bobtehpanda Posted December 17, 2018 Share #701 Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: He’s already ruled out running for President...well, for now anyway... http://www.wrvo.org/post/cuomo-2020-presidential-run-i-am-ruling-it-out Hillary did that too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted December 17, 2018 Share #702 Posted December 17, 2018 If Cuomo interferes and forces the MTA to maintain manhattan service for the he is stupid as HELL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 18, 2018 Share #703 Posted December 18, 2018 5 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: If Cuomo interferes and forces the MTA to maintain manhattan service for the he is stupid as HELL! I don't think it's even possible to consider without the proper setup for maintenance and safety inspections the MTA is still subject to FRA/FTA oversight especially if you're receiving ample funding from the Feds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted December 18, 2018 Share #704 Posted December 18, 2018 3 hours ago, RailRunRob said: I don't think it's even possible to consider without the proper setup for maintenance and safety inspections the MTA is still subject to FRA/FTA oversight especially if you're receiving ample funding from the Feds. FRA has no jurisdiction and FTA is basically nonexistent unless you're DC Metro. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 18, 2018 Share #705 Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: FRA has no jurisdiction and FTA is basically nonexistent unless you're DC Metro. The MTA doesn't have work with the FRA? They have 2 major railroads under there belts. As far as the FTA I know they had TSO guidelines to qualify for funding for agencies this was back in 2000-01 when I was working in rail industry but you might be correct then if they're not really receiving funds from the feds nowadays. I guess that brings me to my next question what's the governing body that's setting and overseeing safety standards? Or just standards in general? Edited December 18, 2018 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted December 18, 2018 Share #706 Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) There’s actually a myriad of federal and state agencies that have jurisdiction over parts of the operations. PTC on the railroads, signal and timer installations on the subway system, SIR equipment requirements in the past , SBS, bus specifications pertaining to road worthiness. Just a few things that I can remember off the top of my head. Ever notice a conductor or train operator with earplugs? OSHA mandated safety equipment. Even the most mundane things in the world of transportation are subject to regulatory approval in some fashion. It’s no different than air transportation or motor transport. Carry on. Edited December 18, 2018 by Trainmaster5 Additional information 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted December 18, 2018 Share #707 Posted December 18, 2018 6 hours ago, RailRunRob said: The MTA doesn't have work with the FRA? They have 2 major railroads under there belts. As far as the FTA I know they had TSO guidelines to qualify for funding for agencies this was back in 2000-01 when I was working in rail industry but you might be correct then if they're not really receiving funds from the feds nowadays. I guess that brings me to my next question what's the governing body that's setting and overseeing safety standards? Or just standards in general? Well the subway isn't under FRA. This entire thread is about the which is not a railroad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 18, 2018 Share #708 Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: Well the subway isn't under FRA. This entire thread is about the which is not a railroad. Understood I was speaking about the MTA in board terms why the FTA/FRA was stated. Just a bit of miscommunication. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted December 18, 2018 Share #709 Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said: There’s actually a myriad of federal and state agencies that have jurisdiction over parts of the operations. PTC on the railroads, signal and timer installations on the subway system, SIR equipment requirements in the past , SBS, bus specifications pertaining to road worthiness. Just a few things that I can remember off the top of my head. Ever notice a conductor or train operator with earplugs? OSHA mandated safety equipment. Even the most mundane things in the world of transportation are subject to regulatory approval in some fashion. It’s no different than air transportation or motor transport. Carry on. Right! I figured so. As you stated other modes of transport have standards. I'm sure with NYCTA cars there's a multiple point check every certain amount of miles and you'd need tools and a particular environment to carry out this work there's just getting around that without yard access. My point. Edited December 18, 2018 by RailRunRob 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted December 18, 2018 Share #710 Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 2:34 PM, T to Dyre Avenue said: He’s already ruled out running for President...well, for now anyway... http://www.wrvo.org/post/cuomo-2020-presidential-run-i-am-ruling-it-out A lot can change between now and the spring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted December 19, 2018 Share #711 Posted December 19, 2018 20 hours ago, Wallyhorse said: A lot can change between now and the spring. This won’t...not unless Cuomo forces the MTA not to go through with the shutdown. But there would be a lot of political fallout from that, which would almost certainly make him an even less desirable candidate for president. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share #712 Posted December 20, 2018 Exactly. Can you imagine what would happen if the patchwork repairs fail because Cuomo decided to strong-arm the MTA and force the cancellation of the closure? The inevitable line shutdown that would follow would be more costly and more time-consuming than just letting the original shutdown commence as planned. Also, I'm still baffled on how a line closure here in New York translates into increased / reduced presidential viability. Voters in the boondocks barely care about what happens in NYC. What makes you think someone in middle of nowhere Ohio is going to care about a partial line closure? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted December 20, 2018 Share #713 Posted December 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Lance said: Exactly. Can you imagine what would happen if the patchwork repairs fail because Cuomo decided to strong-arm the MTA and force the cancellation of the closure? The inevitable line shutdown that would follow would be more costly and more time-consuming than just letting the original shutdown commence as planned. Also, I'm still baffled on how a line closure here in New York translates into increased / reduced presidential viability. Voters in the boondocks barely care about what happens in NYC. What makes you think someone in middle of nowhere Ohio is going to care about a partial line closure? Nailed it Lance. You have people in the DC Metro area with their own transit problems who don't care about the situation in NYC. Now imagine someone in Neckbone, Mississippi caring about Cuomo, the train, or a tunnel closure. Democrats or Republicans. 😁 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just New York Posted December 21, 2018 Share #714 Posted December 21, 2018 NTT are way more sensitive it would be a very high risk running the Manhattan portion without yard access. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted December 21, 2018 Share #715 Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 1:19 PM, Lance said: Exactly. Can you imagine what would happen if the patchwork repairs fail because Cuomo decided to strong-arm the MTA and force the cancellation of the closure? The inevitable line shutdown that would follow would be more costly and more time-consuming than just letting the original shutdown commence as planned. Also, I'm still baffled on how a line closure here in New York translates into increased / reduced presidential viability. Voters in the boondocks barely care about what happens in NYC. What makes you think someone in middle of nowhere Ohio is going to care about a partial line closure? This would specifically be voters who live and/or work in New York and related to potential votes in mainly the New York primary specifically as well as to a much lesser degree the New Jersey and Connecticut primaries. The rest of the country does not come into play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted December 28, 2018 Share #716 Posted December 28, 2018 Quick question: What was the most Recent Physical Change on 14th Street or any piece of Infrastructure related to the Train Shutdown? I'd like to know so I can take pictures/record a video for my own project that analyses the events of the Train Shutdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted January 3, 2019 Share #717 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) On 12/28/2018 at 1:31 PM, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: Quick question: What was the most Recent Physical Change on 14th Street or any piece of Infrastructure related to the Train Shutdown? I'd like to know so I can take pictures/record a video for my own project that analyses the events of the Train Shutdown. I did see some bus lanes painted in Union Square when I passed by a few weeks ago. Some machine stands were also installed a few months ago. Other than that, I’m not sure what else was up there. Edited January 3, 2019 by JeremiahC99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted January 3, 2019 Share #718 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Maybe we shouldn't be so fast to sh*t on Wally's conception of politics... Let's see if this actually pans out. Announcement is in 12 mins... EDIT: Confirmed. The f*cking Prince has decided that it's better to screw NYC with 36 months of crowding instead of 15. I think this is the moment where we give up on NYC transit ever unf*cking itself. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/nyregion/l-train-shutdown.html Beyond the incontrovertible idiocy of not doing the full shutdown, this is a complete denigration of public process. There were hearings on this. Alternatives and assessments and decisions were put together. What we're seeing today is basically an authoritarian rejection of that entire process. I hope everyone here (provided they want the 15 month version) takes it upon themselves to call their representatives/Cuomo and give them hell. Edited January 3, 2019 by RR503 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 3, 2019 Share #719 Posted January 3, 2019 God damnit! What kind of crap is this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted January 3, 2019 Share #720 Posted January 3, 2019 Livestream here. https://www.governor.ny.gov/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted January 3, 2019 Share #721 Posted January 3, 2019 I thought he didn’t control the MTA. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted January 3, 2019 Share #722 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Yeah, Cuomo and the State are definitely in control of the MTA. Not DiBlasio, as a certain someone loves to insist. This dumbass here, who for years spent time saying the City was ultimately responsible for the subways. Edited January 3, 2019 by GojiMet86 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 3, 2019 Share #723 Posted January 3, 2019 i hope the hipsters who predicted doom and gloom are happy because of your crying and moaning your screwing everyone else 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted January 3, 2019 Share #724 Posted January 3, 2019 I just saw that he cancelled the 14th ST shutdown. What is he thinking!?!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted January 3, 2019 Share #725 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Makes no sense. At least if they did the Full Shutdown, they would've been able to get all of the work done on a single timeline and then get out. Now with the weekends/nights only shutdown it will take way longer and god knows if the structure would/could hold that long. On another serious note, he had plenty of time to do his tour of the tunnel and it bothers me that he waited until the last minute really which is really crazy. And the years of alternative planning and increased subway service on certain routes has seems to have gone into waste. Edited January 3, 2019 by Daniel The Cool 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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