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July 1st Bus Service Changes

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Brooklyn
B1: Adjustments to Summer Service Levels

  • Most Weekday short-turns will be discontinued for the summer

B4: AM Peak Service Improvements

  • Service every 8 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

B6: Service Adjustments

  • EB LIMITED service runs every 6 minutes instead of every 8 minutes in the AM Peak
  • WB LIMITED service runs every 6 minutes instead of every 3-5 minutes, with more trips originating from ENY
  • Local service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes during middays
  • Local Evening Service reduced from every 9 minutes to every 10-12 minutes

B7: Service Adjustments

  • Early AM service reduced
  • Post-AM peak service will run every 15 minutes (instead of every 10 minutes)
  • Midday service will operate every 20 minutes (instead of every 20-30 minutes)

B9: Adjustments to Summer Service Levels

  • Short-turns from 5th Avenue have been discontinued for the summer

B12: Weekday Service Cuts

  • Service runs every 6 minutes instead of every 4-5 minutes in the AM 
  • Service runs every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes in the PM

B16: Summer Service Adjustments

  • All Weekday short-turns discontinued for the summer

B41: Service decreases / Bergen Beach Overnight Shuttle

  • Overnight Shuttle: Runs from Bergen Beach branch to Kings Plaza on-top of existing schedule at 2:13 and 3:13 AM only (Weekdays)
  • LIMITED service reduced throughout the day on Weekdays
  • Midday Local bus service runs every 9 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

B44 Local: Weekday Service Decrease South of Avenue U

  • Service runs every 15 minutes during the AM and PM shoulder instead of every 9-10 minutes south of Avenue U 
  • Above service change however provides more frequent service at times for those north of Avenue U

B44 SBS: Weekday Service Cuts

  • AM & PM short-turns from Avenue U & Avenue X discontinued (service halved at certain points)
  • Evening service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes

B46 Local: More Reductions

  • Evening service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 8 minutes (Weekdays)
  • Saturday Late evening service runs every 15-20 minutes instead of every 12 minutes
  • AM Peak service reduction
  • Reduced service throughout the day on Sundays

B70: Weekday Service Increases

  • Service runs every 8-9 minutes in the AM peak instead of every 10 minutes
  • Service runs every 12-14 minutes in the PM peak instead of every 12 minutes

B82: Saturday Evening Increases

  • Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes

B83: Sunday Service Reductions

  • Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes in the afternoon
  • Service will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes during the evening

X27: Weekend Service Increases

  • Service in the early afternoon will run every 30 minutes instead of every 45 minutes (Saturdays)
  • Service in the late afternoon and early evening will run every 35-40 minutes instead of every 60 minutes (Saturdays)
  • Slightly more frequent service on Sundays

X28: Weekend Trip Time Changes

  • Trip have changed by up to 10 minutes in both directions

 

The Bronx

Bx1: Weekday Service Decreases

  • Early AM service will run every 20 minutes instead of every 6-10 minutes
  • LIMITED service starts later- at 6:18 AM instead of 5:52 AM (from Riverdale) & at 7:00 AM instead of 6:50 AM (from Mott Haven)
  • Service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes during midday hours on weekdays
  • Service runs every 10 minutes during the PM peak shoulder instead of every 8 minutes
  • Northbound LIMITED service ends earlier- at 7:33 PM instead of 7:54 PM 

Bx2: Service Adjustments

  • Service runs every 8 minutes instead of every 6 minutes during the AM rush
  • Service runs every 7 minutes during middays instead of every 8-9 minutes
  • Service runs every 10 minutes during the PM peak instead of every 9 minutes

Bx5: Improvements for Riders East of White Plains Road / Decreases for West of White Plains Road

  • Service runs every 6-8 minutes from Pelham Bay in the early AM instead of every 15 minutes
  • Frequency West of White Plains Road will now be every 4-7 minutes instead of every 3-5 minutes during the height of the AM peak
  • Service every 12 minutes instead of every 9 minutes during the PM peak Shoulder
  • East of White Plains frequencies every 13-20 minutes during middays instead of every 20-26 minutes
  • Service every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes during the evening (Weekdays)
  • Service during the afternoon on Saturdays every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes
  • Additional 12:15 AM trip from Bay Plaza added (Saturdays)
  • Saturday evening service every 15 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • Last bus from Hunts Point on Saturdays at 1:12 AM instead of 12:50 AM
  • Sunday evening service every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes

Bx6 SBS: Sunday Trip Extension

  • The 8:24 PM Sunday departure from Washington Heights to Hunts Point Avenue (6) will be extended to Hunts Point-Food Center Drive

Bx8: Service Adjustments

  • Post AM-peak service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 6 minutes
  • Short-turns between 11 AM and 5 PM between Locust Point and Westchester Square discontinued (Total 4 trips)
  • Service will operate every 12 minutes SB between 1 and 2 PM (Weekdays)
  • An additional 4:05 PM trip from Williamsbridge to Westchester Square has been added

Bx12 Local: Orchard Beach Thru-Service Reinstated for Summer

  • Thru-Service on Bx12 local to Orchard Beach
  • Service runs every 10 minutes throughout the day on weekdays (instead of every 12 minutes during middays and evenings)
  • The first local bus from Bay Plaza will now depart at 9:21 PM instead of at 10:24 PM (Weekdays), and at 9:04 PM instead of 10:03 PM (Saturdays)
  • Local Service runs every 12 minutes during evenings instead of every 15 minutes
  • The first bus from Inwood now departs at 10:29 PM instead of at 11:03 PM (Weekdays)
  • Weekend service every 3-6 minutes instead of every 12-15 minutes during the day, with midday and afternoon trips going to Inwood

Bx12 SBS: Celebrating 10 Years of SBS service with both improvements and cuts

  • A new 5:00 AM trip from Edson Avenue & Bartow Avenue has been added and new 5:50 AM trip from Inwood has been added (Weekdays)
  • Less frequent service during midday hours
  • More frequent service during evening hours (Weekdays)
  • The 10:00 PM trip from Bay Plaza will be discontinued (Weekdays)
  • Service in the early AM between Bay Plaza and Pelham Bay will run every 13-33 minutes instead of every 6-8 minutes (Saturdays)
  • First trip from Bay Plaza on Saturdays now at 6:11 AM instead of 6:00 AM
  • The 10:25 PM trip from Bay Plaza will be discontinued
  • The first Saturday departure from Inwood at 6:45 AM will be discontinued (first departure now at 7:00 AM)
  • Service from Pelham Bay to Bay Plaza on Saturdays in the early morning will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Service in the AM and PM on Saturdays from Inwood to Bay Plaza will operate every 4-6 minutes instead of every 8-10 minutes
  • Service during midday hours on Saturdays every 5 minutes instead of every 7 minutes
  • Last bus from Bay Plaza to Inwood will be at 10:30 PM instead of 10:00 PM, and last bus from Inwood will be at 11:25 PM instead of 10:55 PM (Sundays)

Bx19: Service Decreases

  • Service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 8 minutes SB from 5:45 PM to 6:45 PM, and in the early evening NB
  • Slightly more service on Saturdays
  • Late evening service every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes (Sundays)

Bx20: PM Peak Increases

  • Service will run every 15 minutes from 5-6 PM (instead of every 20 minutes)

Bx22: Service Cuts Throughout

  • AM peak service less frequent 
  • PM peak service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes
  • Saturday service throughout the day will run every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

Bx28/Bx38: Rush Hour Service Decreases

  • Service in the AM peak will be every 8 minutes combined, instead of every 6 minutes
  • Service in the PM peak will be every 6-7 minutes combined instead of every 5 minutes

Bx29: Service Adjustments

  • Service in early AM will run every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Evening service on Saturdays will operate every 20 minutes throughout instead of every 30 minutes
  • The 2:11 AM trip from City Island to Pelham Bay Park discontinued (Saturdays)
  • Last few departures from City Island on Weekends will terminate at Pelham Bay Park instead of Co-Op City

Bx40/Bx42: Service Cuts

  • Midday service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes
  • PM peak service slightly less frequent

Bx41 Local: More Trips

  • Additional short-turns scattered throughout the day between Fordham and The Hub
  • More frequent Saturday evening service

 

Queens

Q3: Short-turn Changes

  • Early AM short-turns from Merrick Boulevard to JFK have been discontinued
  • All PM short-turns between 179 Street (F) Station and Rockaway Boulevard have been discontinued
  • Additional short-turns from Rockaway Boulevard to Jamaica will be added at 4:47 AM and 5:13 AM

Q4: Increase in Service East of Francis Lewis Boulevard & LIMITED service decreases

  • All local between 6:20 AM and 7:20 AM will operate the full route instead of originating at Francis Lewis Boulevard
  • The 8:53 AM and 9:03 AM trips to Jamaica have been discontinued
  • AM LIMITED service to Cambria Heights has been discontinued for the summer
  • The 8:23 PM LIMITED trip from Jamaica to Cambria Heights has been discontinued

Q5: Service Cuts

  • AM peak service has been reduced to reflect summer ridership
  • Midday service operates every 9 minutes on the trunk instead of every 7-8 minutes
  • LIMITED service runs less frequently during the PM rush 
  • The 8:14 PM, 8:22 PM, 8:32 PM, and 8:42 PM LIMITED trips from Jamaica have been discontinued

Q6: Service Increases (and a decrease)

  • A new 5:50 AM trip from JFK Airport to Jamaica has been added
  • Saturday service operates every 10 minutes throughout the day, instead of every 12 minutes
  • Late afternoon/early evening service operates every 7-8 minutes instead of every of every 12-15 minutes (Saturdays)
  • Service operates every 10 minutes during the evening instead of every 20 minutes (Saturdays)
  • Service operates every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes (Saturdays)

Q9: Saturday Service Increases

  • A new 5:30 AM trip from South Ozone Park to Jamaica will be added
  • A new 5:55 AM trip from Jamaica to South Ozone Park will be added
  • Service from 6-7 AM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • Service will operate every 15-20 minutes during the late afternoon/early evening instead of every 20-30 minutes to Jamaica
  • Service will operate every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes during the late afternoon to South Ozone Park

Q15 & Q28: Summer Service Reduction

  • The 2:37 PM Weekday trip from 150 Street & 15 Drive to Main Street will be discontinued for the summer (Q15)
  • AM Peak short-turns from Flushing to Auburndale have been discontinued for the summer (Q28)

Q27: Service Improvements South of Jamaica Avenue & Summer Service Changes

  • Midday Service will operate every 6 minutes instead of every 12 minutes (Weekdays)
  • AM short-turn service has been discontinued for the summer
  • LIMITED service operates every 6-10 minutes instead of every 3-6 minutes during the AM rush

Q29: Saturday Service Changes

  • Service between 6-7 AM will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • Service between 7-8 AM will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Service between 1-6 PM will operate every 10-12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Evening service operates every 20-30 minutes instead of every 15-20 minutes

Q30 & Q31: New Little Neck Shuttle & Service Trip Decreases

  • A new 8:41 AM trip from Little Neck Parkway has been added, running only to Queensboro Community College (Q30)
  • Less frequent service in the AM and PM to reflect summer ridership changes (Q30, Q31)

Q42: AM Service Increase

  • The 9:15 AM trip to Jamaica has been split into a 9:10 AM and 9:25 AM trip

Q48: Sunday Night Increase

  • A new 12:09 AM trip from Flushing will be added, which returns to Flushing at 12:40 AM

Q49: Service Changes

  • A new 4:40 AM trip has been added to Jackson Heights (Weekdays)
  • Service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes in the early AM (Weekdays)
  • Service operate every 8 minutes instead of every 12 minutes in the NB direction during evening hours (Saturdays)
  • Service operates every 15-20 minutes instead of every 12-15 minutes between 3 PM and 10 PM in the SB direction (Saturdays)

Q53 SBS: Weekend Summer Service Increases

  • A new 6:15 AM trip from Woodside to Rockaway Park has been added (Saturdays)
  • Service operates every 8-10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes from 1-8:30 PM

Q58 Local: Weekday Service Decreases

  • Service runs every 6 minutes instead of every 4 minutes north of Putnam Avenue in the early AM
  • Slightly less service in the evening
  • Late evening service operates every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes

Q58 LIMITED: Weekday Service Span Changes & Service Decreases

  • Service operates every 6-7 minutes during the AM peak instead of every 5 minutes
  • Service operates every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes during the post-AM peak
  • A new 11:07 AM trip from Ridgewood to Flushing has been added
  • A new 12:18 PM trip from Flushing to Ridgewood has been added
  • Flushing-bound LIMITED service before 3 PM has been discontinued
  • The 8:00 PM trip to Flushing has been discontinued

Q76, Q77, Q84, Q85, Q88: Summer Service Reductions & Other Adjustments

  • AM peak service has been reduced to reflect lower summer ridership levels 
  • Midday service has been slightly reduced to reflect lower summer ridership levels (Q85)
  • PM shoulder service operates every 20 minutes instead of every 10 minutes (Q85 LIMITED)
  • PM service has been reduced to reflect lower summer ridership levels (Q77, Q84, Q85, Q85 LIMITED, Q88)
  • Early AM service operates every slightly more frequent (Q84)
  • Evening service runs every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes (Q84)
  • Late evening service runs every 15 minutes instead of every 20 minutes (Q84)
  • Midday Service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes (Q88)

Q100 - Less Service to Rikers Island

  • The 5:28 AM trip from Queens Plaza will be truncated to terminate at the Rikers Island Parking Lot
  • The current 6:00 AM trip from Rikers Island will begin at 6:03 AM at the Rikers Island Parking Lot

 

NOTE: Queens Express Bus Reductions will be discussed HERE

 

Manhattan

M101 Local: Weekday Service Decreases

  • Additional short-turn from 96 Street to the East Village at 4:13 AM (Weekdays)
  • A new 5:51 AM trip from Fort George will be added
  • Service runs every 6-9 minutes instead of every 2-6 minutes during the early AM 
  • Additional short-turns from Fort George to 96 Street in the early overnight hours
  • Less frequent service north of 96 Street during evening hours in the NB direction
  • A new 8:06 PM trip from Fort George has been added

M101 LIMITED: Span Increases & Service Decrease on Weekdays

  • The first bus to the East Village departs at 5:39 AM instead of 5:55 AM
  • The 5:55 AM trip will be converted into a local trip (see above)
  • Less frequent service throughout the day

M102: Service Reductions

  • Service will operate less frequent in the early AM
  • Service in the PM shoulder will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes
  • Evening service operate every 15-16 minutes  instead of every 10 minutes
  • Late evening service operates every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes in the NB direction

M103: Service Reductions

  • Service will operate every 15-20 minutes in the early AM instead of every 12-15 minutes
  • Late evening service will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes in the NB direction

 

Staten Island

S74: Weekday Service Changes

  • Overnight trips from Bricktown Mall depart 5 minutes earlier
  • The 6:20 AM trip from Targee Street/DeKalb Street to St. George has been discontinued
  • Service operates every 12 minutes from 7-7:50 PM instead of every 15 minutes
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3 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Bx12 SBS: Celebrating 10 Years of SBS service with both improvements and cuts

  • A new 5:00 AM trip from Edson Avenue & Bartow Avenue has been added and new 5:50 AM trip from Inwood has been added (Weekdays)
  • Less frequent service during midday hours
  • More frequent service during evening hours (Weekdays)
  • The 10:00 PM trip from Bay Plaza will be discontinued (Weekdays)
  • Service in the early AM between Bay Plaza and Pelham Bay will run every 13-33 minutes instead of every 6-8 minutes (Saturdays)
  • First trip from Bay Plaza on Saturdays now at 6:11 AM instead of 6:00 AM
  • The 10:25 PM trip from Bay Plaza will be discontinued
  • The first Saturday departure from Inwood at 6:45 AM will be discontinued (first departure now at 7:00 AM)
  • Service from Pelham Bay to Bay Plaza on Saturdays in the early morning will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Service in the AM and PM on Saturdays from Inwood to Bay Plaza will operate every 4-6 minutes instead of every 8-10 minutes
  • Service during midday hours on Saturdays every 5 minutes instead of every 7 minutes
  • Last bus from Bay Plaza to Inwood will be at 10:30 PM instead of 10:00 PM, and last bus from Inwood will be at 11:25 PM instead of 10:55 PM (Sundays)

- 13-33 minutes, that's a long range

- I don't think any SBS services should have 30 min headways at any time. 15 max.

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The changes in the B/44 and B/44 SBS south of Avenue U have to do with the schools at Avenue X and Batchelder Street.

I do not know if there will summer school this year and I hope and pray this is not one of those situations where the schools did not notify MTA by last April that they were holding summer school classes.

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24 minutes ago, Interested Rider said:

The changes in the B/44 and B/44 SBS south of Avenue U have to do with the schools at Avenue X and Batchelder Street.

I do not know if there will summer school this year and I hope and pray this is not one of those situations where the schools did not notify MTA by last April that they were holding summer school classes.

School trippers run in the summer?

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1 hour ago, Lawrence St said:

Why does the Bx12 SBS not go to Orchard Beach?

It originally ran to Orchard Beach when the service first started (10 years ago today). It was changed the following year after there was confusion over the two Bx12 SBS branches. The following changes were made:

Bx12 Local goes to Orchard Beach

ALL Bx12 SBS service goes to Bay Plaza.

This was done to have consistent service 365 days a year, reducing confusion.

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10 hours ago, JeremiahC99 said:

It originally ran to Orchard Beach when the service first started (10 years ago today). It was changed the following year after there was confusion over the two Bx12 SBS branches. The following changes were made:

Bx12 Local goes to Orchard Beach

ALL Bx12 SBS service goes to Bay Plaza.

This was done to have consistent service 365 days a year, reducing confusion.

I think the Bx12 local is already as confusing as it is...

I thought MTA would at least have special SBS service to the Beach to boost the beach's popularity.

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9 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

I think the Bx12 local is already as confusing as it is...

I thought MTA would at least have special SBS service to the Beach to boost the beach's popularity.

How is the Bx12 Local confusing? During most of the year, it runs from University Heights to the Pelham Bay Park Station during the day, while at night, it runs from Inwood-207th Street station to Edson Avenue. During the summer daytime hours, they run from Inwood to Orchard Beach.

 

I don't think that is confusing. I think Bronx commuters already understand that.

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2 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

I think the Bx12 local is already as confusing as it is...

I thought MTA would at least have special SBS service to the Beach to boost the beach's popularity.

I don't understand why it's so necessary for the Bx12 SBS to go to Orchard Beach. They have two different functions this time of year. The local makes it much easier for those not at SBS stops going to the beach. That way, everyone gets served, and there's more frequent service on the local. Bronx residents already know that the Bx12 Local goes to Orchard Beach, and that's the way it has been for years, even before SBS.

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On ‎6‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 6:37 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Brooklyn
B1: Adjustments to Summer Service Levels

  • Most Weekday short-turns will be discontinued for the summer

B4: AM Peak Service Improvements

  • Service every 8 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

B6: Service Adjustments

  • EB LIMITED service runs every 6 minutes instead of every 8 minutes in the AM Peak
  • WB LIMITED service runs every 6 minutes instead of every 3-5 minutes, with more trips originating from ENY
  • Local service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes during middays
  • Local Evening Service reduced from every 9 minutes to every 10-12 minutes

B7: Service Adjustments

  • Early AM service reduced
  • Post-AM peak service will run every 15 minutes (instead of every 10 minutes)
  • Midday service will operate every 20 minutes (instead of every 20-30 minutes)

B9: Adjustments to Summer Service Levels

  • Short-turns from 5th Avenue have been discontinued for the summer

B12: Weekday Service Cuts

  • Service runs every 6 minutes instead of every 4-5 minutes in the AM 
  • Service runs every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes in the PM

B16: Summer Service Adjustments

  • All Weekday short-turns discontinued for the summer

B41: Service decreases / Bergen Beach Overnight Shuttle

  • Overnight Shuttle: Runs from Bergen Beach branch to Kings Plaza on-top of existing schedule at 2:13 and 3:13 AM only (Weekdays)
  • LIMITED service reduced throughout the day on Weekdays
  • Midday Local bus service runs every 9 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

B44 Local: Weekday Service Decrease South of Avenue U

  • Service runs every 15 minutes during the AM and PM shoulder instead of every 9-10 minutes south of Avenue U 
  • Above service change however provides more frequent service at times for those north of Avenue U

B44 SBS: Weekday Service Cuts

  • AM & PM short-turns from Avenue U & Avenue X discontinued (service halved at certain points)
  • Evening service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes

B46 Local: More Reductions

  • Evening service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 8 minutes (Weekdays)
  • Saturday Late evening service runs every 15-20 minutes instead of every 12 minutes
  • AM Peak service reduction
  • Reduced service throughout the day on Sundays

B70: Weekday Service Increases

  • Service runs every 8-9 minutes in the AM peak instead of every 10 minutes
  • Service runs every 12-14 minutes in the PM peak instead of every 12 minutes

B82: Saturday Evening Increases

  • Service will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes

B83: Sunday Service Reductions

  • Service will operate every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes in the afternoon
  • Service will operate every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes during the evening

X27: Weekend Service Increases

  • Service in the early afternoon will run every 30 minutes instead of every 45 minutes (Saturdays)
  • Service in the late afternoon and early evening will run every 35-40 minutes instead of every 60 minutes (Saturdays)
  • Slightly more frequent service on Sundays

X28: Weekend Trip Time Changes

  • Trip have changed by up to 10 minutes in both directions

Just by looking at these Brooklyn service cuts about every Brooklyn Division depot is going to experience cuts in some form of fashion.

The ones that got screw with this round of cuts is Flatbush and East New York.  Gleason, Ulmer Park, and Fresh Pond didn't get spared this time either.

The only one lucky in this case: Grand Avenue.

(Any Flatbush Operator) I need a full explanation on this Overnight Bergen Beach Shuttle.

What's with the decrease of service on FB's major lines? B41/44/46. Something has to give? Hopefully, in the fall things get better.

#fin.

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5 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

Just by looking at these Brooklyn service cuts about every Brooklyn Division depot is going to experience cuts in some form of fashion.

The ones that got screw with this round of cuts is Flatbush and East New York.  Gleason, Ulmer Park, and Fresh Pond didn't get spared this time either.

The only one lucky in this case: Grand Avenue.

(Any Flatbush Operator) I need a full explanation on this Overnight Bergen Beach Shuttle.

What's with the decrease of service on FB's major lines? B41/44/46. Something has to give? Hopefully, in the fall things get better.

#fin.

years ago, my uncle did a hawk on the b41 that had the bergen beach - kings plaza work. i also did a hawk on the b41 (while on the extra list) some years later, and it basically is as follows:

on top of the run that you will be performing, starting at cadman plaza, you do a southbound trip into Bergen beach via avenue n/veterans, then instead of laying over on east 71, you proceed on avenue u to Flatbush and layover at kings plaza.

it's very similar to the overnight Q1's that serve both branches in Queens Village via Jamaica avenue between midnight & 3am, except for the b41 it's literally 2 trips between 3 & 4am, and those trips aren't acknowledged on any bus map or timetable.

those combo trips have existed as far as I've know well before my uncle joined TA in 2005 and when i joined in 09. i believe they haven't done the combo trips in awhile, which is why they acknowledge bringing them back, but i could be wrong. 

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So the new Q47 schedule which is suppose to show the increase in Saturday service throughout the day came out:

http://web.mta.info/busco/schedules/q047cur.pdf

I'm not surprised, but I have to say, I am disappointed by that schedule. 

So, I don't know what happened between when the initial improvements were brought out and when the schedules were finalized, but much of what they promised is actually NOT on this schedule at all. First of, the MTA document mentioned that the Q47 would get service improvements throughout the day, from morning to evening, from every 30 minutes to every 20 minutes. In the AM, that is true- but only if you're going northbound. If you;re going southbound, it's still every 30 minutes. Is it so difficult to run the buses southbound every 20 minutes instead of every 30 minutes, so you don't have buses with really long layover. In the end, you're not saving much by doing that.

Midday service, is still running every 30 minutes in one direction, and every 20 towards the end in the other direction. Again, what the hell. 

PM service is running every 20 minutes in the southbound direction alright, but is running every 30 minutes northbound one hour after the 'PM' period starts. But hey, let's add one hour of 15 minute headways southbound from 6:30-7:30 so it looks better.

Evening service is every 20 minutes, for the first half. Buses still get heavily loads until about 11, but that can be worked out. Although, I have no understanding why there's a funky 20 minute headway from 8-9 PM northbound out of nowhere.

 

The MTA planned these headways based on the ridership patterns of the Glendale (southern) portion of the line, while not taking into account the Jackson Heights portion, which is equally as important. Although the Glendale portion is much more utilized, the Jackson Heights portion is also utilized as well, as I've seen the loads of people waiting at Roosevelt Avenue for northbound buses in the PM (right when the headway will be the same as it currently is). So, in reality, only reverse peak riders (usually the ones going to Marine Air Terminal and northern Jackson Heights) will only benefit, while those going to the subway will still be stuck with virtually the same service. 

 

It's bad enough the MTA threw in a catch to the Q49 Saturday service increase by not only making it NB only, but by simultaneously decreasing afternoon service and early evening service. Absolute nonsense.

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4 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

It's bad enough the MTA threw in a catch to the Q49 Saturday service increase by not only making it NB only, but by simultaneously decreasing afternoon service and early evening service. Absolute nonsense.

 

Maybe the passengers are riding incorrectly?

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On 6/29/2018 at 2:37 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

The Bronx

Bx1: Weekday Service Decreases

  • Early AM service will run every 20 minutes instead of every 6-10 minutes
  • LIMITED service starts later- at 6:18 AM instead of 5:52 AM (from Riverdale) & at 7:00 AM instead of 6:50 AM (from Mott Haven)
  • Service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes during midday hours on weekdays
  • Service runs every 10 minutes during the PM peak shoulder instead of every 8 minutes
  • Northbound LIMITED service ends earlier- at 7:33 PM instead of 7:54 PM 

Bx2: Service Adjustments

  • Service runs every 8 minutes instead of every 6 minutes during the AM rush
  • Service runs every 7 minutes during middays instead of every 8-9 minutes
  • Service runs every 10 minutes during the PM peak instead of every 9 minutes

Bx5: Improvements for Riders East of White Plains Road / Decreases for West of White Plains Road

  • Service runs every 6-8 minutes from Pelham Bay in the early AM instead of every 15 minutes
  • Frequency West of White Plains Road will now be every 4-7 minutes instead of every 3-5 minutes during the height of the AM peak
  • Service every 12 minutes instead of every 9 minutes during the PM peak Shoulder
  • East of White Plains frequencies every 13-20 minutes during middays instead of every 20-26 minutes
  • Service every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes during the evening (Weekdays)
  • Service during the afternoon on Saturdays every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes
  • Additional 12:15 AM trip from Bay Plaza added (Saturdays)
  • Saturday evening service every 15 minutes instead of every 20 minutes
  • Last bus from Hunts Point on Saturdays at 1:12 AM instead of 12:50 AM
  • Sunday evening service every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes

Bx6 SBS: Sunday Trip Extension

  • The 8:24 PM Sunday departure from Washington Heights to Hunts Point Avenue (6) will be extended to Hunts Point-Food Center Drive

Bx8: Service Adjustments

  • Post AM-peak service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 6 minutes
  • Short-turns between 11 AM and 5 PM between Locust Point and Westchester Square discontinued (Total 4 trips)
  • Service will operate every 12 minutes SB between 1 and 2 PM (Weekdays)
  • An additional 4:05 PM trip from Williamsbridge to Westchester Square has been added

Bx12 Local: Orchard Beach Thru-Service Reinstated for Summer

  • Thru-Service on Bx12 local to Orchard Beach
  • Service runs every 10 minutes throughout the day on weekdays (instead of every 12 minutes during middays and evenings)
  • The first local bus from Bay Plaza will now depart at 9:21 PM instead of at 10:24 PM (Weekdays), and at 9:04 PM instead of 10:03 PM (Saturdays)
  • Local Service runs every 12 minutes during evenings instead of every 15 minutes
  • The first bus from Inwood now departs at 10:29 PM instead of at 11:03 PM (Weekdays)
  • Weekend service every 3-6 minutes instead of every 12-15 minutes during the day, with midday and afternoon trips going to Inwood

Bx12 SBS: Celebrating 10 Years of SBS service with both improvements and cuts

  • A new 5:00 AM trip from Edson Avenue & Bartow Avenue has been added and new 5:50 AM trip from Inwood has been added (Weekdays)
  • Less frequent service during midday hours
  • More frequent service during evening hours (Weekdays)
  • The 10:00 PM trip from Bay Plaza will be discontinued (Weekdays)
  • Service in the early AM between Bay Plaza and Pelham Bay will run every 13-33 minutes instead of every 6-8 minutes (Saturdays)
  • First trip from Bay Plaza on Saturdays now at 6:11 AM instead of 6:00 AM
  • The 10:25 PM trip from Bay Plaza will be discontinued
  • The first Saturday departure from Inwood at 6:45 AM will be discontinued (first departure now at 7:00 AM)
  • Service from Pelham Bay to Bay Plaza on Saturdays in the early morning will operate every 30 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Service in the AM and PM on Saturdays from Inwood to Bay Plaza will operate every 4-6 minutes instead of every 8-10 minutes
  • Service during midday hours on Saturdays every 5 minutes instead of every 7 minutes
  • Last bus from Bay Plaza to Inwood will be at 10:30 PM instead of 10:00 PM, and last bus from Inwood will be at 11:25 PM instead of 10:55 PM (Sundays)

Bx19: Service Decreases

  • Service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 8 minutes SB from 5:45 PM to 6:45 PM, and in the early evening NB
  • Slightly more service on Saturdays
  • Late evening service every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes (Sundays)

Bx20: PM Peak Increases

  • Service will run every 15 minutes from 5-6 PM (instead of every 20 minutes)

Bx22: Service Cuts Throughout

  • AM peak service less frequent 
  • PM peak service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes
  • Saturday service throughout the day will run every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes

Bx28/Bx38: Rush Hour Service Decreases

  • Service in the AM peak will be every 8 minutes combined, instead of every 6 minutes
  • Service in the PM peak will be every 6-7 minutes combined instead of every 5 minutes

Bx29: Service Adjustments

  • Service in early AM will run every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes
  • Evening service on Saturdays will operate every 20 minutes throughout instead of every 30 minutes
  • The 2:11 AM trip from City Island to Pelham Bay Park discontinued (Saturdays)
  • Last few departures from City Island on Weekends will terminate at Pelham Bay Park instead of Co-Op City

Bx40/Bx42: Service Cuts

  • Midday service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes
  • PM peak service slightly less frequent

Bx41 Local: More Trips

  • Additional short-turns scattered throughout the day between Fordham and The Hub
  • More frequent Saturday evening service

I don't know where the Bx9 is here but as always it's left out. There should be no reason a Bx9 from Riverdale arrives at Fordham 40 minutes late. There should be more buses in the AM rush, all the trip's I've been on have been filled to the max and then you got wheelchairs and lord it's just hell. I never have this problem going TO Riverdale.

Also, do those extra Bx12 Local trips deadhead to Bay Plaza first or operate to Bay Plaza?

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51 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

I don't know where the Bx9 is here but as always it's left out. There should be no reason a Bx9 from Riverdale arrives at Fordham 40 minutes late. There should be more buses in the AM rush, all the trip's I've been on have been filled to the max and then you got wheelchairs and lord it's just hell. I never have this problem going TO Riverdale.

Also, do those extra Bx12 Local trips deadhead to Bay Plaza first or operate to Bay Plaza?

The Bx9 shouldn't get anything until the farebeaters in University Heights and the other areas of the Bronx start PAYING.  Outside of Riverdale, fare evasion on the Bx9 is rampant thus making it appear that fewer people are riding.  If anything, provide more short turns to and from 242nd for Riverdale and call it a day since we're the ones paying the fare.

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They keep cutting Bx1/2 service when they just need to find a way to stop it from choking at Fordham...

On 6/30/2018 at 10:07 AM, JeremiahC99 said:

How is the Bx12 Local confusing? During most of the year, it runs from University Heights to the Pelham Bay Park Station during the day, while at night, it runs from Inwood-207th Street station to Edson Avenue. During the summer daytime hours, they run from Inwood to Orchard Beach.

 

I don't think that is confusing. I think Bronx commuters already understand that.

I'd argue riders on the Bx12 local have been confused longer than SBS has been around though.

The only place it says University Heights is on the schedule and that's always been filled with errors. For some time, it showed the local runs ending at Fordham Plz, now makes it seem like the day time runs don't stop at Fordham/Sedgwick which is the last x-fer to Inwood.  The westbound designation sign/pole signage have been wrong for 12-13 years and MTA never announced the change in the last stop. More often than not, when the W/B Bx12 local gets to Fordham Hill, there are passengers wondering where they are and operators handing out x-fers. As far as I've been able to tell, it's also the only Bronx route with no actual terminal/layover area.

 

On 7/2/2018 at 10:14 AM, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

The Bx9 shouldn't get anything until the farebeaters in University Heights and the other areas of the Bronx start PAYING.  Outside of Riverdale, fare evasion on the Bx9 is rampant thus making it appear that fewer people are riding.  If anything, provide more short turns to and from 242nd for Riverdale and call it a day since we're the ones paying the fare.

lol I think MTA learned their lesson about giving Riverdale extra short turns after that Bx7 mess but that extra 20 run an hour will be useful.

Lawrence St is right, there's been little effort made to address a growing problem. The Bx9 has always bunched but it used to be able to make up the time it lost on Fordham, along Broadway (the biggest issue was having the Bx7/20 turn at the end of the light sequence at 231). While the development along the B'way has been beneficial to the community at large, some entity failed to account for/choose to ignore the fact that Broadway really only had 2 lanes from 230-239 sts and then choose not to build an additional road to support the new traffic (ex. extending Putnam Avenue W as far south as they could). They've installed sidewalk buildouts at 231/238 and traffic lights at Kimberly & Verveleen Places (my gut says one is also coming at 237 St), because the drivers are out of control. I know you know the (1) has been out most weekends, so that adds shuttle buses plus lane/bridge closures to the mix. Meanwhile the Bx9 has not adapted to the times: No Limited Service, no official short turns at 225 heading back east or any before W Farms heading west.  20-40 minute waits are just as common as MTA Staff telling people to just get on the bus (if they can) at this point.

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17 minutes ago, Q43 Floral Park said:

They keep cutting Bx1/2 service when they just need to find a way to stop it from choking at Fordham...

I'd argue riders on the Bx12 local have been confused longer than SBS has been around though.

The only place it says University Heights is on the schedule and that's always been filled with errors. For some time, it showed the local runs ending at Fordham Plz, now makes it seem like the day time runs don't stop at Fordham/Sedgwick which is the last x-fer to Inwood.  The westbound designation sign/pole signage have been wrong for 12-13 years and MTA never announced the change in the last stop. More often than not, when the W/B Bx12 local gets to Fordham Hill, there are passengers wondering where they are and operators handing out x-fers. As far as I've been able to tell, it's also the only Bronx route with no actual terminal/layover area.

 

lol I think MTA learned their lesson about giving Riverdale extra short turns after that Bx7 mess but that extra 20 run an hour will be useful.

Lawrence St is right, there's been little effort made to address a growing problem. The Bx9 has always bunched but it used to be able to make up the time it lost on Fordham, along Broadway (the biggest issue was having the Bx7/20 turn at the end of the light sequence at 231). While the development along the B'way has been beneficial to the community at large, some entity failed to account for/choose to ignore the fact that Broadway really only had 2 lanes from 230-239 sts and then choose not to build an additional road to support the new traffic (ex. extending Putnam Avenue W as far south as they could). They've installed sidewalk buildouts at 231/238 and traffic lights at Kimberly & Verveleen Places (my gut says one is also coming at 237 St), because the drivers are out of control. I know you know the (1) has been out most weekends, so that adds shuttle buses plus lane/bridge closures to the mix. Meanwhile the Bx9 has not adapted to the times: No Limited Service, no official short turns at 225 heading back east or any before W Farms heading west.  20-40 minute waits are just as common as MTA Staff telling people to just get on the bus (if they can) at this point.

If things go our way, we'll be having a lot more Bx10 running to and from 231st and Broadway during rush hour.  There's already a lot of them in the AM, but not any in the PM.  That's been something that Assemblyman Dinowitz has been working on and appears to finally have gotten the (MTA) to agree to.

http://riverdalepress.com/stories/answer-found-to-bx10-troubles,65613

I don't necessarily agree that the Bx7 is better. It still bunches terribly at times with large gaps in service.

Speaking of 231st, I was down there refilling a Metrocard recently, and as I was making my way to the MVM, someone on Broadway was yelling at a driver about them driving recklessly and they didn't hold back with the expletives either.

Generally in Riverdale reckless driving isn't a problem, but now that we've had all of these damn Ubers and cab drivers driving around the neighborhood that don't live here, all bets are off.  I'm becoming sick of it.  The idling. They come flying up my street (I live on a hill on a quiet street) and seeing cars flying down the block is not something we're used to.  I may push for speed blocks or more enforcement. Also lots of U-turns going on with these people.  Definitely out of control. One Sunday I was walking to the express bus and this cabbie comes flying down the street turns right onto Henry Hudson Parkway as I crossing and almost ran me over. I was furious.  You expect to be run over on the Grand Concourse.  However, people are generally more civilized in Riverdale, but as I said with these cabbies now they don't care what neighborhood they're in.

The Bx9 is also suffering from extreme amounts of fare beating, something you and Lawrence left out.  After 225th Southbound, I'd say all bets are off for people actually paying.  You have people constantly looking to sneak in through the back door and actually hoping for a packed bus so that they don't have to pay which holds up service. I took it once a few years ago from Fordham to transfer to the Bx7 after missing my BxM4 to the City and couldn't believe it.  Never again. The bus was PACKED, TONS of fare beaters and the trip took forever. I got off at 225th and Broadway because there was no air to speak of and I was becoming overheated with the crowd on the bus even though it was in the winter time.

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18 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

If things go our way, we'll be having a lot more Bx10 running to and from 231st and Broadway during rush hour.  There's already a lot of them in the AM, but not any in the PM.  That's been something that Assemblyman Dinowitz has been working on and appears to finally have gotten the (MTA) to agree to.

http://riverdalepress.com/stories/answer-found-to-bx10-troubles,65613

I don't necessarily agree that the BX7 is better. It still bunches terribly at times with large gaps in service.

I feel like if you polled daily Bx10 riders the last thing they would say is  "...breaking up the bus route into two parts... it’ll make things more efficient, and it should improve service for people."

How does one admit there are huge crowds in both directions and then only bargain for more service to Riverdale? Why would you push for the same plan that failed on the Bx7, on the Bx10 and minus the artics? Speaking of which, why not ask if KB could trade some 40fts for Artics or take a couple off the Bx1/2 during rush hours? If people are having problems getting from North Riverdale to "way way downtown ... Wall St" during regular work hours, why aren't we pushing for improved BxM18 service (idk more service + some runs that skip Midtown)? WHY would you quote two riders in article on Bx10 troubles if the proposed solution isn't even viable for them?

I never said the Bx7 got better...

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49 minutes ago, Q43 Floral Park said:

I feel like if you polled daily Bx10 riders the last thing they would say is  "...breaking up the bus route into two parts... it’ll make things more efficient, and it should improve service for people."

How does one admit there are huge crowds in both directions and then only bargain for more service to Riverdale? Why would you push for the same plan that failed on the Bx7, on the Bx10 and minus the artics? Speaking of which, why not ask if KB could trade some 40fts for Artics or take a couple off the Bx1/2 during rush hours? If people are having problems getting from North Riverdale to "way way downtown ... Wall St" during regular work hours, why aren't we pushing for improved BxM18 service (idk more service + some runs that skip Midtown)? WHY would you quote two riders in article on Bx10 troubles if the proposed solution isn't even viable for them?

I never said the Bx7 got better...

It isn't that there hasn't been a push for more BxM18 service.  Believe me, I've been pushing for it for years. Senator Klein wrote a letter on my behalf pushing for expanded BxM18 service particularly in the morning, citing unreliable BxM1 and BxM2 service, and there are many riders that don't care for the limited BxM18 in the morning. It simply ends too early in the morning.

I favor more shuttle buses for Riverdale.  They work efficiently in the morning, and in fact I've used some of them at times to reach 231st, and I'm not sure why they were so "inefficient" on the Bx7?  The subway crowds are generally going to and from Riverdale moreso than the other way, and I'm not sure why he said that to be honest. Even so, many riders can opt for the Bx1 going the other way.  The Bx1 isn't an option for most going to Riverdale, who like myself live up the hills.

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That's not the only issue with the Bx9, on numerous occasions, there would be an accident or a lane closure at 262nd St and all the buses can no longer turn around because they're artics.

Not only that, the Bx9 is DELAYED ALL THE TIME during the day. From traffic to three wheelchairs at once it's ridiculous. The Bx9 needs a LTD service, like NOW.

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On 6/29/2018 at 2:37 PM, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Staten Island

S74: Weekday Service Changes

  • Overnight trips from Bricktown Mall depart 5 minutes earlier
  • The 6:20 AM trip from Targee Street/DeKalb Street to St. George has been discontinued
  • Service operates every 12 minutes from 7-7:50 PM instead of every 15 minutes

Those changes were already on the schedule. I remember you posted about this before.

On 6/29/2018 at 2:45 PM, Lil 57 said:

- 13-33 minutes, that's a long range

- I don't think any SBS services should have 30 min headways at any time. 15 max.

The S79 runs every 20 minutes in the evening. I don't think that's really a problem.

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On 7/4/2018 at 10:43 AM, Lawrence St said:

That's not the only issue with the Bx9, on numerous occasions, there would be an accident or a lane closure at 262nd St and all the buses can no longer turn around because they're artics.

Not only that, the Bx9 is DELAYED ALL THE TIME during the day. From traffic to three wheelchairs at once it's ridiculous. The Bx9 needs a LTD service, like NOW.

The LTD trips would be delayed in the same traffic as the locals.

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3 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

The LTD trips would be delayed in the same traffic as the locals.

Not if it would be rerouted via Bailey, then it would avoid all the congestion along Broadway.

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9 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Not if it would be rerouted via Bailey, then it would avoid all the congestion along Broadway.

 

So the LTD trips would lose their connections with the Bx7/Bx20, and they would skip the relief point at 225th/Broadway.

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This Saturday will be the last day of service for the M4 from Penn Station. Signs are up on bus stops indicating that. However, it indicates taking the Q32 to Madison Avenue and transferring anywhere between 32nd and 57th Streets. Perhaps the M4 will be going to 32 Street, but I don't know where it will terminate, because the signs do not have them. Of course, as usual, none of this is up on the MTA website.

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