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3 minutes ago, Lance said:

And the problem with that is...?

Shifting gears, for those interested, 1811-15 are now eqipped with the Lexington Ave yard markers. The cars also have the refresh upgrades except for the split standee poles.

So they have the arrows at the doors that direct passengers into the cars?

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1 hour ago, JeremiahC99 said:

That just shifts the sharing of cars from the (2) and (5) to the (2) and (3). You just created another combined strip map. There will never be a pair of lines that share cars but has a single line strip map. That’s why combined strip maps and FIND displays were invented.

 

32 minutes ago, Lance said:

And the problem with that is...?

Shifting gears, for those interested, 1811-15 are now eqipped with the Lexington Ave yard markers. The cars also have the refresh upgrades except for the split standee poles.

Right. Any combined (2)(3) strip map would be relatively short-lived anyway. Per the Fast Forward plan, the 7th Avenue Line, including the Lenox Avenue branch, will be scheduled to get CBTC during the second five years of the plan. So they will have to begin planning for the replacements for the R62/R62A cars during the first five years. I would think the replacement cars will have FIND displays.

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On ‎8‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 3:31 PM, jon2305 said:

I guess so SMH...

So far the list of green stickers include: R62As (1686-1690)(1701-1705)(1751-1755 Note: 1751 still has only 1 purple left)(1811-1815)(1966-1970)(2006-2010) (2471-2475).

I saw 2006-2010 and 2471-2475 today in the same train, green stickers and all. Interesting how they seem to focus on the yard stickers on the R62/R62A cars, yet not on the R142/R142A/R188 cars. I wonder why that is.

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Apparently, the reason they're using the green stickers is because the train are being maintained at East 180th/Unionport. I'm not sure how true this is tho.

It can't be. Why would they need any R62As on the (5) ? It has plenty of R142s to make service. It's not like 20 years ago, when the (5) ran all Redbirds and they needed a couple trains of R62As to work in OPTO on the late night shuttle.

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5 hours ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

Interesting how they seem to focus on the yard stickers on the R62/R62A cars, yet not on the R142/R142A/R188 cars. I wonder why that is.

Don't quote me on this, but I think it's to help get rid of the oddball red sticker (ex-240 St) cars that exist in Westchester. The change of the ex-Corona stickers to green also helps identity the green lex line, just like 240 St and Corona also do with their color stickers.

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2 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Don't quote me on this, but I think it's to help get rid of the oddball red sticker (ex-240 St) cars that exist in Westchester. The change of the ex-Corona stickers to green also helps identity the green lex line, just like 240 St and Corona also do with their color stickers.

That is the one. Also, on some 5-car formations, there are cars mixed with red and purple (both Corona single units) together. The green sticker will be placed by the mixed colors out of the trainset. 

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21 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Don't quote me on this, but I think it's to help get rid of the oddball red sticker (ex-240 St) cars that exist in Westchester. The change of the ex-Corona stickers to green also helps identity the green lex line, just like 240 St and Corona also do with their color stickers.

Maybe so, but I’m surprised they put the green stickers on 2471-75, the highest numbered R62A cars. They’ve always been on the (1), except possibly for the year after 9/11, when the (3) ran from 148th St to 14th St only, and mostly with red-sticker R62As while the (1) ran predominantly with blue-sticker R62As that normally ran on the (3). I guess now they’ll be on the (6).

18 hours ago, VIP said:

In 2018 why does the color matter?? I don’t see the R142’s/A’s with colored stickers or R160’s...

I have to agree. Now if the A Division fleet were made up entirely of R62/R62A cars, then it would probably make more sense to continue having colored yard stickers on the cars. But we don’t see them on the R142 or R142A cars. In the early days, some R142 cars did have colored stickers under their number plates, but those had a totally different meaning from the colored yard stickers used on the R62 and Redbird cars. The R142 colored stickers signified some kind of mechanical modification. Eventually, they were removed, and no visible attempt so far has been made to employ color coded yard stickers on the R142 or R142A cars.

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5 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

People are being too Obsessive-Compulsive about 2471-2475 being at Westchester. As long as it's an R62A, that's all that matters.

If it’s an R62A and nothing else, then we can argue why any of them need Yard stickers. It’s not obsessive, it’s obvious, New York City Subway cars are Numbered for a reason, and if the R62A’s are gonna be scattered inconsistently we all have a green light to chime in and disagree. 

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16 hours ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

I have to agree. Now if the A Division fleet were made up entirely of R62/R62A cars, then it would probably make more sense to continue having colored yard stickers on the cars. But we don’t see them on the R142 or R142A cars. In the early days, some R142 cars did have colored stickers under their number plates, but those had a totally different meaning from the colored yard stickers used on the R62 and Redbird cars. The R142 colored stickers signified some kind of mechanical modification. Eventually, they were removed, and no visible attempt so far has been made to employ color coded yard stickers on the R142 or R142A cars.

That's been my thought since I heard of this relabeling project in the first place. The yard stickers made perfect sense when the (2) and (5) (notorious car sharing lines) both used redbirds and the 62s/62As were predominately on the (1)(3)(4) and (6) lines and those cars can be easily confused with each other at a casual glance. Nowadays, only the (1) and (3) have that potential for misplaced cars, whereas the (6) does not interact with any other line that uses 62s or 62As in any fashion. This whole thing sounds like some idea from the suits that nobody vetoed on grounds of pointlessness.

On a separate issue, has anyone seen a full ten car set of refurbished 62As in service? I ask because I've yet to come across one. One half of the train always looks all bright and shiny while the other half remains drab and depressing.

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21 minutes ago, Lance said:

That's been my thought since I heard of this relabeling project in the first place. The yard stickers made perfect sense when the (2) and (5) (notorious car sharing lines) both used redbirds and the 62s/62As were predominately on the (1)(3)(4) and (6) lines and those cars can be easily confused with each other at a casual glance. Nowadays, only the (1) and (3) have that potential for misplaced cars, whereas the (6) does not interact with any other line that uses 62s or 62As in any fashion. This whole thing sounds like some idea from the suits that nobody vetoed on grounds of pointlessness.

On a separate issue, has anyone seen a full ten car set of refurbished 62As in service? I ask because I've yet to come across one. One half of the train always looks all bright and shiny while the other half remains drab and depressing.

Recently on the (1), I've seen a few sets like 2306-2310/2156-2160 were recently in consist so I was able to see the white LED lights in 1-(10-car consist). Nothing special to be honest but, R62As definitely don't look utterly depressing with those lights as oppose to a lot of them that still do have the older florescent lights.

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9 hours ago, S78 via Hylan said:

And as long as each yard has enough trains to make service, that’s ALL that matters.

It seems otherwise, they’re spending money to update rollsigns and put stickers under number plates... if these machines are to just make service, why they go to incredible lengths to update the cars’ cosmetics? What they need to spend money on is maintenance! That’s ALL that Really MATTERS.

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35 minutes ago, VIP said:

It seems otherwise, they’re spending money to update rollsigns and put stickers under number plates... if these machines are to just make service, why they go to incredible lengths to update the cars’ cosmetics? What they need to spend money on is maintenance! That’s ALL that Really MATTERS.

No need to get so worked up about it. 

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Units from the Shuttle previously Livonia: 1940-1952-27 and 31, Corona leftover unit 1904 in the middle: new 5-car (6) train set. This is the next mixed consist as 1 car out of 5 has LED signs. Also, they sport green stickers with warning signs.

The total is 44 trains.

The total of 20 of Shuttle units are left the same: just 1921-2-5 as the 3-car train.. with 1939 as the swapped unit.

*something before one more day of August until September.

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Greetings, everyone. September 1st 2018 list: It's back to school season, so enjoy summer while you can for a few more weeks. Couple of changes to see. 

 

IRT A Division, North lines of NYC Subway: 

(1) 240 St Yard

Kawasaki R62: 1306-1310 and 1431-1434:1438, Bombardier R62A1826-1830, 1841-1900, 2156-2220, 2226-2345, 2351-2455 (355)

Total trains: 36

 

Livonia Yard
(3) Kawasaki R62: :
1301 -1305, 1311-1365, 1371-1430, 1441-1625: 305 cars -  30 trains  

(S) 42 St: 1921-1922/1925, 1928-1930, 1932-1933, 1935-1937, 1939, 1941, 1945-1946, 1950-1951, 1953, 1955-1956 - 20 cars total (3-4-3)

 

(2)(5) : Bombardier R142 Subway cars        

239 St - 6301-6710: 410 cars: 41 trains

E.180 St/Unionport: 6711-7115: 405 cars - 40 trains

 

(4) Jerome Av Yard (By the Tracey Towers)

Bombardier R142: 1101-1250, 7116-7180: 215 cars- 21 trains

Kawasaki R142A: 7591-7660, 7666-7810: 215 cars- 21 trains

Total trains: 42

 

(6)<6> Westchester Yard

Bombardier R62A: 1651-1825, 1831-1840, 1911-1920, *1931-1927-1904-1952-1940, 1942-1938-1926-1924-1934, 1943-1944+1947-1949, 1954:1957-1960, 1961-2155, 2221-2225, 2346-2350, 2456-2475

Total trains: 44

 

(7)<7> Corona Yard

Kawasaki R188 *CBTC Flushing line

Converted sets: 7211-7590, C car units: 7899-7936 (38), Factory made units: 7811-7898  (8)

Total 11-car trains: 46

 

*The remaining single R62As are for work service/to be determined: 1901, 1902, 1903, 1905, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1910, 1923

 

Notes: 

1921-1922, 1925 are grouped together for the seatless experiment train with 1939 moved to the Shuttle, swapped units from the shuttle are 1927, 1931, 1940 and 1952 with 1904 from Corona Yard paired in the middle of the 5-car train. 

Made up of former Corona units, 240 St and Shuttle units: The total of the (6) is similar to the (7) with their R188s. The difference is that 2 trains were lost from the count of 45-46 after SAS ridership on the East Side of Manhattan, (Q) line. There's a loss and gain difference after the (6) and (7) switch . 

 

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Division  (BMT/IND): South lines of NYC Subway 

(A)(C) Rockaway (S)  - 207 St / Pitkin Yard 

Budd R32:  3354-3355, 3360-3361, 3376-3377, 3380-3381, 3384-3385, 3388-3389, 3394-3397, 3400-3401, 3404-3405, 3410-3411, 3414-3417, 3424-3433, 3436-3443, 3446-3449, 3452-3453, 3460-3461, 3472-3473, 3484-3485, 3488-3489, 3496-3497, 3512-3515, 3518-3519, 3522-3523, 3574-3575, 3586-3587, 3590-3591, 3606-3607, 3610-3611, 3618-3619, 3624-3625, 3654-3655, 3660-3661, 3682-3683, 3688-3689, 3706-3707, 3714-3719, 3728-3729, 3730-3733, 3738-3739, 3770-3771, 3782-3783, 3792-3793, 3798-3799, 3804-3807,  3810-3811, 3818-3823, 3829-3829, 3834-3835, 3840-3841, 3864-3865, 3872-3873, 3876-3879, 3888-3889, 3896-3897, 3924-3925, 3928-3929, 3932-3933

3383:3890, 3444:3777, 3445:3468, 3520:3891, 3548:3593, 3644:3621, 3658:3471, 3419:3740 (Total count: 166)

Alstom R160A-1 (made up of 4-car sets) : 8585-8652, 9947-9958, 9963-9974  (Total count: 92)

 

Pullman R46 5846-5953, 5958-6149, 6156-6205, 6208:6210, 6212:6214,6216:6218, 6220:6222, 6224:6226, 6228:6230, 6232:6234, 6236:6238, 6240:6242, 6244:6246, 6248:6250, 6252:6254, 6256:6258, [6152-6153:6206-6207] 

*5954-57, 6074-77 on the G as a temporary loan

 

East New York Yard (J)(L)(M)(Z) 

Budd R32: 3454-3455, 3476-3477, 3500-3501, 3550-3551, 3578-3579, 3614-3615, 3646-3647, 3664-3665, 3670-3673, 3698-3699, 3708-3709, 3726-3727, 3736-3737, 3772-3775, 3778-3781, 3856-3857, 3870-3871, 3886-3887, 3894-3895, 3900-3901, 3912-3913, 3938-3939  3628:3669, 3650:3767, (54 cars In-total)

St. Louis R42: 4788-4817, 4820-4839 (50 cars In-total)

Kawasaki R143 (*CBTC 14 St-Canarsie Line) :  8101-8312 - 212 cars

Alstom R160A-1: (CBTC: 8313-8376), 8377-8584, 9943-9946, 9959-9962: Total cars- 280

Bombardier R179: 3050-3069, 3074-3141: 80 cars In-service / 88

 

 

Jamaica Yard (E)(F)(R)    

Pullman R46: 5482-5845 (364 cars)

Alstom R160A-2: 9238-9247, 9273-9442, 9483-9802 *Some R160A-2 feature the Cuomo wrapped scheme (490 cars)

Kawasaki R160B: 8773-8777, 8838-8842, 9108-9112, 9123-9142, 9153-9162, 9168-9172, 9178-9182, 9188-9192, 9203-9207, 9218-9222 (refurbished units),

9223-9232, 9803-9942 (210 cars)

 

Concourse Yard (D) 

Westinghouse R68: 2500-2775 (276 cars)

 

Coney Island Yard (B)(G)(N)(Q)(W) 

Westinghouse R68: 2776-2915 (140 cars), 2916-2924- units used on the Shuttle

Kawasaki R68A: 5001-5200 (200 cars) 

Alstom R160A-2/R160B: 8653-8712, 9233-9237, 9248-9272, 9443-9482 (A-2),  8713-8772, 8778-8837, 9103-9107, 9113-9122, 9143-9152, 9163-9167, 9173-9177, 9183-9187, 9193-9202, 9208-9217 (320 cars)

Siemens R160B: 8843-9102 (260 cars)

 

Notes: 
The (C) uses both 8 car 62 ft trains (R160A-1 or 32) and 75 ft trains (R46)

The (M) is 8-car 62 ft trains on weekdays. During the weekends (to Essex St), the train is 4-cars. 

The (G) Crosstown is 4 75 ft cars per train (R68)

 

*Other facts: Refuse R32 units: 3494-5, 3510-1, 3552-3, 3642-3, 3694-5

 

 

That's all. 

 

 

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3376-3377, 3396-3397, 3406-3407, 3426-3427, 3442-3443: ENY to 207 St

3430-3431, 3500-3501, 3550-3551, 3628-3669, 3900-3901: Also to 207 St

Remaining R32s on the (J)

3578-3579, 3650-3767, 3670-3671, 3698-3699, 3716-3717, 3736-3737, 3770-3775, 3778-3779, 3780-3781, 3870-3871, 3886-3887, 3912-3913, 3938-3939 (34 cars total, four sets) 

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On 9/9/2018 at 9:16 PM, Coney Island Av said:

3430 3431 is at East New York! 

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