not in aesthetics. Things like crossunders or crossovers. 96th and Broadway is a great example of a station that was done right. The messy crossunders were eliminated and the station was made with a street level mezzanine allowing access to both platforms. ADA accessibility in a minute with the elevator, and can cross over when service changes force local stations to be bypassed.

 

Some of the best station upgrades would be additional entrances or wider areas and transfer passageways at the most heavily crowded stations. And ventilation at some of the hottest stations in summer to give heat a place to dissipate (service related - this can help reduce the number of sick passengers).

 

Thank you.

Another costly, but useful rebuild would be the Lexington Avenue platforms at Union Square. By straightening the tracks and platforms, the gap fillers could be removed, and a bottleneck could be gotten rid of, increasing capacity.

Also, as you mentioned, specifically at IRT stations, which only have one entrance per platform, additional ones could be built, reducing congestion on the platform. Wi-Fi won't help at all.

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Heard it was a 27 billion dollar project as well. Looking forward to hearing more details as time passes.

 

NO! That is the amount of money for the WHOLE capital program.

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Thank you.

Another costly, but useful rebuild would be the Lexington Avenue platforms at Union Square. By straightening the tracks and platforms, the gap fillers could be removed, and a bottleneck could be gotten rid of, increasing capacity.

Also, as you mentioned, specifically at IRT stations, which only have one entrance per platform, additional ones could be built, reducing congestion on the platform. Wi-Fi won't help at all.

 

Unfortunately, it will probably never happen, given that to do it you would need to dig up portions of the park.

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I can see alot of fight happening over who gets the next USB port. I like the new easy to clean finishes, something's gotta be done about these floors. Would be great to see some more benches at stations, sadly they just become beds for the homeless.

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Yeah, honestly I can't say I'm a big fan of the USB ports. Those look like a problem waiting to happen. People will fight over who gets them. They'll get vandalized. They won't say clean and will eventually stop working. I just don't see a point in having them. If the new trains had all transverse seating like on commuter trains or Amtrak, then maybe it could work because there would be more wall space to put additional USB ports.

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I can see alot of fight happening over who gets the next USB port. I like the new easy to clean finishes, something's gotta be done about these floors. Would be great to see some more benches at stations, sadly they just become beds for the homeless.

It may not be such an issue with all of the Wi-Fi hotspots being installed around the city.  They apparently have charging stations.  My phone was on low Saturday night and I used one at 86th and 3rd while waiting for the BxM1.  Didn't seem to charge that great but kept my phone juiced so that I could track my bus.  What I have noticed though is people literally camping out at those Wi-Fi kiosks on the street.  I predict a similar situation in subway stations so they'll need to provide a few of them.  I've seen people literally camped out on benches in the Bryant Park subway station just to use the internet.

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