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MTA Bus Operations: On-board screens and announcements

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2 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

I'd rather one that works perfectly than half assed from different companies. Who cares how long it takes. They installed the Version 2s on all the Novas in S.I and boom, they don't work LMAO. What's the difference from not having one and it not working? The ones on the MTA Bus C40LFs are spot on in terms of accuracy leaving and arriving at stops, refresh rates, announcing transfers and more. 

MTA cares so long as they are paying someone to install them and therefore footing labor costs lol

 

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13 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

I'd rather one that works perfectly than half assed from different companies. Who cares how long it takes. They installed the Version 2s on all the Novas in S.I and boom, they don't work LMAO. What's the difference from not having one and it not working? The ones on the MTA Bus C40LFs are spot on in terms of accuracy leaving and arriving at stops, refresh rates, announcing transfers and more. 

When they aren't showing the blue screen of death LMAO 

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I just actually realized XD60 6126 doesn't have the screens placed in the same positions due to the HVAC in the back. There's a screen right in front of the first pair of double forward seats when you walk up the steps in the back on the side opposite the doors.

They really couldn't find another place to put the screens? 

For the XD60 model...I would personally put a half screen right behind the GPS box like the C40s have, and then one right over the middle door, and then another half screen on the left side on the gray panel of the back half of the articulated joint, with a beam holding it vertical and horizontal to the floor and window. 

 

Edit: can someone quickly PM me how to upload photos to a thread? 

 

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1 hour ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

I just actually realized XD60 6126 doesn't have the screens placed in the same positions due to the HVAC in the back. There's a screen right in front of the first pair of double forward seats when you walk up the steps in the back on the side opposite the doors.

They really couldn't find another place to put the screens? 

For the XD60 model...I would personally put a half screen right behind the GPS box like the C40s have, and then one right over the middle door, and then another half screen on the left side on the gray panel of the back half of the articulated joint, with a beam holding it vertical and horizontal to the floor and window. 

 

Edit: can someone quickly PM me how to upload photos to a thread? 

 

You can upload on social media and post the photo link.

As for the screens I'm not sure if this is possible either with the HVAC but maybe do a design similar with the LFSA?

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38 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

You can upload on social media and post the photo link.

As for the screens I'm not sure if this is possible either with the HVAC but maybe do a design similar with the LFSA?

They can't because they would basically be positioning the screen for only the last 4-5 rows of the bus to see. Same thing with the front section. That's why they do the reverse/forward facing screens on Xcelsior models. The only model that would have it similar to the LFS/LFSA are the XN40s because they don't have that angular HVAC system in the front. That's why I prefer the MTA bus C40 model screen placement because that would work perfectly on Xcelsiors. The C40s should have the same positionings as LFS 8504. The LFSAs that are on the M15SBS and the ex Q44 SBS models are positioned perfectly, I haven't been the 2018 LFSAs at Gun Hill but looks like that third screen is a bit too far back and lined up along the rear steps. This makes the screens have to be tilted so people's head don't hit it. 

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8146 finally has transfer announcements 🙌🏾. Finally making progress with these screens, now if only the refresh rate can be improved I'm set. 

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Every 8000 I rode had the screens fully working with TRANSFERS😍. 8146, 8290, and 8161. Oh I'm so happy because it looks OFFICIAL and all pronunciation of bus routes are correct. Only kinks they need to fix now are stops with abbreviations like MT=Mount, CEM=Cemetery, and APTS=Apartments 

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5 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

8146 finally has transfer announcements 🙌🏾. Finally making progress with these screens, now if only the refresh rate can be improved I'm set. 

Are they updating these one at a time? Isn’t there technology that can update all the screens all at once wirelessly?

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26 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Are they updating these one at a time? Isn’t there technology that can update all the screens all at once wirelessly?

Idk but all the ones I was on had the updates.

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4646 has screens if wasn't mentioned already. (Not activated though)

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As of January 26th, 2019:

 
Ver. 1 (Strategic) (not in service):

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7304-7314, 7316-7351

Ver. 2 (Vianova):

2009 Orion VII NG: 4245, 4247, 4646

2010 NovaBus LFSA: 1234-1279, 1284-1285

2011-13 NovaBus LFSA: 5799, 5822-5823, 5896, 5901-5935, 5965-5966

2011-13 New Flyer C40LF: 284, 324

2011 NovaBus LFS: 8001

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7315, 7467, 7471-7475, 7477, 7481, 7482 

2015-2016 NovaBus LFS: 8090-8503*

*8146, 8161, 8290 feature transfer announcements

2017-2018 New Flyer XN60: 1000-1109

2018-2019 New Flyer XD40: 7484-7850*

*7561, 7591 feature transfer announcements

2018 New Flyer XDE40: 9500-9509

2018-2019 NovaBus LFS: 8504

2018-2019 NovaBus LFSA: 5531-5602

Ver. 3 (CleverDevices) (many NGs and 7140 not in service; all activated screens have outdated transfer announcements):

2008 Orion VII NG: 3800-3539

2009 Orion VII NG: 4019, 4024, 4038, 4070-4095, 4119, 4246, 4248-4278, 4486

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7140

2018-2019 New Flyer XD60: 6126

Ver. 4 (Luminator):

2011-13 New Flyer C40LF: 570-658

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34 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

As of January 26th, 2019:

 
Ver. 1 (Strategic) (not in service):

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7304-7314, 7316-7351

Ver. 2 (Vianova):

2009 Orion VII NG: 4245, 4247

2010 NovaBus LFSA: 1234-1279, 1284-1285

2011-13 NovaBus LFSA: 5799, 5822-5823, 5896, 5901-5935, 5965-5966

2011-13 New Flyer C40LF: 284, 324

2011 NovaBus LFS: 8001

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7315, 7467, 7471-7475, 7477, 7481, 7482 

2015-2016 NovaBus LFS: 8090-8503*

*8146, 8161, 8290 feature transfer announcements

2017-2018 New Flyer XN60: 1000-1109

2018-2019 New Flyer XD40: 7484-7850*

*7561, 7591 feature transfer announcements

2018 New Flyer XDE40: 9500-9509

2018-2019 NovaBus LFS: 8504

2018-2019 NovaBus LFSA: 5531-5602

Ver. 3 (CleverDevices) (many NGs and 7140 not in service; all activated screens have outdated transfer announcements):

2008 Orion VII NG: 3800-3539

2009 Orion VII NG: 4019, 4024, 4038, 4070-4095, 4119, 4246, 4248-4278, 4486, 4646

2014-2015 New Flyer XD40: 7140

2018-2019 New Flyer XD60: 6126

Ver. 4 (Luminator):

2011-13 New Flyer C40LF: 570-658

I forgot to say that 4646 he version 2, not version 3.

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12 minutes ago, Lil 57 said:

I forgot to say that 4646 he version 2, not version 3.

Fixed.

Also I'm not exactly sure about what versions the newer NGs are getting so if you guys can tell the version/manufacturer of the screen that would be great. Also of course any other mistakes here be sure to point them out.

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362 and 5264 both have version 2 screens. 6128 has version 3 as well unfortunately so I'm guessing that whole batch will have clever devices. Well its for SBS service so it shouldn't be too bad with refresh rates. 

Side note: Why are they putting screens on the NGs? Put them on the 2015 New Flyer XD40s...I still think anything from that 2014-2016 batch of XD40s and LFSs should have the USB ports and screens since they were literally LARGE orders right before the whole new scheme announcement. Well they're up for repaints this year so lets see what happens. 

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9 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

362 and 5264 both have version 2 screens. 6128 has version 3 as well unfortunately so I'm guessing that whole batch will have clever devices. Well its for SBS service so it shouldn't be too bad with refresh rates. 

Side note: Why are they putting screens on the NGs? Put them on the 2015 New Flyer XD40s...I still think anything from that 2014-2016 batch of XD40s and LFSs should have the USB ports and screens since they were literally LARGE orders right before the whole new scheme announcement. Well they're up for repaints this year so lets see what happens. 

I knew about 5264-5266 having screens, but I keep forgetting to put them in the list for some reason. I'll be sure to put 5264-5266 as well as 362 and 6128 down in the next update.

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13 hours ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Idk but all the ones I was on had the updates.

I picked up 8257 last night from the ferry and they asked me to do a 76 trip before going back to the depot. I get outside the ferry and it started doing the transfers. Had me tripping for a bit. 

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1 hour ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

Here's photos of 8146 and 8290. 

8146

IMG-4519_zps0mklmn8j.jpg

8290

IMG-4524_zpsnlmwowr3.jpg

 

Looks like many buses are starting to get transfer announcements now. 7551 has transfer announcements available as well.

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19 minutes ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Looks like many buses are starting to get transfer announcements now. 7551 has transfer announcements available as well.

About damn time these transfer announcements are rolling ahead (sorry. I'm just impatient with these upgrades). Also, any videos of the transfer announcements yet? I'm dying to hear how they are on the buses themselves.

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5 hours ago, MysteriousBtrain said:

Also I'm not exactly sure about what versions the newer NGs are getting so if you guys can tell the version/manufacturer of the screen that would be great. Also of course any other mistakes here be sure to point them out.

What do the different versions look like

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3 hours ago, JeremiahC99 said:

About damn time these transfer announcements are rolling ahead (sorry. I'm just impatient with these upgrades). Also, any videos of the transfer announcements yet? I'm dying to hear how they are on the buses themselves.

They sound like every other announcement that system does, same voice and tone.

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