LGA Link N Train Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share #426 Posted January 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, N6 Limited said: I sorta made a joke about it a little while ago. Didn't know there was an actual plan I was the first one here to Introduce it, look back at page 16 where someone said that RPA was trash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 21, 2018 Share #427 Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, LGA Link N train said: I was the first one here to Introduce it, look back at page 16 where someone said that RPA was trash I saw their suggestion on this page for the MTA to retire diesel service vehicles, but how would they get around the system if there is no power (for like third rail replacement, flooding, etc)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 21, 2018 Share #428 Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Kosliwitz at it again... you can have your transit but not at my expense the train would run in their backyards Man.. they extended their property illegally into the row, also people in bayside have the lirr row right next to their backyard.. http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/think-tank-sees-a-split-of-both-rail-and-park/article_140d5296-8f39-550c-846d-85e20d5fd543.html?TNNoMobile Edited January 21, 2018 by BreeddekalbL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 21, 2018 Share #429 Posted January 21, 2018 That's the city's fault for allowing development so close to the row. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 21, 2018 Share #430 Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: Kosliwitz at it again... you can have your transit but not at my expense the train would run in their backyards Man.. they extended their property illegally into the row, also people in bayside have the lirr row right next to their backyard.. http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/think-tank-sees-a-split-of-both-rail-and-park/article_140d5296-8f39-550c-846d-85e20d5fd543.html?TNNoMobile I think she knows some people will see a big property loss if the RBB went through because some people did illegally do that and are looking at massive losses if so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 21, 2018 Share #431 Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Wallyhorse said: I think she knows some people will see a big property loss if the RBB went through because some people did illegally do that and are looking at massive losses if so. It never belonged to them to begin with. They would be breaking even if anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share #432 Posted January 21, 2018 9 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: Kosliwitz at it again... you can have your transit but not at my expense the train would run in their backyards Man.. they extended their property illegally into the row, also people in bayside have the lirr row right next to their backyard.. http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/think-tank-sees-a-split-of-both-rail-and-park/article_140d5296-8f39-550c-846d-85e20d5fd543.html?TNNoMobile (Sigh) this is the first thing I read in the morning. Despite how nice the Queensway looks (heck I would even visit it myself) I still oppose to it 4 hours ago, Wallyhorse said: I think she knows some people will see a big property loss if the RBB went through because some people did illegally do that and are looking at massive losses if so. And it's their fault for illegally squatting on the property. They shouldn't have done that to begin with, I think Friends of the Queensway is supporting them if you closely think about it 1 hour ago, CenSin said: It never belonged to them to begin with. They would be breaking even if anything. Breaking the Law? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coney Island Av Posted January 21, 2018 Share #433 Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) The only reason why these people even want the QueensWay is to continue having illegal backyards. When ya'll bring up the QueensWay, it makes the part of my body that actually agrees on building it more superior than the other, which doesn't want to build RBB. But so far, Koslowitz and her supporters are currently losing. The study would be carried out eventually, and knowing the MTA, would list subway as an option for reactivation. If our mayor leans our way, the subway side would prevail. Edited January 21, 2018 by Coney Island Av 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 21, 2018 Share #434 Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said: Breaking the Law? Define: break even 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 21, 2018 Share #435 Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Coney Island Av said: The only reason why these people even want the QueensWay is to continue having illegal backyards. When ya'll bring up the QueensWay, it makes the part of my body that actually agrees on building it more superior than the other, which doesn't want to build RBB. But so far, Koslowitz and her supporters are currently losing. The study would be carried out eventually, and knowing the MTA, would list subway as an option for reactivation. If our mayor leans our way, the subway side would prevail. I agree that you will have to build one or the other what makes them think there can be peaceful cohesion? Cause i dont want to see an article years from now that says ohhh we should have built the rbb as subway etc. Yes the mayor showed his cards and says if the study says it should be a transit asset i will support it (which i think is a trap) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 22, 2018 Share #436 Posted January 22, 2018 The city is having a war on vehicles and wants to implement congestion pricing, they're going to be more in favor of transit projects that reduce car trips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 22, 2018 Share #437 Posted January 22, 2018 18 hours ago, N6 Limited said: The city is having a war on vehicles and wants to implement congestion pricing, they're going to be more in favor of transit projects that reduce car trips. Hopefully you are right.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted January 23, 2018 Share #438 Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/21/2018 at 7:48 PM, N6 Limited said: The city is having a war on vehicles and wants to implement congestion pricing, they're going to be more in favor of transit projects that reduce car trips. ...which means they’ll build the highest impact projects, not scenic lines via parkland to nowhere. A decent list of subway expansion priorities: 1. SAS 2. Queens Bypass 3. Third avenue 4. Utica/nostrand 5 RX Note project not on that list — the RBB. Would you like if I quoted all of my analysis past of why this is a frankly idiotic waste of money so you can read more inconvenient truths? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 23, 2018 Share #439 Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, RR503 said: ...which means they’ll build the highest impact projects, not scenic lines via parkland to nowhere. A decent list of subway expansion priorities: 1. SAS 2. Queens Bypass 3. Third avenue 4. Utica/nostrand 5 RX Note project not on that list — the RBB. Would you like if I quoted all of my analysis past of why this is a frankly idiotic waste of money so you can read more inconvenient truths? The Flushing Line was built through farm land to nowhere 2. If they implement Freedom Ticket or City Zone Subway fare with smart cards then a Queens Bypass would not be necessary. 5) Rx can be merged with Third Ave (if not SAS) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted January 23, 2018 Share #440 Posted January 23, 2018 1 minute ago, N6 Limited said: The Flushing Line was built through farm land to nowhere 2. If they implement Freedom Ticket or City Zone Subway fare with smart cards then a Queens Bypass would not be necessary. 5) Rx can be merged with Third Ave (if not SAS) The RBB is being built through parkland to nowhere. If you don’t see the difference, please go do some reading. I’m with you on 2, but RX can’t be merged with the subway. It has to be FRA compliant, and anyway, why screw 3rd avenuers with a circumferential route when you — for the first time in 70 years — have trunk cap in Manhattan... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted January 23, 2018 Share #441 Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, RR503 said: why screw 3rd avenuers with a circumferential route when you — for the first time in 70 years — have trunk cap in Manhattan... Agreed. 3Av should be IND spec, splitting to SAS and a crosstown to LGA and wherever else in Q/Bk a crosstown like would be useful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted January 23, 2018 Share #442 Posted January 23, 2018 I think rx is a waste, but isnt alongside a railroad row and would have to fall under the FRA? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share #443 Posted January 23, 2018 I feel as is the Queens Bypass is necessary (being a QBL rider myself) but I'm also very conflicted by it. RBB. All I can say is that since it should be used for rail, then take good advantage of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 23, 2018 Share #444 Posted January 23, 2018 3 hours ago, LGA Link N train said: I feel as is the Queens Bypass is necessary (being a QBL rider myself) but I'm also very conflicted by it. RBB. All I can say is that since it should be used for rail, then take good advantage of it. That's a stupid mindset. Everything costs money. Some things, like RBB, are not worth their money. 11 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: I think rx is a waste, but isnt alongside a railroad row and would have to fall under the FRA? Every time someone brings up this stupid topic it gets annoying to bring up the examples of subway lines running next to a railroad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 23, 2018 Share #445 Posted January 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, bobtehpanda said: That's a stupid mindset. Everything costs money. Some things, like RBB, are not worth their money. Every time someone brings up this stupid topic it gets annoying to bring up the examples of subway lines running next to a railroad. In Boston, In Washington, In Philadelphia. That said, TriboroRX Would probably have to be FRA compliant, as it would likely share tracks with the freight line, not just the ROW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted January 23, 2018 Share #446 Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said: In Boston, In Washington, In Philadelphia. That said, TriboroRX Would probably have to be FRA compliant, as it would likely share tracks with the freight line, not just the ROW. Philly where? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted January 23, 2018 Share #447 Posted January 23, 2018 PATCO. Technically outside of Philly, but the metropolitan area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted January 23, 2018 Share #448 Posted January 23, 2018 It’d have to share with freight. There’s no way those tunnels from FP north are being widened, nor the section from Flatbush to 62nd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share #449 Posted January 23, 2018 @bobtehpanda if RBB is "not worth their money" then what is it worth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRunRob Posted January 23, 2018 Share #450 Posted January 23, 2018 14 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said: I think rx is a waste, but isnt alongside a railroad row and would have to fall under the FRA? FRA/FTA ROW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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