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MTA Bus Operations: On-board screens and announcements

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So looks like all C40s are getting Version 2. I wonder when they're gonna install screens on the 2015 XD40s. 

Do yall think the Orion VIIs Diesels are gonna get the screens? Those are 2011 models too. 

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7 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

So looks like all C40s are getting Version 2. I wonder when they're gonna install screens on the 2015 XD40s. 

Do yall think the Orion VIIs Diesels are gonna get the screens? Those are 2011 models too. 

193 and 592 have version 2 screens as well. 

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7 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

So looks like all C40s are getting Version 2. I wonder when they're gonna install screens on the 2015 XD40s. 

Do yall think the Orion VIIs Diesels are gonna get the screens? Those are 2011 models too. 

 

They probably will once they get some more C40s done. 

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7 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Are they ever going to fix those screens on the s79?

It’s not really a priority because those buses are on their way out soon so they will get to them during the maintenance rotation.

1 hour ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

@East New York

Whats up man. Can this thread get pinned? I feel that we should have an official roster on the first page for buses with the screens and the scren types. 

Let me review what is already pinned, and go from there.

To answer your other question, everything 2010 and newer is supposed to get the screens.

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3 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

7298 Version 3

NO WHY...version 3 is awful. Does it have the same screen placement as the other XD40s? Since this would be the first XD40 with version 3. 

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5 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

NO WHY...version 3 is awful. Does it have the same screen placement as the other XD40s? Since this would be the first XD40 with version 3. 

Same placement back to back, but there's an unnecessarily big gap between the two like the front sign on an XN40 because of that stupid metal bar in the back.

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6 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

NO WHY...version 3 is awful. Does it have the same screen placement as the other XD40s? Since this would be the first XD40 with version 3. 

 

Negative. 7256 has it also. 

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7275 also has version 3...these signs aren't hard to install

233, 384, 407, 409 and a couple other C40LFs have Version 2 from JG

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the screens on 805 are on and I'm not a fan 

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The back sign is completely blank, the announcements lag and some of the transfers are just plain wrong.

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Seeing these on LFS’s, they’re not visible from the back because the second screen is so close to the first.

And I get that the second couldn’t go over the rear-most Stop Requested light because of the AC vents...but a LED bar at the rear door - like BeeLine buses - would’ve been more useful.

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12 hours ago, Deucey said:

Seeing these on LFS’s, they’re not visible from the back because the second screen is so close to the first.

And I get that the second couldn’t go over the rear-most Stop Requested light because of the AC vents...but a LED bar at the rear door - like BeeLine buses - would’ve been more useful.

Its not because of the AC vents because that's the location of the screens on the newer LFS buses coming in. It's because of the stupid stop requested light in the rear. 

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On 10/31/2018 at 6:20 PM, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Version 2 seems to work good with Limited and SBS routes. Seems too delayed to be for local use. If the contract is split, would've been nice to give V2 to buses that are gonna be used strictly for SBS. Such as the XN60s, the new LFSAs, ENYs XD40s and the next order of XD60s for SBS use. 

Local buses should've received Version 4 because it responds quicker for stops that have a shorter distance. 

Honestly they should've gone with Version 4 all along because it would've been perfect for all bus models. For the XD40s, you could've position them like the C40LFs, for XD60s/XN60s you can position the first small screen right behind the driver, the second right after the middle door on the ceiling, and the third right before the middle door on the ceiling. For the LFS would've had two wide screens positioned just how they are now. 

Just my two cents, I feel like nothing gets thought through with the MTA. Just do and keep it moving. Who decides on the types of screens and the placement of the screens in the buses? Is it one person or a group of people? 

 

That's a good way to sum it up.

Kinda like moving fast and breaking things.

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Posted (edited)

Most units are equipped with transfer announcements. There may be some without them for now. Otherwise, let's update the list:

As of April 17th, 2019:

 
Ver. 1 (Strategic) (not in service):

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7304-7314, 7316-7351

Ver. 2 (Vianova):

2010 NovaBus LFSA: 1234-1279, 1284-1285

2011-13 NovaBus LFSA: 5264-5266, 5799, 5822-5823, 5896, 5901-5935, 5965-5966

2011-13 New Flyer C40LF: 193, 206, 233-234, 238, 284, 324, 362, 384, 390, 407, 409, 428, 545, 567, 592

2011 NovaBus LFS: 8001

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7315, 7467, 7471-7475, 7477, 7481, 7482 

2015-2016 NovaBus LFS: 8090-8503

2017-2018 New Flyer XN60: 1000-1109

2018-2019 New Flyer XD40: 7484-7850

2018 New Flyer XDE40: 9500-9509

2018-2019 NovaBus LFS: 8504-8754

2018-2019 NovaBus LFSA: 5531-5602

Ver. 3 (CleverDevices) (many NGs and 7140 not in service; all activated screens have outdated transfer announcements):

2008 Orion VII NG: 3800-3959^

A small number of these units (^) do not have screens installed and will be installed at a later date. If anyone knows which units don't have screen please post the number below.

2009 Orion VII NG: 4019*, 4020-4036, 4038, 4070-4095*, 4115, 4117-4118, 4119, 4122, 4127, 4137, 4140-4143, 4245-4278*, 4486-4488, 4642, 4646

These units (*) may feature an older version.

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7140, 7161, 7256, 7275, 7298

2016-17 New Flyer XN40: 673-810

2018-2019 New Flyer XD60: 6126-6233

Ver. 4 (Luminator):

2011-13 New Flyer C40LF: 570-591, 593-658

Test units:

2014-2016 Prevost X3-45: 2729, 2788

 

Note: There may be more NGs with new screens as well as the 2014-15 XD40. Try to be on the lookout if you can.

Edited by MysteriousBtrain
Quick fix up and clean up

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Not sure if this was mentioned, but when an Orion pops up on the M79/86 SBS, the announcements tend to go haywire, saying "UNDERSCORE UNDERSCORE 2 UNDERSCORE".

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