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To those arguing the merits about express and locals on the qb line with the rbb it should include converting woodhaven to express to relieve Roosevelt 

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12 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said:

To those arguing the merits about express and locals on the qb line with the rbb it should include converting woodhaven to express to relieve Roosevelt 

Hold up, wasn't this discussed in this thread earlier??? 

Like around pages 3 - 7 or so?

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5 hours ago, LGA Link N train said:

Hold up, wasn't this discussed in this thread earlier??? 

Like around pages 3 - 7 or so?

Yeah but in the last 2 pages they mentioned people passing up expresses at roosevelt etc

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I still support RBB reactivation- but it SHOULD NOT be a number 1 priority. Like others have pointed out- there are many other neighborhoods without transit access. 

And also, the Queensway clowns should not be allowed to convert it to a park. They should lose and go home and cry. 

These are extensions that should get higher priority over RBB:

Full length SAS from Broadway-125 St to Hanover Square, with branches to the Bronx, Brooklyn, and even a connection to the Nassau St Line.

The line will be 4-tracked between 55 St and Grand St. I would include express tracks north of 55 St BENEATH the existing ones- but I don't think it is that important compared to other projects. 

3 Av SAS Branch

Arguably dense area that needs subway access. This line would replace the old EL.

Queens Bypass to 71 Av

This is arguably more needed as it will relieve QB, which is notoriously congested. It will also allow a faster commute for eastern Jamaica riders. 

10 Av-Northern Blvd Line

This line would serve the Far West Side and creates a crosstown route into Queens as an extension of the (L) . It would greatly syphon riders off of the (7) and provide subway access to those in the underserved communities of Jackson Heights, Whitestone, and College Point, all of which are more dense than the neighborhoods in which RBB runs thru. 

Utica Av Line

This part of Bklyn is very dense, moreso than RBB. The B46 SBS is often CRUSH-LOADED as a result. Bringing the (3) down there will be more beneficial to the neighborhood. 

Nostrand Av Extension

This extension would eliminate the inefficient terminal setup at Flatbush and better serve SE Brooklyn. This may relieve crowds off of the (Q) as a result. 

Hillside Extension of the (F) 

This would serve a dense area in a large transit desert which experience some of the longest commutes in the nation. This will greatly reduce the need for the lots of buses running down Hillside. At Springfield the line will curve down Braddock Av to Little Neck Pkwy.  

Laurelton (E) Extension

SE Queens is very dense and doesn't have a direct one-seat ride to Manhattan considering all LIRR service only goes to Atlantic Terminal. This (E) would be a boon for residents living there and allows LIRR service to be shifted to St. Albans. 

Triboro RX

A very important crosstown route that reduces the need to take slow buses or backtrack on subways. It also provides transit access in East Flatbush and Canarsie. 

Long Island Expwy Branch 

A huge transit desert in NE Queens that experiences long commutes to Manhattan, which is mix of low/medium density housing. I would first do it as an extension of the (R)

Throgs Neck branch of SAS

This SLIGHTLY beats RBB as a priority. Throgs Neck is miles from the (6) and solely relies on buses. This line would serve it, along with serving Hunts Point and Soundview. 

So to sum it up, RBB should not be as a high priority, but still be built. I would say RBB should be in a mid or long term expansion plan. Just very low on a mid term plan and very high for the long term. 

 

 

 

 

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So back in Sacramento, there's a section of Interstate 5 called "The Boat" that separates Downtown Sacramento from the Riverfront/Old Sacramento. (If it made the news out here, this is the section that flooded a few years ago and needed to be closed for drainage repair since it's built as an open cut below the watertable.) There was a plan to convert this into a "tunnel" by building a roof over it - high enough not to impede traffic on the freeway but low enough to accommodate grass and plants and some stores to create a park and physical connection by hiding the freeway.

I bring this up because since RBB is an elevated structure, it shouldn't be terribly expensive to sink the tracks below street level and build a park on top of it.

But I don't think the people shouting for a park there represent a significant percentage of the population along the corridor.

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3 hours ago, D to 96 St said:

I still support RBB reactivation- but it SHOULD NOT be a number 1 priority. Like others have pointed out- there are many other neighborhoods without transit access. 

And also, the Queensway clowns should not be allowed to convert it to a park. They should lose and go home and cry. 

These are extensions that should get higher priority over RBB:

Full length SAS from Broadway-125 St to Hanover Square, with branches to the Bronx, Brooklyn, and even a connection to the Nassau St Line.

The line will be 4-tracked between 55 St and Grand St. I would include express tracks north of 55 St BENEATH the existing ones- but I don't think it is that important compared to other projects. 

3 Av SAS Branch

Arguably dense area that needs subway access. This line would replace the old EL.

Queens Bypass to 71 Av

This is arguably more needed as it will relieve QB, which is notoriously congested. It will also allow a faster commute for eastern Jamaica riders. 

10 Av-Northern Blvd Line

This line would serve the Far West Side and creates a crosstown route into Queens as an extension of the (L) . It would greatly syphon riders off of the (7) and provide subway access to those in the underserved communities of Jackson Heights, Whitestone, and College Point, all of which are more dense than the neighborhoods in which RBB runs thru. 

Utica Av Line

This part of Bklyn is very dense, moreso than RBB. The B46 SBS is often CRUSH-LOADED as a result. Bringing the (3) down there will be more beneficial to the neighborhood. 

Nostrand Av Extension

This extension would eliminate the inefficient terminal setup at Flatbush and better serve SE Brooklyn. This may relieve crowds off of the (Q) as a result. 

Hillside Extension of the (F) 

This would serve a dense area in a large transit desert which experience some of the longest commutes in the nation. This will greatly reduce the need for the lots of buses running down Hillside. At Springfield the line will curve down Braddock Av to Little Neck Pkwy.  

Laurelton (E) Extension

SE Queens is very dense and doesn't have a direct one-seat ride to Manhattan considering all LIRR service only goes to Atlantic Terminal. This (E) would be a boon for residents living there and allows LIRR service to be shifted to St. Albans. 

Triboro RX

A very important crosstown route that reduces the need to take slow buses or backtrack on subways. It also provides transit access in East Flatbush and Canarsie. 

Long Island Expwy Branch 

A huge transit desert in NE Queens that experiences long commutes to Manhattan, which is mix of low/medium density housing. I would first do it as an extension of the (R)

Throgs Neck branch of SAS

This SLIGHTLY beats RBB as a priority. Throgs Neck is miles from the (6) and solely relies on buses. This line would serve it, along with serving Hunts Point and Soundview. 

So to sum it up, RBB should not be as a high priority, but still be built. I would say RBB should be in a mid or long term expansion plan. Just very low on a mid term plan and very high for the long term. 

 

 

 

 

Are we factoring cost into the equation? All of these would be useful indeed. Beside's the SAS which has to get done. The RBB and RX seem to be the lowest hanging fruit that $1.2 Billion a mile price tag with the SAS could go along way on existing right of ways  that might cover half the RBB minus tunnel portal and ramp-downs. (E)  To Rosedale as well maximum impact for the lowest cost, anything with existing infrastructure should be looked at. Did they do a EIS for the RBB yet? I'm late to the convo.. but could a CBTC Queens Blvd handle the extra trains?

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There is a study aupposedly due out then the mayor says he will decide on what to do with his master's pet project

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9 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said:

There is a study aupposedly due out then the mayor says he will decide on what to do with his master's pet project

Be interesting to see saved time especially local Queens trips.  Jamaica, Flushing to Rockaways, the Peninsula seems to be seeing growth and development, especially on the eastern end.. Woodhaven corridor to Midtown as well. 

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On 12/10/2017 at 12:38 AM, BreeddekalbL said:

There is a study aupposedly due out then the mayor says he will decide on what to do with his master's pet project

If I could pick 2 reactions I'd pick both Up vote and LMAO for this one

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1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said:

If I could pick 2 reactions I'd pick both Up vote and LMAO for this one

Lol follow the money on that damn queensway 

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