Dan1 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #1 Posted October 2, 2016 The schedules for some discontinued bus routes are apparently 'hidden' on the MTA website.For example - B23 sched - Spring 2009 B78 sched - Summer 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 2, 2016 Share #2 Posted October 2, 2016 Much like the W timetable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share #3 Posted October 2, 2016 But not the V http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tvcur.pdf I wonder what else is buried on the MTA site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #4 Posted October 2, 2016 http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx014cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bronx/bx055cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b051cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b023cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b071cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b075cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/bkln/b077cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m018cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/manh/m030cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q079cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q074cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/queens/q075cur.pdf http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/staten/s060cur.pdf Plus a few more... They pretty much have the pre-2010 bus schedules still on the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share #5 Posted October 2, 2016 Thanks for those links. Oldest one I found was the B78 sched from 2002. Was actually hunting for the old B19 and B33 schedules, but they must pre-date the MTA website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted October 2, 2016 Share #6 Posted October 2, 2016 Thanks for those links. Oldest one I found was the B78 sched from 2002. Was actually hunting for the old B19 and B33 schedules, but they must pre-date the MTA website. They might be from the www.mta.nyc.ny.us website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted October 2, 2016 Share #7 Posted October 2, 2016 Not news to me, but still good nonetheless... It's great for historical purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DailyDose Posted October 2, 2016 Share #8 Posted October 2, 2016 You can view the old website here: http://web.archive.org/web/19970202043444/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/ I didn't even know there was a MTA website predating mta.info Pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #9 Posted October 2, 2016 There should be a petition to restore the X90. It was well used and would be used if it returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted October 2, 2016 Share #10 Posted October 2, 2016 th You can view the old website here: http://web.archive.org/web/19970202043444/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/ I didn't even know there was a MTA website predating mta.info Pretty cool. thank you very interesting, btw the b5 is missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted October 2, 2016 You can view the old website here: http://web.archive.org/web/19970202043444/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/ I didn't even know there was a MTA website predating mta.info Pretty cool. Thank you. Earliest date I found for bus scheds (in html of course) is July, 1997. I guess the B19 and B33 were long gone by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan1 Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted October 2, 2016 There should be a petition to restore the X90. It was well used and would be used if it returned. Last X90 schedule 04/04/2010 - http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x090cur.pdf Last X25 schedule 06/2009 - http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x025cur.pdf Last X26 schedule 04/12/2004 - http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x026cur.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted October 2, 2016 Share #13 Posted October 2, 2016 There should be a petition to restore the X90. It was well used and would be used if it returned. Manhattanites (well those south of CPS, to be specific) love their taxi's.... Hate to say, but I think the damage is done.... .....Earliest date I found for bus scheds (in html of course) is July, 1997. I guess the B19 and B33 were long gone by then. Yeah, the old B19 got cut during the late 80's & the old B33 got cut in '93 (the same year the old B10 turned into the B15) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 2, 2016 Share #14 Posted October 2, 2016 Manhattanites (well those south of CPS, to be specific) love their taxi's.... Hate to say, but I think the damage is done.... Yeah, the old B19 got cut during the late 80's & the old B33 got cut in '93 (the same year the old B10 turned into the B15) You're probably right. There would have to be some restructuring done to alleviate congestion as well in order for some routes to return. I have to admit that when I stay in the city, we use taxis more than I would care to, but the other half doesn't care for the subway. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted October 2, 2016 Share #15 Posted October 2, 2016 But not the V http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tvcur.pdf I wonder what else is buried on the MTA site? The never had its own timetable; it was always included together with the timetable at the url http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tfcur.pdf, which of course is still being used and updated, unlike the dead routes' timetables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted October 2, 2016 Share #16 Posted October 2, 2016 I've know this for years at least 90% of the schedules for discontinued routes still exist. All the do is remove the links to the schedule when it gets cut. if you take the and change the route you can practically jump to most schedules http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x064cur.pdf replace the x064 with x051 http://web.mta.info/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x051cur.pdf and bam there you go you have the X51 schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 2, 2016 Share #17 Posted October 2, 2016 th thank you very interesting, btw the b5 is missing The B5 was eliminated in 1995. It combined with the B50 to form the B82. There has been talk around here that those routes should have stayed put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted October 2, 2016 Share #18 Posted October 2, 2016 The B10 needs to be back in existence and terminate in Spring Creek and let the B15 be the exclusive bus for JFK. I DONT KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THE B33 so I can't speak for that. However, B10 needs to return and let Grand Avenue run that. The B5 was eliminated in 1995. It combined with the B50 to form the B82. There has been talk around here that those routes should have stayed put The B50 also needs to be back into existence. Let that work the back end. Flatbush/Kings Hwy to CI. B82. Kings Hwy/Flatbush Ave to Starett City-Lousiana Avenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted October 2, 2016 Share #19 Posted October 2, 2016 The B10 needs to be back in existence and terminate in Spring Creek and let the B15 be the exclusive bus for JFK. I DONT KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THE B33 so I can't speak for that. However, B10 needs to return and let Grand Avenue run that. Run the B15 between JFK & where? The B50 also needs to be back into existence. Let that work the back end. Flatbush/Kings Hwy to CI. B82. Kings Hwy/Flatbush Ave to Starett City-Lousiana Avenue That would be bringing back 100% of the the old B5 (with an extension to CI on top of it) and bringing back a truncated version of the old B50.... There are more riders from the Brighton line riding eastbound on the (current) B82, no question about it... This is why I would have the B50 reverted as was.... What you're saying with this is actually worse than the current B82 IMO.... Basically what I'm gettin at is, Kings Hwy/Flatbush av shouldn't be a common "midpoint" if the (current) B82 were to be split.... Both "splits" should serve the the Kings Hwy B/Q station..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 3, 2016 Share #20 Posted October 3, 2016 The B10 needs to be back in existence and terminate in Spring Creek and let the B15 be the exclusive bus for JFK. I DONT KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THE B33 so I can't speak for that. However, B10 needs to return and let Grand Avenue run that. The B50 also needs to be back into existence. Let that work the back end. Flatbush/Kings Hwy to CI. B82. Kings Hwy/Flatbush Ave to Starett City-Lousiana Avenue Would the 82 retain LTD service or would it be revoked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted October 3, 2016 Share #21 Posted October 3, 2016 Would the 82 retain LTD service or would it be revoked? ...Same concern I've pondered upon bringing back the old B50 (as was).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted October 3, 2016 Share #22 Posted October 3, 2016 Run the B15 between JFK & where?I always imagined that if the B10 was running today without an extension, the B15 would run between JFK and Sutter Av- Rutland Rd on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 3, 2016 Share #23 Posted October 3, 2016 That X51 schedule looked real nice. Service until 8:30 PM to Midtown (and until 9 PM to Flushing). Too bad ridership was rather crappy. If people were willing to take it over the , then it could have done well, even with midday and evening (and who knows, maybe even weekend service of some sort). However, that was not the case, and by 2000, midday service was almost entirely gone (we all know the rest from there on). BTW, I've never seen this type of design for the schedule: http://web.archive.org/web/20000916111456/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x051cur.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted October 3, 2016 Share #24 Posted October 3, 2016 That X51 schedule looked real nice. Service until 8:30 PM to Midtown (and until 9 PM to Flushing). Too bad ridership was rather crappy. If people were willing to take it over the , then it could have done well, even with midday and evening (and who knows, maybe even weekend service of some sort). However, that was not the case, and by 2000, midday service was almost entirely gone (we all know the rest from there on). BTW, I've never seen this type of design for the schedule: http://web.archive.org/web/20000916111456/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x051cur.pdf That 2000 schedule is actually really good, and the first and last buses AM are after ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 3, 2016 Share #25 Posted October 3, 2016 That X51 schedule looked real nice. Service until 8:30 PM to Midtown (and until 9 PM to Flushing). Too bad ridership was rather crappy. If people were willing to take it over the , then it could have done well, even with midday and evening (and who knows, maybe even weekend service of some sort). However, that was not the case, and by 2000, midday service was almost entirely gone (we all know the rest from there on). BTW, I've never seen this type of design for the schedule: http://web.archive.org/web/20000916111456/http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/bus/schedule/xpress/x051cur.pdf That 2000 schedule is actually really good, and the first and last buses AM are after ends Not too sure I agree. Hourly frequencies aren't exactly anything to write home about. That isn't to say that the is that great either, but the frequencies are decent, though the crowds suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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