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As much as we like to bemoan the excessive costs for MTA-related construction projects, I cannot see the reason for most of the outrage in this case. From the modifications outlined, it looks like a lot of the additional expenses were the result of deteriorating conditions that weren't visible or apparent when the initial estimates were agreed upon. We'd all like for the expense to remain the same without any changes, that's rarely the case. Things like this pop up in any old structure. I'd much prefer they took care of this items now rather than wait until the components fail and we have to pay for another full station renovation five years from now.

That mention of the additional waterproofing however is yet again, very annoying. Water flows down in constant rain storms? Color me shocked.

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4 hours ago, BMTKateMeltonLine said:

How about rehabilitating numerous Concourse [<B> & (D)] stations @ 170th, and north of Tremont. 

Norwood needs a renovation the most.

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On 11/28/2018 at 11:06 PM, Derrick Tan said:

First video is by Daniel Paucar, which is the first and only video of the reopened station for now. Second video is by JamaicaZ160, which is a video of the station's finishing touches.

Wait, they extended the platform? Finally. 

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5 hours ago, BMTKateMeltonLine said:

How about rehabilitating numerous Concourse [<B> & (D)] stations @ 170th, and north of Tremont. 

those are the mustiest ones, too. I suspect there's a lot of masonry damage underneath the tiles. If the city sustains another Sandy-like incident, there's a good chance that Grand Concourse service will cease to be.

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12 minutes ago, MassTransitHonchkrow said:

Wait, they extended the platform? Finally. 

The MTA didn't extend it. Platform extension wasn't included in ESI so the platform still only fits 4-5 cars.

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4 hours ago, MassTransitHonchkrow said:

those are the mustiest ones, too. I suspect there's a lot of masonry damage underneath the tiles. If the city sustains another Sandy-like incident, there's a good chance that Grand Concourse service will cease to be.

A lot of the IND in general could use some repairs... Norwood is hell,  Lafayette is a prison, Culver after 4th-9th is rotting, 103rd has more plywood than concrete, and the upper Manhattan stations (168th and north) stink like shit.

 

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1 hour ago, R68OnBroadway said:

A lot of the IND in general could use some repairs... Norwood is hell,  Lafayette is a prison, Culver after 4th-9th is rotting, 103rd has more plywood than concrete, and the upper Manhattan stations (168th and north) stink like shit.

 

Same goes for Chambers Street, Bowery, East Broadway, Hunts Point Avenue, Third Avenue-138th Street, Lexington Avenue-59th St on the (N)(R) and (W) Line, Queensboro Plaza, 68th Street-Hunter College, 86th Street on the (1) Line, 14th Street-6th Avenue on the  (F)(L) and (M) Lines, Most QBL Stations and (A)(C)(J)(L)(Z) Stations as well.

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5 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

A lot of the IND in general could use some repairs... Norwood is hell,  Lafayette is a prison, Culver after 4th-9th is rotting, 103rd has more plywood than concrete, and the upper Manhattan stations (168th and north) stink like shit.

 

Lafayette Avenue will never cease to baffle me. A quaint local station with a gigantic mezzanine that would make some express stations blush. IND philosophy at its finest. I’m typically against mezzanines being shrunk or segmented, but if there was ever a station that needed it, it’s Lafayette.

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16 hours ago, MassTransitHonchkrow said:

Wait, they extended the platform? Finally. 

145 has been open though...

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8 hours ago, ABOGbrooklyn said:

145 has been open though...

I necroposted. Sorry. I haven't rode the (3) since early March 2018. I had no idea they planned to finally fix that afterthought of a station.

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20 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

A lot of the IND in general could use some repairs... Norwood is hell,  Lafayette is a prison, Culver after 4th-9th is rotting, 103rd has more plywood than concrete, and the upper Manhattan stations (168th and north) stink like shit.

 

and the platforms on the BMT Jamaica line rattle like an old person's bones. I have this nagging feeling that the floor is gonna fall one [c]rush hour in the not too distant future.

Maybe if the station agents didn't buzz in the trash they wouldn't smell so horrible. Right now, LA is dealing with diseases the world hasn't seen since the 13th century, and the situation in the subway will give eventual rise to a similar calamity.

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20 hours ago, MassTransitHonchkrow said:

and the platforms on the BMT Jamaica line rattle like an old person's bones. I have this nagging feeling that the floor is gonna fall one [c]rush hour in the not too distant future.

Maybe if the station agents didn't buzz in the trash they wouldn't smell so horrible. Right now, LA is dealing with diseases the world hasn't seen since the 13th century, and the situation in the subway will give eventual rise to a similar calamity.

Well at least it’s nothing like what is going on with the (7) line. Stuff has been falling from the structure as of late, however that line doesn’t get shut down like the (J) does to give the structure proper attention. At the same time that is also why I dislike the (J) line because it doesn’t have a proper express track in Queens and in East NY so trains can just bypass stations and if they need to do track work or structure work best believe the whole line from Jamaica Center to Crescent Street or Broadway Junction is being shut down which is a huge inconvenience.

At least now they are rehabbing a lot of the stations in Queens and they were much smarter with how they did 111th street. 

On 6/10/2019 at 1:01 AM, Cabanamaner said:

Lafayette Avenue will never cease to baffle me. A quaint local station with a gigantic mezzanine that would make some express stations blush. IND philosophy at its finest. I’m typically against mezzanines being shrunk or segmented, but if there was ever a station that needed it, it’s Lafayette.

There are some stations like Sutphin Blvd and Parsons Blvd on the (F) that retained its full mezzanines despite them being empty most of the time. 

I just hope the MTA starts opening up more station entrances especially at stations where people would potentially have to travel from one end of the platform to the other just to leave like station like at Northern Blvd (M)(R) .

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On 6/10/2019 at 1:01 AM, Cabanamaner said:

Lafayette Avenue will never cease to baffle me. A quaint local station with a gigantic mezzanine that would make some express stations blush. IND philosophy at its finest. I’m typically against mezzanines being shrunk or segmented, but if there was ever a station that needed it, it’s Lafayette.

Those large IND mezzanines would be perfect spaces for bike parking but no one thinks multimodally in New York apparently...

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Are there any plans for other elevated stations to get the glass treatment like Astoria, or is everyone else just stuck with the somewhat ugly pre-fabricated station walls?

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