BreeddekalbL Posted June 27, 2018 Share #826 Posted June 27, 2018 Slightly related Queensway proponent cousin Joe loses! https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/26/17506970/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-primary-new-york 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 6 Ave Local Posted June 27, 2018 Share #827 Posted June 27, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 5:06 PM, Coney Island Av said: The to Lefferts on the other hand necessitates a merge S/B at Grant and N/B at Rockaway Blvd, whereas only the to Astoria has none. We can remove the Grant and Rockaway merge by rerouting the to Fulton Local and ending it at Euclid. will go to Fulton Express 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted July 20, 2018 Author Share #828 Posted July 20, 2018 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s71YkYKDQJFWN4MXc2Jy-J1IaMsU91R6&usp=sharing For those who claim that RBB is wasted capacity, I thought about splitting the ROW south of Liberty in half. LIRR Trains in my proposal run straight to JFK without making any stops on the ROW. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted July 21, 2018 Share #829 Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s71YkYKDQJFWN4MXc2Jy-J1IaMsU91R6&usp=sharing For those who claim that RBB is wasted capacity, I thought about splitting the ROW south of Liberty in half. LIRR Trains in my proposal run straight to JFK without making any stops on the ROW. I can't see the map (or any map links posted today) -- could you take a screenshot? Edit: From what I understand, you're basically using the RBB to get LIRR from the main to the airport. What a great way to waste 2 billion. Either you're gonna have people transferring at Howard Beach to the AirTrain, or you're gonna spend even more $$$ building a new regional rail station under the spaghetti bowl. If you wanna improve airport access, you can: -increase off-peak Rockaway-bound service. -improve signage/circulation at Jamaica -resuscitate weekend service by cutting the to Queens Plaza, thus allowing to run 7.5 tph instead of 5 Given the lack of commuter transportation in key areas of the city (Manhattan's East Side, Utica, 3rd Ave in the Bx, outer Queens) I really think spending money on airport links is not the way to go for now -- unless it can be incorporated into some generally beneficial plan, which this is not. Edited July 21, 2018 by RR503 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted July 21, 2018 Share #830 Posted July 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, RR503 said: I can't see the map (or any map links posted today) -- could you take a screenshot? You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. In this scenario, you take a LIRR train to terminal 5. If you're not going to Terminal 5, you transfer to the AirTrain to get to your terminal. Congratulations, you've spent billions of dollars so that 90% of people still take the AirTrain. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
officiallyliam Posted July 21, 2018 Share #831 Posted July 21, 2018 5 hours ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: For those who claim that RBB is wasted capacity, I thought about splitting the ROW south of Liberty in half. LIRR Trains in my proposal run straight to JFK without making any stops on the ROW. It's still a waste of capacity; you're just wasting LIRR capacity instead of subway capacity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted July 21, 2018 Share #832 Posted July 21, 2018 5 hours ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s71YkYKDQJFWN4MXc2Jy-J1IaMsU91R6&usp=sharing For those who claim that RBB is wasted capacity, I thought about splitting the ROW south of Liberty in half. LIRR Trains in my proposal run straight to JFK without making any stops on the ROW. Light rail paralleling the Belt & SSP pkwys to Jamaica or Mineola to reduce congestion > LIRR to JFK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted July 23, 2018 Share #833 Posted July 23, 2018 It would be expensive as hell to restore the LIRR cause you have subway ROW at south end 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted July 24, 2018 Share #834 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) You’d have to discontinue service to the Rockaways to bring back the LIRR. Not like it matters, because they don’t want the Rockaway branches back anyway. Nothing’s really changed from the 1950s/early 1960s about that. Edited July 24, 2018 by T to Dyre Avenue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted July 27, 2018 Share #835 Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 12:19 PM, T to Dyre Avenue said: You’d have to discontinue service to the Rockaways to bring back the LIRR. Not like it matters, because they don’t want the Rockaway branches back anyway. Nothing’s really changed from the 1950s/early 1960s about that. plus you will get the queensway crowd screaming SEE we told you etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share #836 Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/24/2018 at 12:19 PM, T to Dyre Avenue said: You’d have to discontinue service to the Rockaways to bring back the LIRR. Not like it matters, because they don’t want the Rockaway branches back anyway. Nothing’s really changed from the 1950s/early 1960s about that. That's not what I proposed. I proposed splitting the ROW in half, meaning in a way for the to use one half and the LIRR using the other half. 8 minutes ago, BreeddekalbL said: plus you will get the queensway crowd screaming SEE we told you etc I see your point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted July 27, 2018 Share #837 Posted July 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: That's not what I proposed. I proposed splitting the ROW in half, meaning in a way for the to use one half and the LIRR using the other half. I see your point. That will not be feasible the cost will balloon and i agree in their rebuttal they are screaming that they want to bring the LIRR back etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted July 28, 2018 Share #838 Posted July 28, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 2:09 PM, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: That's not what I proposed. I proposed splitting the ROW in half, meaning in a way for the to use one half and the LIRR using the other half. What advantage would there be in splitting half the ROW for the and the other half for the LIRR versus just having subway over the whole ROW? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted August 3, 2018 Share #839 Posted August 3, 2018 What I think they should do, is simply extend the 'free zone' of the Airtrain to the Howard Beach station, so that it replicates the one fare ride that used to exist when it was a bus making the connection. Whether they should do it at Jamaica also, is another matter, with its own pro's and con's..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted August 3, 2018 Share #840 Posted August 3, 2018 1 hour ago, traildriver said: What I think they should do, is simply extend the 'free zone' of the Airtrain to the Howard Beach station, so that it replicates the one fare ride that used to exist when it was a bus making the connection. Whether they should do it at Jamaica also, is another matter, with its own pro's and con's..... Who's going to pay the Port Authority? The MTA? Good luck selling that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted August 4, 2018 Share #841 Posted August 4, 2018 7 hours ago, bobtehpanda said: Who's going to pay the Port Authority? The MTA? Good luck selling that. I don't know....who paid the Port Authority when the bus to Howard Beach that served the long term parking was free? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share #842 Posted October 26, 2018 http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-edit-queens-rail-20181024-story.html Welp, more news. I still think that this ROW should be taken advantage of. It's now or never. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted October 26, 2018 Share #843 Posted October 26, 2018 Thing is, it wouldn't be a one-seat ride to JFK Airport. Similar to the actual Train to the Plane, any trip to Howard Beach would require another leg to get to the terminals. We would just trade those buses for the present AirTrain. And even if we were to ignore the semantics of it all, using Rockaway Beach as an airport connector would be incredibly useless as we already have that. It's called the mainline to Jamaica, then change to the AirTrain. As a standard subway or LIRR link, it might work, but there are a bunch of other issues with that, most of which have already been outlined in previous pages of this thread. Above all though, it needs those intermediate stops to be useful. Without them, this would be even more of a pointless endeavor than the proposal is already. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted October 27, 2018 Share #844 Posted October 27, 2018 On a FB group were debating the other merits of restoration as in intra borough travel, and the fact that the q52/53 is getting fat capacity wise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted November 5, 2018 Share #845 Posted November 5, 2018 And still we wait for the results (or do we?)... http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions/queenswide/rockaway-branch-study-still-delayed/article_b03d25d9-bf81-5c16-a0d1-c12e5821638b.html#.W93qQz1DrG8.link 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted November 6, 2018 Share #846 Posted November 6, 2018 37 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: And still we wait for the results (or do we?)... http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions/queenswide/rockaway-branch-study-still-delayed/article_b03d25d9-bf81-5c16-a0d1-c12e5821638b.html#.W93qQz1DrG8.link I think it's easier for everyone at this point to see the cracks in the wall this plan presents. It'll be costly, delayed, little planned and frankly seems more of a vanity project with how few it may benefit. I initially supported this plan but no longer do so, and with the delay continuing on, it seems to a rough road to get the portion back into service. I actually contacted an advocate for this plan in the Rockaway's (Stacy Pheffer Amato) and have currently received no email back. We'll have to wait and see... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #847 Posted November 6, 2018 57 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said: And still we wait for the results (or do we?)... http://m.qchron.com/mobile/editions/queenswide/rockaway-branch-study-still-delayed/article_b03d25d9-bf81-5c16-a0d1-c12e5821638b.html#.W93qQz1DrG8.link Ok is it me, or are the delays of studies involved for this ROW beginning to become sispicious? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted November 15, 2018 Share #848 Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) Um hello! you are impeding the way for a NORTH SOUTH TRANSIT LINK! http://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/friends-trust-have-will-for-queensway/article_ce9130be-2c76-5c8e-9478-9aa25a59ce99.html?TNNoMobile Quote She added that the QueensWay project offers an obvious solution to these transportation issues through connecting subway stations. The Queensway website says commuters could save 15 to 20 minutes each way to destinations like Midtown and Downtown Brooklyn. How does it help transit issues?! it's a park Edited November 15, 2018 by BreeddekalbL 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted November 18, 2018 Share #849 Posted November 18, 2018 I found the information on the study in the Capital Program Dashboard. http://web.mta.info/capitaldashboard/allframenew_pi.php?PROJNUM=l70904nj&PLTYPE=6 It is under the LIRR section–Usage as an LIRR Branch seems to be the preferred option. It is listed under "Program Development" so it is hard to find. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted November 18, 2018 Share #850 Posted November 18, 2018 The chatter I'm hearing suggests that Governor Magpie wants the RBB to be NYC's 'airport link' route. What a waste of money on a corridor with already-questionable utility... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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