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Q47 to Serve Bulova Corporate Center


BM5 via Woodhaven

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3 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

After year and a half past the planned implementation date, Q47 buses will start serving Bulova Corporate Center on September 30th. Signs have been placed on certain buses.

hopefully this means they increase the service on the q47 bus. I noticed during rush hours, it is impossible to get on an atlas park bound bus near the 7 train subways on 69th st and 74th st.

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Update: So for some unknown reason, bus operators have been instructed to not serve Bulova. Someone asked if the bus was going to Bulova and the operator said that they were told to not go there. Multiple checks on bustime confirm that. Right now, it is unclear on when service will actually start.

On the other hand, the new schedule is out.

https://new.mta.info/document/6531

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2 hours ago, Q43LTD said:

So we posted a new schedule and now it won't serve Bulova until what, we're dead? Typical (MTA) shenanigans

Did some research, apparently it's a venue for corporate events.  Was supposed to be for Amazon when they went to LIC, but Queens residents scared the pants off them. I'm guessing the Governor had to be pressured into serving that place by hospitality workers. 

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3 hours ago, NY1635 said:

Did some research, apparently it's a venue for corporate events.  Was supposed to be for Amazon when they went to LIC, but Queens residents scared the pants off them. I'm guessing the Governor had to be pressured into serving that place by hospitality workers. 

I think it was the space near there, not the actual corporate center. The address that Amazon was going to get was 26-15 Boody Street, and that's not the corporate center, but the space adjacent to it.

Also, the decision to send the Q47 over there was made way before Amazon announced their intentions to build new offices and such in cities they choose.

It's supposed to serve the corporate center between 6am and 3pm Northbound, and 10am to 7pm Southbound.

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Q47 buses are once again not serving Bulova. Maybe this thread should be renamed to read "to (not) serve" instead. This time, there's an advisory posted on the MTA website:

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Planned Work

Posted: 10/4/19 2:39 PM

Until further notice
Q47 buses are temporarily bypassing the Bulova Corporate Center bus stop at all times.

 


Please use the following nearby stops:

Northbound: 77 St at 25 Av
Southbound: 78 St at 25 Av

I wonder how much longer until they'll pull a Q114 on this one.

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On ‎9‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 9:06 PM, NY1635 said:

Was supposed to be for Amazon when they went to LIC, but Queens residents scared the pants off them.....

Yeah, they definitely had Bezos shaking in his boots, didn't they....

smh...

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Planned Work

Posted: 10/4/19 2:39 PM

Until further notice, Q47 buses are temporarily bypassing the Bulova Corporate Center bus stop at all times.

They're making it sound like there's some construction or obstruction or something that's hindering them from having buses serve it....  If that's not the case, then this doesn't classify as "planned work"....

There's something rotten in the state of Denmark about this whole Bulova ordeal that's not being disclosed to the public here.....

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Tracing everything back, Bulova must have approached the MTA prior to when this surfaced in the Feb 2018 book. They must have been on solid ground that they were finally going to offload the facility to a new buyer -- Terreno Realty.  This sale was announced as finalized at the beginning of February 2018 in Crain's New York (prior to the Feb Board meeting). So if Bulova got essentially green-lighted by someone at the MTA, I'm guessing that request was submitted somewhere around 2-3 months before (at least), so let's just say around Sept/Oct of 2017.

In the Staff Summary for this, note that Bulova was supposed to make adjustments to the property to enable MTA buses to serve it. So, 2-3 months out, Bulova says to the MTA, "we'll change things (do Cap Ex) for your buses to access our property." MTA flies the proposal to all the different departments for their "studies", and within that time Bulova gets a serious offer. Bulova would disclose this to Terreno, and the two outcomes would be: (a) Bulova would do the Cap Ex and thus raise the price (or include the costs) of those improvements which Terreno would pay, or (b) Leave the price as-is, tell Terreno their proposal with the MTA is out there awaiting action, and let Terreno make their own decision of whether to spend their own money. My bet is on the latter.

Terreno probably put the whole thing on hold, BUT presumably used the MTA proposal as a carrot in negotiating any future tenancy proposals. Amazon came along, and was reported to be a major tenant in October 2018, with them officially leasing as of Dec 1, 2018. During this period (Feb-Oct), Terreno could have told the MTA they couldn't have access to the property (while in talks with anyone including Amazon), but once things settle, THEY would decide when buses could come on-site.

This whole scenario isn't really that uncommon, but Bulova was probably trying to sweeten any sale deal by being able to boast of "direct public transportation".

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