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7 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

You don’t necessarily need bus lanes for sbs, you can get away with off board payment. If I recall the Q70 doesn’t have bus lanes, correct me if I’m wrong. 

I know, but that is obsolete with OMNY. Bus lanes would pretty much be the only thing that sets SBS apart from other buses, besides farther stop spacing. In fact, the stop spacing might be it. Some local routes, such as the M102 and M103 have bus lanes, and routes like the M1 and Q5 have TSP.

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13 minutes ago, King Transit said:

This is what made me think that the B15 cannot be +SBS a year ago. But the B46 +SBS is privileged, and has no room for the bus lanes going from St. Johns Pl towards Fulton and passed it via Utica Ave(also the opposite run). And yes for the one who said that the Q10 works for +SBS. Wait Lefferts ??? I know the B15 don't run on Lefferts Ave, unless you mean something else.

I was talking about the Q10. If it were up to me, I would rip out every single one of the parking spots on Lefferts and provide 7 AM- 7 PM bus lanes (I would love to go further and make them 24 hour), but that won't fly as this is a major commercial corridor going through residential areas. They are adding a southbound bus lane on the B46 between Chauncey and Atlantic.

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12 minutes ago, Brillant93 said:

You don’t necessarily need bus lanes for sbs, you can get away with off board payment. If I recall the Q70 doesn’t have bus lanes, correct me if I’m wrong. 

It doesn't. While the BQE moves pretty quickly, lanes should be provided there. In addition, bus lanes NEED to be provided in the airport for the Q70. The dedicated busway for the M60 that @bobtehpanda had suggested some time back would be amazing, but it is likely too late for that.

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I am not as familiar with the JFK section of the Q10, but perhaps there is a way to add bus lanes in the Airport. South of Rockaway Boulevard, Lefferts Boulevard widens, so there should be room for lanes there. The same for Rockaway Boulevard.

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1 hour ago, Union Tpke said:

I am not as familiar with the JFK section of the Q10, but perhaps there is a way to add bus lanes in the Airport. South of Rockaway Boulevard, Lefferts Boulevard widens, so there should be room for lanes there. The same for Rockaway Boulevard.

This is what I think. If traffic can still move a bit while lanes can be blocked for construction, traffic can still move if two lanes are removed for bus lanes.

48226396102_9ea6760be6_b.jpgScreen Shot 2019-07-07 at 7.45.21 PM by Union Turnpike, on Flickr

 

 

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14 hours ago, Union Tpke said:

 ...They are adding a southbound bus lane on the B46 between Chauncey and Atlantic.

I haven't heard that, do that means they should rip out the parking between Chauncey and Fulton. And I knew that they should re-modify the 2 stops on Fulton St(hope it goes under construction now). Because in my observation, the congestion is worse on that corridor between Fulton and Atlantic on the curve. Plus, I was thinking the Vision Zero team adds more traffic secs for Utica Ave and Atlantic Ave.  

 

 

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On 7/8/2019 at 9:27 AM, King Transit said:

I haven't heard that, do that means they should rip out the parking between Chauncey and Fulton. And I knew that they should re-modify the 2 stops on Fulton St(hope it goes under construction now). Because in my observation, the congestion is worse on that corridor between Fulton and Atlantic on the curve. Plus, I was thinking the Vision Zero team adds more traffic secs for Utica Ave and Atlantic Ave.  

 

 

I am well aware of the congestion on the curve between Fulton and Atlantic. As a City Tech student who, as a full-time student, takes the B46 SBS to Fulton Street, then the (A)(C) to either Jay Street-MetroTech (Namm/Library (formerly Atrium/General/Pearl Halls) or High Street (Voorhees Hall), I notice that going northbound in the morning, there is usually congestion between Bergen Street and Fulton Street, with the curve being the worst offender. I see a line of cars parked along that curve and on one ride, I was thinking “Can they convert that northbound parking lane into a protected bus lane directly into the bus stop?” That could get northbound B46 local and SBS to go around congestion in the adjacent lane. The lane would be active during rush hours only. To complement it, they should modify the timing of the signals at every intersection between Eastern Pkwy and DeKalb Avenue to be coordinated with the buses (Transit Signal Priority) as to further speed up trips. Also, the bus lane north of Bergen Street should also have some protected bollards to protect abuse, especially from the NYPD, with the district next to it.

Note that I am currently off from school for the summer until August 27th, so I won’t be able to figure out how congestion is during the summer vacation. However, I do expect to see some improvements to the conditions  there.

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Excuse me but some people actually can't understand the terrible advertisement on the machines that say get ticket here. 

It is understood that metrocard serves as the ticket for all NYC transit so a paper or receipt ticket doesn't make sense as far as fee payment.

Other cities in the US have a different system so you cannot say this is common practice elsewhere. In other countries they do not make the mistake of calling it a ticket machine but rather tell people to VALIDATE their ticket ahead of time. Even NJ transit light rail has this system. But the fact that there is no clear signage stating ticket or metrocards must be validated as a paper receipt prior to boarding leaves people thinking they can "pay" once they board which turns out they can't because the machine he been covered and made to look like out of order. I'm not unreasonable in saying this is a misunderstanding people can have and the TAB doesn't understand this when you hand out summonses liberally. 

What's especially frustrating is the LMK of consistency over people who are riding with a free transfer or an unlimited card vs people who never bothered to pay in the first place. The TAB doesn't understand the someone who already paid their fare and has a free transfer he paid that's it , thus even if they did not validate their transfer it was still paid for and person boarding SBS is not evading any fare.

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