EphraimB Posted February 8, 2018 Share #1 Posted February 8, 2018 I manipulated a current NYC subway map from a PDF using GIMP. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 8, 2018 Share #2 Posted February 8, 2018 I don't get it, what's changed? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosciusko Posted February 8, 2018 Share #3 Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Lawrence St said: I don't get it, what's changed? I think that's the joke... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted February 8, 2018 Share #4 Posted February 8, 2018 and express in Bk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted February 8, 2018 Share #5 Posted February 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: I don't get it, what's changed? exists exists and are local west of Myrtle Av The is extended to two new stations at Beach 12 St and Reads Lane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted February 8, 2018 Share #6 Posted February 8, 2018 Heh I find it rather amusing that the SAS is still truncated to 96 Street and that Cortlandt is still closed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted February 8, 2018 Share #7 Posted February 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Orion6025 said: Heh I find it rather amusing that the SAS is still truncated to 96 Street and that Cortlandt is still closed. Well he is being realistic 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted February 8, 2018 Share #8 Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, R68OnBroadway said: Well he is being realistic According to MTA, the Port Authority's ineptitude is what's keeping the station closed, so this isn't too far off from reality 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted February 8, 2018 Share #9 Posted February 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, EphraimB said: I manipulated a current NYC subway map from a PDF using GIMP. The express... I could see it operating that way. However, the express? I don't know, man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted February 8, 2018 Share #10 Posted February 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, EastFlatbushLarry said: According to MTA, the Port Authority's ineptitude is what's keeping the station closed, so this isn't too far off from reality 😂 Not sure whether to trust the PA or MTA here... both are lousy agencies that waste money on pet projects and always point fingers or claim NYC exceptionalism when confronted with issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted February 8, 2018 Share #11 Posted February 8, 2018 1 minute ago, EastFlatbushLarry said: The express... I could see it operating that way. However, the express? I don't know, man He probably means as a joke as in Sea Beach and Culver work is still not completed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted February 8, 2018 Share #12 Posted February 8, 2018 Just now, R68OnBroadway said: Not sure whether to trust the PA or MTA here... both are lousy agencies that waste money on pet projects and always point fingers or claim NYC exceptionalism when confronted with issues. Amen. I just read something on the Fulton Street Station fiasco being a pet project of some politician... Basically "forcing" the MTA's hand smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted February 8, 2018 Share #13 Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, R68OnBroadway said: He probably means as a joke as in Sea Beach and Culver work is still not completed 😂 don't laugh too hard, THAT could very well be too realistic (btw i had a authentic, out loud belly laugh reading that 😂) Edited February 8, 2018 by EastFlatbushLarry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted February 8, 2018 You overlooked which trains serve Lefferts Blvd now. And pay attention to the express and local services on the Fulton Street line as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share #15 Posted February 8, 2018 I've overlooked a lot of things on the Subway map. I still need to have the Z going express west of myrtle Avenue and operating full time, I need to have the Cortlandt station opened, I still need to extend the Q to 125 street, I need to make the <1> express, I need to extend the IRT Nostrand Avenue line to Coney Island - Stillwell Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 8, 2018 Share #16 Posted February 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, EphraimB said: You overlooked which trains serve Lefferts Blvd now. And pay attention to the express and local services on the Fulton Street line as well. You would need to install a fourth track between Rockaway Blvd & 80th Street), and have some way of bypassing Grant Avenue (unless you just run the trains straight through, SIR-style). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share #17 Posted February 8, 2018 I think there are tracks under Grant Avenue. The Culver line has 3 tracks by 18th Avenue and there used to be express service there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3F Posted February 8, 2018 Share #18 Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said: You would need to install a fourth track between Rockaway Blvd & 80th Street), and have some way of bypassing Grant Avenue (unless you just run the trains straight through, SIR-style). You could run a peak direction express to/from the Rockaways if the yard lead under Grant Avenue were to be connected to the Pitkin express tracks. For a peak direction express to go to/from Lefferts, the layout east of Rockaway Boulevard would need to be reworked. There's not much of a point in putting the Rockaway trains on the Liberty express track, though. The only way I see that track being useful is if the Liberty Avenue line is extended past Lefferts Boulevard into far-eastern Queens. Edited February 8, 2018 by P3F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 8, 2018 Share #19 Posted February 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, EphraimB said: I think there are tracks under Grant Avenue. The Culver line has 3 tracks by 18th Avenue and there used to be express service there. In both directions? That's my point, with 3 tracks you can only run express service in the peak direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosciusko Posted February 8, 2018 Share #20 Posted February 8, 2018 Are you on crack or something, on what planet does anything on this map happen by 2028? Also how on Earth are you going to do any of this? As for extending to Rockaway blvd: Not possible, It's a triple track el with no provisions for a platform at Rockaway blvd, a peak direction is possible in theory but it would have to bypass Rockaway blvd and go straight to Euclid. Expanding the to Reads Lane: Why? is there a demand for this? Why did you butcher the so much? whats the point of adding all those stops? express: probably not for reasons outlined in the other thread express: sure, why not 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: Z going express west of myrtle Avenue and operating full time ... <1> express With what tracks?? 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: extend the IRT Nostrand Avenue line to Coney Island - Stillwell Avenue. With what capacity? Stillwell ave. IIRC is already turning about as much as it can, also Stilwell ave is B division, and even if it wasn't that makes no sense. would be best off heading south on Flatlands ave. to Avenue U, maybe off to Neponsit. would be best off heading south on Nostrand and terminating at Shore Parkway. Maybe a express between Flatbush ave and Franklin ave if you're feeling optimistic. 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: I still need to extend the Q to 125 street You'd better get digging then lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share #21 Posted February 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, kosciusko said: As for extending to Rockaway blvd: Not possible, It's a triple track el with no provisions for a platform at Rockaway blvd, a peak direction is possible in theory but it would have to bypass Rockaway blvd and go straight to Euclid. They can redo it to have 4 tracks. The 18th Avenue Station on the Culver line has 3 tracks as well and there used to be express service there. 23 minutes ago, kosciusko said: Expanding the to Reads Lane: Why? is there a demand for this? I live off of Reads Lane and I have a crazy 20 minute walk to the train station. Plus, there's a grass median on Reads Lane which is a perfect place for an Elevated line. 23 minutes ago, kosciusko said: Why did you butcher the so much? whats the point of adding all those stops? I didn't touch the and line yet. All I did was take away the between Myrtle Avenue and Broadway Junction because construction on the Myrtle Avenue line will be long finished by then. 23 minutes ago, kosciusko said: express: probably not for reasons outlined in the other thread I'm sure they'll bring it back by some point. 25 minutes ago, kosciusko said: 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: Z going express west of myrtle Avenue and operating full time ... <1> express With what tracks?? They'll add new ones for express service. I'll probably save that for the 2038 subway map. There used to a skip-stop service that complemented the . I'm going to reintroduce it as the <>. 33 minutes ago, kosciusko said: 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: extend the IRT Nostrand Avenue line to Coney Island - Stillwell Avenue. With what capacity? Stillwell ave. IIRC is already turning about as much as it can, also Stilwell ave is B division, and even if it wasn't that makes no sense. would be best off heading south on Flatlands ave. to Avenue U, maybe off to Neponsit. would be best off heading south on Nostrand and terminating at Shore Parkway. Maybe a express between Flatbush ave and Franklin ave if you're feeling optimistic. I've seen proposals about extending the IRT Nostrand Avenue line. I'm sure they can add to Stillwell Avenue to make an IRT station as well. 36 minutes ago, kosciusko said: 1 hour ago, EphraimB said: I still need to extend the Q to 125 street You'd better get digging then lol I'm sure they'll be finished with Phase 2 by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68OnBroadway Posted February 8, 2018 Share #22 Posted February 8, 2018 6 hours ago, EphraimB said: I live off of Reads Lane and I have a crazy 20 minute walk to the train station. Plus, there's a grass median on Reads Lane which is a perfect place for an Elevated line I thought you extended it as a joke to how the MTA wastes money on pointless extensions 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted February 8, 2018 Share #23 Posted February 8, 2018 This thread probably had the most LMAO's I've ever seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share #24 Posted February 9, 2018 Here's the same 2028 subway map in PDF format so you can see it more clearer and zoom in: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WUND1eYDto0QDGc6kYmL6oFuJSrfRUsV/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimB Posted February 9, 2018 Author Share #25 Posted February 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Coney Island Av said: I know you're new here, but have you ever heard of the proposals thread? But that extension in the Rockaways is... I need this extension. I can't stand this 20 minute walk to the train station, especially in the frigid cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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