GojiMet86 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #1 Posted September 19, 2017 http://bronx.news12.com/story/36390645/mta-will-add-bike-racks-to-bx23-q50-buses MTA will add bike racks to Bx23, Q50 buses THE BRONX - The MTA announced it will add bike racks to its Bx23 and Q50 buses. The new addition is part of the MTA's pilot program 'Bike and Ride,' which launched in 2015. The program gives cyclists an opportunity to reach destinations they normally would not have access to exclusively using a bicycle. The racks, known as 10-second brackets, will hold two bikes at a time and be placed on the front bumper of the bus. They are expected to be added beginning in Spring 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #2 Posted September 19, 2017 Like I always say, why is it that every TA across the nation has that installed and not NYMTA? They should've installed them since the Novas came into service back in 2009 Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #3 Posted September 19, 2017 They're probably worried about dwell times. Notice that the S53/93 have them, but the S79 (which is busier than both of them) doesn't have them. Maybe as they expand them, they'll make the evaluation on whether it's worth putting them on every bus in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyzz1416 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #4 Posted September 19, 2017 Bad idea that will already slow commute even more Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #5 Posted September 19, 2017 Bad idea that will already slow commute even more Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Agreed. The people are biking already. Let them bike and call it a day. The wants buses to do EVERYTHING but what they're supposed to do, which is MOVE and serve BUS riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 19, 2017 Share #6 Posted September 19, 2017 Slightly off topic, but how many buses have bike racks as of now? I know of 7052-7089, but I know I missed few Novas likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #7 Posted September 19, 2017 The Q50 spends an incredible amount of time at its terminals, so dwell times (assuming that people are boarding where the majority of customers do, at terminals) shouldn't do that much impact things. The point made above ^^ is stupid: the goal is to encourage biking within neighborhoods for commuters who would otherwise be in cars causing traffic, not over fifteen mile cross-borough stretches. If this means fewer people driving around Co-Op City and more people biking, everything gets more livable. Now, I wonder if they'll be pushing the remaining RTSes out of ECH for this. Can't see them using a new bike rack just for RTSes when they have them built for O7s, but hey, maybe the MBTA can loan us some of theirs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #8 Posted September 19, 2017 The Q50 spends an incredible amount of time at its terminals, so dwell times (assuming that people are boarding where the majority of customers do, at terminals) shouldn't do that much impact things. The point made above ^^ is stupid: the goal is to encourage biking within neighborhoods for commuters who would otherwise be in cars causing traffic, not over fifteen mile cross-borough stretches. If this means fewer people driving around Co-Op City and more people biking, everything gets more livable. That's right so let's slow down buses even more with bikes... People have to get the bikes off of the buses too you know... With some of the wait times between buses, you would be better off just biking anyway. Anyone who waits 30 minutes for a bus is an idiot when they have a bike right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Express Bus Operator Posted September 19, 2017 Share #9 Posted September 19, 2017 These bike racks will be abused and causing delays especially with the amount of bicyclists the city has cumulated. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 19, 2017 Share #10 Posted September 19, 2017 That's right so let's slow down buses even more with bikes... People have to get the bikes off of the buses too you know... With some of the wait times between buses, you would be better off just biking anyway. Anyone who waits 30 minutes for a bus is an idiot when they have a bike right there. 1. The Whitestone Bridge doesn't have a bike path AFAIK 2. Other operators have shown that bike racks don't slow down buses. 3. The person with the bike can take it off the rack while the other people are getting off you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted September 19, 2017 Share #11 Posted September 19, 2017 Slightly off topic, but how many buses have bike racks as of now? I know of 7052-7089, but I know I missed few Novas likely. Although I'm not in Staten Island or Bay Ridge on frequent basis. Thru pictures there are some from Yukon and Charleston novas have bike racks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #12 Posted September 19, 2017 1. The Whitestone Bridge doesn't have a bike path AFAIK 2. Other operators have shown that bike racks don't slow down buses. 1. Well that's nice. I wonder just how much ridership they've generated on the lines with bike racks, and where is the money coming from to provide this? For an agency that constantly cries broke, this doesn't seem like a move that makes any sense right now. They should use the money to hire more fare inspectors to crack down on fare beating. They're spending more money that they don't have to spend. 2. Other operators aren't the . The should be looking for ways to speed up service and run their buses on time. If they focused more on that then I wouldn't mind the bikes as much. They're hemorrhaging ridership, and they're worried about the occasional bike rider? Their priorities are warped to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted September 19, 2017 Share #13 Posted September 19, 2017 Eventually if you give buses the double vike racks,they will eventually need to give them the 3 bike rack for the crowded routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted September 19, 2017 Share #14 Posted September 19, 2017 Once upon a time, the same line(s) that's being discussed had bike racks, they proved to be very successful.With how fast the Bx23 and Q50 is nowadays(with the exception of the neverending construction on Main Street), the line will be fine with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted September 19, 2017 Share #15 Posted September 19, 2017 Once upon a time, the same line(s) that's being discussed had bike racks, they proved to be very successful. With how fast the Bx23 and Q50 is nowadays(with the exception of the neverending construction on Main Street), the line will be fine with them. Thank you for the helpful context on this--relevant when everybody complains about something that isn't even a big deal or even a new thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 19, 2017 Share #16 Posted September 19, 2017 So I had a guy with a bike come on my S53 today... Put the bike in the rack as others were boarding, stayed at the front of the bus and was the first person off at Fort Hamilton Parkway to take off his bike while others got off. No time wasted... I imagine the Q50 will be the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #17 Posted September 20, 2017 So I had a guy with a bike come on my S53 today... Put the bike in the rack as others were boarding, stayed at the front of the bus and was the first person off at Fort Hamilton Parkway to take off his bike while others got off. No time wasted... I imagine the Q50 will be the same... But is there actually a potential bike ridership base? And what lead them to believe there was in the first place? I can only think of Pelham Bay Park. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #18 Posted September 20, 2017 The Q50 goes over the Whitestone Bridge and the Bx23 runs down the Bruckner (?) for a bit so maybe that had something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted September 20, 2017 Share #19 Posted September 20, 2017 Slightly off topic, but how many buses have bike racks as of now? I know of 7052-7089, but I know I missed few Novas likely. 8241-8256 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted September 20, 2017 Share #20 Posted September 20, 2017 But is there actually a potential bike ridership base? And what lead them to believe there was in the first place? I can only think of Pelham Bay Park. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app You'd be surprised at how such a base would rise. There wasn't much of a base for the S53/93 at first, but now look at it. Yes, there is potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #21 Posted September 20, 2017 So I had a guy with a bike come on my S53 today... Put the bike in the rack as others were boarding, stayed at the front of the bus and was the first person off at Fort Hamilton Parkway to take off his bike while others got off. No time wasted... I imagine the Q50 will be the same... You got a rider who was competent and a bus that wasn't too crowded. The other thing I think about is, these people must stink like hell. They're all sweaty riding a bike and then they come on the bus to ride. No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biGC323232 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #22 Posted September 20, 2017 You got a rider who was competent and a bus that wasn't too crowded. The other thing I think about is, these people must stink like hell. They're all sweaty riding a bike and then they come on the bus to ride. No thank you. Lol....Some stink w/o riding a bike...But that depends if one decided to wash before bike riding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 20, 2017 Share #23 Posted September 20, 2017 Lol....Some stink w/o riding a bike...But that depends if one decided to wash before bike riding... Tell me about it. It seems okay now because there's air conditioning, but when it gets cooler and the stupid B/Os decide to crank up the heat on those little 40 footer buses, it'll be a sauna and then you'll have all of those people stinking up the bus, PLUS the bike riders coming on stinking. The S53 is infamous for this. There are a few bus lines that I simply refuse to ride because the drivers crank up the heat like they're going crazy, no one opens up a damn window and then you can't get to any of windows to open one, and when you finally do, they're incredibly hard to get open. A few times I got an S53, it was so hot and packed I had to get off early. I think the artics are a bit better because there's more room and for some reason slightly better air flow. Everyone gets on with their body heat, so you don't need all of that heat like that anyway. The B/Os have their own little climate control at the front, plus that window that slides open so they're comfortable while the rest of the bus swelters. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share #24 Posted September 20, 2017 Jesus, any excuse not to have bikes on buses...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statty Posted September 21, 2017 Share #25 Posted September 21, 2017 Anyone know how the bikes get on and off the rack? Is it just a simple lock? Would there be any chance for the bike rack to have an issue when taking the bike off? Let's say someone is trying to get their bike off the rack, but it's stuck for whatever reason. Or lets say the bike isn't properly placed onto the rack and falls while in-motion.This would cause a headache for both the driver and other passengers IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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