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Sex Toys ads to be allowed on NYC Subway trains

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4 hours ago, CenSin said:

Sex toys are catalysts like alcohol, IMO. Think about the association between alcohol and all of the innumerable ways one can screw up while intoxicated. Alcohol does not directly cause car accidents; the person has to get behind the wheel and drive first. Similarly, sex toys do not cause pregnancy nor STIs, but their use may involve activities that lead up to it. A sex toy may also transmit infected bodily fluids. There are plenty of possibilities for misuse that could lead to:

Repeat after me.

Teenagers do not need sex toys to start having sex. It almost always comes after.

Where I come from, you learn that from either seeing your parents at it at the ripe old age of 3, or you stay up to watch HBO late at night with Cartoon Network on "LAST".

Trust me, sex toys are the absolute last thing I'd expect to be called a "catalyst". 

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18 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

This thread really has gone downhill...

I never thought a Transit thread would go so in depth about erotic behavior, and dildos, and people having orgies.

Oh relax. It's a discussion that's related to the OP, not a thirst convention.

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The ads in question aren't even really explicit tbh. If I saw them it wouldn't even occur to me they're for sex toys.

 

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6 hours ago, LTA1992 said:

Repeat after me.

Teenagers do not need sex toys to start having sex. It almost always comes after.

Where I come from, you learn that from either seeing your parents at it at the ripe old age of 3, or you stay up to watch HBO late at night with Cartoon Network on "LAST".

Trust me, sex toys are the absolute last thing I'd expect to be called a "catalyst". 

I’ve worked with teens and I know what’s normal behavior for a teen to exhibit. Teenagers, of course, know all about this stuff. (I never mentioned teens—you said it.)

It’s the 6-year-olds that don’t need to be acquainted with sex toys. They’re at that developmental stage where their brains soak up information—knowledge, behaviors, and sensations. Their curiosity might lead to problem behavior that detracts from what is developmentally appropriate in this society.

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2 hours ago, CenSin said:

I’ve worked with teens and I know what’s normal behavior for a teen to exhibit. Teenagers, of course, know all about this stuff. (I never mentioned teens—you said it.)

It’s the 6-year-olds that don’t need to be acquainted with sex toys. They’re at that developmental stage where their brains soak up information—knowledge, behaviors, and sensations. Their curiosity might lead to problem behavior that detracts from what is developmentally appropriate in this society.

Of course they gonna know what intercourse is, by the time they hit 4th grade, 
They got the discovery channel don't they?

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37 minutes ago, bobtehpanda said:

Of course they gonna know what intercourse is, by the time they hit 4th grade, 
They got the discovery channel don't they?

lol... eminem reference....

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3 hours ago, CenSin said:

I’ve worked with teens and I know what’s normal behavior for a teen to exhibit. Teenagers, of course, know all about this stuff. (I never mentioned teens—you said it.)

It’s the 6-year-olds that don’t need to be acquainted with sex toys. They’re at that developmental stage where their brains soak up information—knowledge, behaviors, and sensations. Their curiosity might lead to problem behavior that detracts from what is developmentally appropriate in this society.

As long as PornHub or Xvideos try to advertise in the NYCT Subway system, this shouldn't be traumatic to anyone.

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Lmao how long till we hear the prudes screaming like they did when Lane Bryant had an ad wrapped up on an (F) Train

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2 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

@Via Garibaldi 8

What type of ppl do you tutor? And do you see any reflection on them based on sexual awareness?

What a question! I run the gamut from little ones in 2nd grade all the way up to 12th grade. Now I only tutor privately, but when I was teaching classes, I evenly had elderly folks in some of my Italian classes. Now most of the high schoolers need English, Math, History or Science so nothing too exciting. Math is what it is. I have two I'm working with now mainly so they have interaction with a native English speaker. With one we're doing a mix of things from Shakespeare to critical thinking exercises. He's great with Science and Math, but horrible with English, so his sexual awareness... Can't say anything about that, but I sincerely hope that his analyzation skills improve. May work with him over the summer, which is something I rarely do.

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13 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

What a question! I run the gamut from little ones in 2nd grade all the way up to 12th grade. Now I only tutor privately, but when I was teaching classes, I evenly had elderly folks in some of my Italian classes. Now most of the high schoolers need English, Math, History or Science so nothing too exciting. Math is what it is. I have two I'm working with now mainly so they have interaction with a native English speaker. With one we're doing a mix of things from Shakespeare to critical thinking exercises. He's great with Science and Math, but horrible with English, so his sexual awareness... Can't say anything about that, but I sincerely hope that his analyzation skills improve. May work with him over the summer, which is something I rarely do.

Yeah at that age it is really hard to analyze things unless you have matured or learned to master those skills. It can be normal at that age.

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On 5/27/2018 at 12:40 PM, CenSin said:

The right wing says this is a slippery slope to legalizing pedophilia and bestiality. I haven’t got any knowledge to make an informed opinion on that opinion. But one wonders if there are any societal side effects of liberalizing sex.

While I can't infer causation, societies with more liberal views on sexuality tend to have lower violent crime rates. In our society, sexuality in media is more taboo than violence in media. I'll leave the conclusions to the reader. 

On 5/28/2018 at 9:48 AM, CenSin said:

Sex toys are catalysts like alcohol, IMO. Think about the association between alcohol and all of the innumerable ways one can screw up while intoxicated. Alcohol does not directly cause car accidents; the person has to get behind the wheel and drive first. Similarly, sex toys do not cause pregnancy nor STIs, but their use may involve activities that lead up to it. A sex toy may also transmit infected bodily fluids. There are plenty of possibilities for misuse that could lead to:

 

On 5/28/2018 at 1:56 PM, LTA1992 said:

Repeat after me.

Teenagers do not need sex toys to start having sex. It almost always comes after.

Where I come from, you learn that from either seeing your parents at it at the ripe old age of 3, or you stay up to watch HBO late at night with Cartoon Network on "LAST".

Trust me, sex toys are the absolute last thing I'd expect to be called a "catalyst". 

Yeah I have to agree with LTA mostly, I don't think that exposure to a mildly-suggestive advertisement for a sex toy is going to have any causal link to a teenager becoming sexually active. 

Further, if you look at STI and teenage pregnancy rates in populations that practice abstinence-only education you might find that trying to shield the youth from knowledge in regard is counterproductive. 

We're all wired to want sex. It's how life propagates - it's an innate quality. Demonize that nature, and undesirable effects pop up as people become more likely to engage in less-safe behavior - shame in buying protection causing lower use-rates for example. Educate on safe practices, and the opposite is true. 

As for sex toys - I suppose sure higher adoption of such would lead to more women being comfortable with their sexuality, leading to more enjoyment in regard and seeking out such moreso than they might otherwise - but - it's not like ads for the things are going to increase teens access to the things. Last time I checked you had to be 18 to purchase them.

Realistically though the only thing catalyzed is a higher incidence of women enjoying their sexuality. The fact that society at large seems to balk at that speaks volumes.  

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8 hours ago, itmaybeokay said:

While I can't infer causation, societies with more liberal views on sexuality tend to have lower violent crime rates. In our society, sexuality in media is more taboo than violence in media. I'll leave the conclusions to the reader. 

 

Yeah I have to agree with LTA mostly, I don't think that exposure to a mildly-suggestive advertisement for a sex toy is going to have any causal link to a teenager becoming sexually active. 

Further, if you look at STI and teenage pregnancy rates in populations that practice abstinence-only education you might find that trying to shield the youth from knowledge in regard is counterproductive. 

We're all wired to want sex. It's how life propagates - it's an innate quality. Demonize that nature, and undesirable effects pop up as people become more likely to engage in less-safe behavior - shame in buying protection causing lower use-rates for example. Educate on safe practices, and the opposite is true. 

As for sex toys - I suppose sure higher adoption of such would lead to more women being comfortable with their sexuality, leading to more enjoyment in regard and seeking out such moreso than they might otherwise - but - it's not like ads for the things are going to increase teens access to the things. Last time I checked you had to be 18 to purchase them.

Realistically though the only thing catalyzed is a higher incidence of women enjoying their sexuality. The fact that society at large seems to balk at that speaks volumes.  

Have you read this yet?

On 5/28/2018 at 8:35 PM, CenSin said:

I’ve worked with teens and I know what’s normal behavior for a teen to exhibit. Teenagers, of course, know all about this stuff. (I never mentioned teens—you said it.)

It’s the 6-year-olds that don’t need to be acquainted with sex toys. They’re at that developmental stage where their brains soak up information—knowledge, behaviors, and sensations. Their curiosity might lead to problem behavior that detracts from what is developmentally appropriate in this society.

 

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4 hours ago, CenSin said:

Have you read this yet?

 

Well it's not like the ads in question really explained or demonstrated the act that those familiar with the concept would infer. I don't think anybody is arguing that sexually explicit ads should be allowed. 

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