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Derailment Near 125 Street (8th Avenue); Minor Injuries Reported

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A derailment and power outage at the 125th Street subway station in Manhattan has suspended service on multiple subway lines as riders describe terror and chaos, including smoke-filled cars and loud bangs.The MTA confirmed the derailment in a tweet shortly before 11 a.m. Tuesday, saying the A train had been evacuated. Transit and fire sources tell NBC 4 New York at least one car derailed at a low rate of speed. Emergency crews were dealing with reports of three or four injuries, all described as minor.

 

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Again R46 this time on (A) derailment something is seriously wrong with those subway cars.

R68s are not experiencing these problems.

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Three injured, hundreds evacuated after A train derails in Harlem

 

Three people were injured and hundreds were evacuated Tuesday after a section of a Harlem A train flew off the tracks and smoke began to fill the subway cars during the morning rush hour, officials and witnesses said.

 

The Brooklyn-bound train came to a grinding halt outside the 125th St. station near St. Nicholas Ave. about 9:45 a.m. after an apparent power outage, witnesses said.

 

At least one train car got dislodged from the tracks in what officials describe as a minor derailment, according to law enforcement sources.

 

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A train riders were left hot and in the dark after power went out around 9:30 a.m.  (ANTHONY DELMUNDO/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS)

“Lights went out and train halted just shy of the 125th St. stop of the A train,” straphanger Jackie Faherty tweeted. “Passengers slowly let out.”

 

Smoke began to fill the train cars, other straphangers said.

 

“Just got evacuated from a smoke filled train in probably the most terrifying 15 minutes of my NYC life ??” another train commuter tweeted.

 

Riders said the lights and air conditioning on their train went kaput at first.

 

The MTA reported a loss of power at 125th St. after 9:30 a.m., holding up A, C, B, and D trains.

 

"@NYCTSubway lights and a/c went out on train and train came to a full stop. What's going on? Downtown A train about to pull into 125th," Jenny Loeffler wrote on Twitter.

 

The MTA's subway alert feed on Twitter said crews are working on bringing power back but had no estimate for how long it'll be out.

 

Three people with minor injuries were being treated at the scene, an FDNY spokesman said.

 

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/injured-hundreds-evacuated-train-derails-harlem-article-1.3281378

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Wow...This becoming insane...Hope there now serious injuries....And yet the r46 again...Maybe this R179 Should have replaced the 46's instead of the 32's...More problems with theses cars than those...

Will be complete hell taking the subway tonight. Not only because of the (A)(B)(C)(D), but there are MORE delays elsewhere.... 

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Three injured, hundreds evacuated after A train derails in Harlem

 

Three people were injured and hundreds were evacuated Tuesday after a section of a Harlem A train flew off the tracks and smoke began to fill the subway cars during the morning rush hour, officials and witnesses said.

 

The Brooklyn-bound train came to a grinding halt outside the 125th St. station near St. Nicholas Ave. about 9:45 a.m. after an apparent power outage, witnesses said.

 

At least one train car got dislodged from the tracks in what officials describe as a minor derailment, according to law enforcement sources.

 

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A train riders were left hot and in the dark after power went out around 9:30 a.m.  (ANTHONY DELMUNDO/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS)

“Lights went out and train halted just shy of the 125th St. stop of the A train,” straphanger Jackie Faherty tweeted. “Passengers slowly let out.”

 

Smoke began to fill the train cars, other straphangers said.

 

“Just got evacuated from a smoke filled train in probably the most terrifying 15 minutes of my NYC life ??” another train commuter tweeted.

 

Riders said the lights and air conditioning on their train went kaput at first.

 

The MTA reported a loss of power at 125th St. after 9:30 a.m., holding up A, C, B, and D trains.

 

"@NYCTSubway lights and a/c went out on train and train came to a full stop. What's going on? Downtown A train about to pull into 125th," Jenny Loeffler wrote on Twitter.

 

The MTA's subway alert feed on Twitter said crews are working on bringing power back but had no estimate for how long it'll be out.

 

Three people with minor injuries were being treated at the scene, an FDNY spokesman said.

 

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/injured-hundreds-evacuated-train-derails-harlem-article-1.3281378

And to think the entire  (A) fleet. (longest route in the system) have theses cars...

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Apparently those 3 people evacuated the subway car and walked thru the tunnel and into the station. Again, it is stressed that people shouldn't walk thru the tunnel.

 

The bigger issue is that the (A) needs new train cars and ASAP. If the governor can accelerate construction on the roads, it needs to be the same with the subways. Plus we are about to approach the summer of hell. July 1st to September 1st with all these repairs.

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Apparently those 3 people evacuated the subway car and walked thru the tunnel and into the station. Again, it is stressed that people shouldn't walk thru the tunnel.

 

The bigger issue is that the (A) needs new train cars and ASAP. If the governor can accelerate construction on the roads, it needs to be the same with the subways. Plus we are about to approach the summer of hell. July 1st to September 1st with all these repairs.

(A) Trains in my opinion should have been had new cars... (MTA) should have been fixed that voltage situation in the rockways and pitkin to me should have receive some of those R160B Option that replaced the 44's...I know that got to go somewhere for now but all dont have to serve one line...I always wondered why the  (MTA) kept the older or oldest cars on there longest route... :huh:

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Before we condemn the 46s as death traps, shall we consider the events that actually transpired today? There are a lot of assumptions coming out with very little actual information to back up. What we do know is that an (A) train derailed this morning, specifically the first car. The fact that it involved a 46 consist may actually be irrelevant as derailments are usually caused by defects in the tracks, not the train cars. That means it could've been the same circumstances had the train been a (B) or (D) train (68s) or a (C) train running on the express tracks (160s). Rather than jump to conclusions and declare the 46s unfit for service, perhaps we should wait for the official report concerning the incident.

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Before we condemn the 46s as death traps, shall we consider the events that actually transpired today? There are a lot of assumptions coming out with very little actual information to back up. What we do know is that an (A) train derailed this morning, specifically the first car. The fact that it involved a 46 consist may actually be irrelevant as derailments are usually caused by defects in the tracks, not the train cars. That means it could've been the same circumstances had the train been a (B) or (D) train (68s) or a (C) train running on the express tracks (160s). Rather than jump to conclusions and declare the 46s unfit for service, perhaps we should wait for the official report concerning the incident.

I agree we should wait until we know more before we start laying blame on what caused the derailment.  However, I still consider the R46s a death trap for two reasons. 1) the locked end doors 2) the lack of intercom between the car and the train crew.  

 

If the train crew isn't able to reach the cars in an emergency, the passengers would be trapped with no way out and no way to talk to anyone.  I find it shocking that the MTA has never bothered to retrofit the pre-NTT cars with critical safety equipment like an intercom.  

 

Intercoms are old technology and are not rocket science so I won't accept technical excuses why they can't be installed.  It's likely that the MTA made a business decision not to have intercoms.

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Before we condemn the 46s as death traps, shall we consider the events that actually transpired today? There are a lot of assumptions coming out with very little actual information to back up. What we do know is that an (A) train derailed this morning, specifically the first car. The fact that it involved a 46 consist may actually be irrelevant as derailments are usually caused by defects in the tracks, not the train cars. That means it could've been the same circumstances had the train been a (B) or (D) train (68s) or a (C) train running on the express tracks (160s). Rather than jump to conclusions and declare the 46s unfit for service, perhaps we should wait for the official report concerning the incident.

You right....It just seem like the R46's is becoming more unreliable i guest because of its problems lately...But yes we have to wait for an full investagation...

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It just happened and you already got fools putting blame on the R46's. There's no common sense in people sadly.

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Before we condemn the 46s as death traps, shall we consider the events that actually transpired today? There are a lot of assumptions coming out with very little actual information to back up. What we do know is that an (A) train derailed this morning, specifically the first car. The fact that it involved a 46 consist may actually be irrelevant as derailments are usually caused by defects in the tracks, not the train cars. That means it could've been the same circumstances had the train been a (B) or (D) train (68s) or a (C) train running on the express tracks (160s). Rather than jump to conclusions and declare the 46s unfit for service, perhaps we should wait for the official report concerning the incident.

Exactly. The R46 has not been an actual issue for a few decades.

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I can't believe some of you guys are complaining about what subway R type derailed. Like seriously people are hurt, people are stranded, people are probably in shock and you guys are discussing the R type. Hope everyone is not seriously injured or injured at all but it happens an R-type isn't and shouldn't be singled out like the train wanted to derail.

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This just in:

 

 http://nypost.com/2017/06/27/emergency-brake-caused-subway-derailment-mta/

 

 

 

The Harlem subway derailment happened when an emergency brake was activated as the A train approached the 125th Street station Tuesday, MTA officials said.

 

Now - it remains unclear WHY the train went BIE. But - these things shouldn't be derailing when the brakes go into emergency. I would contend this is evidence of the 46 being insufficient. 

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Before we condemn the 46s as death traps, shall we consider the events that actually transpired today? There are a lot of assumptions coming out with very little actual information to back up. What we do know is that an (A) train derailed this morning, specifically the first car. The fact that it involved a 46 consist may actually be irrelevant as derailments are usually caused by defects in the tracks, not the train cars. That means it could've been the same circumstances had the train been a (B) or (D) train (68s) or a (C) train running on the express tracks (160s). Rather than jump to conclusions and declare the 46s unfit for service, perhaps we should wait for the official report concerning the incident.

Here is the official statement of events:

 

As the (A) was entering 125th, something caused the emergency brakes to activate, causing the cars to buckle and smash into each other which then caused the second and third cars to derail, and sideswipe the wall, taking out a switch, a signal, and a substation box which then caused a power outage. As the train was side swiping, sparks flew and garbage on the tracks caught on fire. After it derailed, three people broke the cab window in the back of the A train and walked out on the tracks to get to the next station.

More information should be available soon.

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Although it was potentially a track defect, you know how it will be viewed in the eyes of the public. They will continue to demand new cars regardless of the reason. It's really not gonna do much for them though, because the R46s will not be fully replaced for about another decade, depending on how long the R211 order takes.

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Also, there's a rail condition on the (E) and (M) which is further limiting and delaying service on 6th Avenue and 8th Avenue.

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I can't believe some of you guys are complaining about what subway R type derailed. Like seriously people are hurt, people are stranded, people are probably in shock and you guys are discussing the R type. Hope everyone is not seriously injured or injured at all but it happens an R-type isn't and shouldn't be singled out like the train wanted to derail.

What else is new...  <_<

 

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Here's more on the injuries:

 

Updated 17 mins ago
HARLEM, Manhattan (WABC) --

Nearly three dozen people were injured when two cars of a subway train derailed in Upper Manhattan, triggering a power outage that halted service on four lines Tuesday morning.

 

The incident happened just before 9:55 a.m. near the 125th Street Station in Harlem.

 

MTA officials said the emergency brake for a southbound 'A' train were triggered, causing the two cars to go off the tracks and strike the wall of the subway tunnel. The train was just north of the station at the time.

 

The exact nature of the derailment is unclear, and the train is being checked.

 

SCENE PHOTOS: 'A' train derails in Harlem

 

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In all, 34 people suffered minor injuries in the ordeal -- 17 were taken to nearby hospitals for treatment. Some of the injuries were from possible smoke inhalation, as there was a smoke condition in the tunnel following the incident. Some of the people walked through the tunnel to escaped their stopped train after the derailment.

 

FDNY is working to determine the cause of the smoke condition. They also advised riders not to get off the trains unless directed to do so by an official.

 

As a result of the incident, there are significant service impacts on A, B, C and D trains, along with other changes on E, F and M trains.

 

Here's a rundown of changes:

 

* There is no A train service between 59 St-Columbus and Inwood-207 St in both directions

 

* B train service is suspended between Brighton Beach and 145 St in both directions

 

* C train service is suspended between Euclid Av and 168 St in both directions

 

* There is no D train service between 42 St-Bryant Park and 161 St-Yankee Stadium in both directions

 

* There is shuttle D train service between 161 St-Yankee Stadium and Norwood-205 St in both directions

 

* Some northbound F trains are running on the G line from Bergen St to Court Sq then via E line to Jackson Hts-Roosevelt Av

 

* Some Forest Hills bound M trains are terminating at Essex St.

 

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Videos and other media available as well... As usual, everybody on their damn cell phones instead of seeing what's going on...

 

Source: http://abc7ny.com/traffic/34-hurt-in-a-train-derailment-in-manhattan-halting-service/2154319/

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So why are they now experiencing problems from (F)(R) and now (A)?

For all we know it could've been caused by a rail condition just like the (F) Train derailment. Let's just wait and see before we start blaming the R46s.

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