busdude2 Posted January 6, 2019 Share #26 Posted January 6, 2019 You are so right about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share #27 Posted January 6, 2019 You won't hear updates about the order THIS fast....have some patience. Just because the RFP was to close at a certain time or date, doesn't mean we'll know right away who they picked(even though it's pretty obvious it'll be New Flyer). Pretty sure they have to get their specifications down first before confirming and announcing the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted January 6, 2019 Share #28 Posted January 6, 2019 That sounds right thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missabassie Posted January 6, 2019 Share #29 Posted January 6, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 12:10 AM, Ron2themax said: Should have been awarded already since late lastyear. My assumption is NJT is giving the world to VanHool of getting their revamped artic product to NJ Transit's liking, otherwise just award the contract to New Flyer of their Xcelsior. I want be surprise if NJ Transit is thinking about a custom job of the Xcelsior which NJT is know for...custom made buses WTF?? Jeez.... what a waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted January 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Missabassie said: WTF?? Jeez.... what a waste of money. It was just an assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 7, 2019 Share #31 Posted January 7, 2019 I'm assuming these will most likely have two doors instead of three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron2themax Posted January 8, 2019 Share #32 Posted January 8, 2019 19 hours ago, Around the Horn said: I'm assuming these will most likely have two doors instead of three? If they want more seating capacity, otherwise do what King County Metro(Seattle) did with their Xcelsiors XDE60s. Suburbans have two doors and the transits 3 doors. Gotta factor costs and ad revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 10, 2019 Author Share #33 Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 11:21 PM, Around the Horn said: I'm assuming these will most likely have two doors instead of three? They technically could do three doors by splitting the suburban batch as two and the transit batch as three, but seeing as how transit Neoplans have eventually made their way to the Fairview routes, it makes sense to keep it uniform. I think two is the way to go for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 11, 2019 Share #34 Posted January 11, 2019 New Flyer won the contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OIG119 Posted January 11, 2019 Share #35 Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, trainfan22 said: New Flyer won the contract What's the source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 12, 2019 Share #36 Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, OIG119 said: What's the source? http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=332483 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron2themax Posted January 12, 2019 Share #37 Posted January 12, 2019 I still think they should of order 100 artics or at least have an option of 20. Fairview needs an extra 7 artics. Routes 13 and 39 sees Nabis practically everyday, but heck this is NJ Transit here. They know better than me with their data sheets😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron2themax Posted January 16, 2019 Share #38 Posted January 16, 2019 NJ TRANSIT BOARD APPROVES PURCHASE OF 85 ARTICULATED BUSES NEWARK, NJ — NJ TRANSIT’s Board of Directors today approved a contract with New Flyer of America for the purchase of 85 articulated buses. The purchase allows the retirement of the current articulated fleet which has been in revenue service for more than 15 years. Articulated buses are 60 feet long and consist of two segments permanently attached to each other through a pivot point which allows them to negotiate urban traffic and sharp turns. “This purchase allows NJ TRANSIT to continue retiring our older buses in the fleet, which increases mechanical reliability and ultimately helps us better serve our customers with improved on-time performance and important customer amenities such as USB charging ports on the seats,’’ said NJ TRANSIT Executive Director Kevin Corbett. “As we continue to restore NJ TRANSIT to national prominence, an improved customer experience is the hallmark of that effort. By having our buses spend more time on the road and less time in the shop, customers will notice these improvements at bus stops across New Jersey.” This purchase is a “one for one,’’ replacement of NJ TRANSIT’s aging articulated bus fleet as it reaches the end of its expected service life. It is anticipated that the first vehicle delivery will take approximately 8 months from Notice to Proceed, and the final vehicle will be delivered by the end of 2020. Total cost for this purchase is $65.8 million plus five-percent for contingencies. The articulated buses feature low flooring, which allows customers to embark and disembark more quickly, wheelchair ramps and camera systems to improve customer security and ensure bus operators are better informed of their surroundings. New customer amenities include USB charging ports, bicycle racks, an improved intercom system and LED lighting. NJ TRANSIT directly operates and contracts bus services that carry 154.5 million customer trips (FY17 data) throughout New Jersey and to New York City and Philadelphia. Articulated buses are used on routes where ridership levels warrant the use of higher capacity vehicles. Request for Proposals (RFP) went out in August 2018 for the base order of 85 articulated buses with an option to purchase 85 additional articulated buses. This contract will be funded through a combination of Federal Transit Administration funds and Transportation Trust Funds. About NJ TRANSIT NJ TRANSIT is the nation's largest statewide public transportation system providing more than 944,000 weekday trips on 251 bus routes, three light rail lines, 12 commuter rail lines and through Access Link paratransit service. It is the third largest transit system in the country with 165 rail stations, 62 light rail stations and more than 19,000 bus stops linking major points in New Jersey, New York and Philadelphia. This is from NJ Transit's website in case some of you don't know the details retaining the bus order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted January 16, 2019 Share #39 Posted January 16, 2019 Here's the color version of the rendering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go25 Posted January 17, 2019 Share #40 Posted January 17, 2019 So they will be a low floor fleet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted January 17, 2019 Share #41 Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, go25 said: So they will be a low floor fleet? Well, yes.. they're ordering XD60s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share #42 Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, go25 said: So they will be a low floor fleet? Of course...no one makes high floor transit buses anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron2themax Posted January 17, 2019 Share #43 Posted January 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Cait Sith said: Of course...no one makes high floor transit buses anymore. Well accept for Eldorado National. At least two models in their portfolio they sell are high floor, but what TA in their right mind would buy high floor transits nowadays. Colleges and shuttle services I can see ordering those models respectfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron2themax Posted January 17, 2019 Share #44 Posted January 17, 2019 19 hours ago, Ron2themax said: NJ TRANSIT BOARD APPROVES PURCHASE OF 85 ARTICULATED BUSES NEWARK, NJ — NJ TRANSIT’s Board of Directors today approved a contract with New Flyer of America for the purchase of 85 articulated buses. The purchase allows the retirement of the current articulated fleet which has been in revenue service for more than 15 years. Articulated buses are 60 feet long and consist of two segments permanently attached to each other through a pivot point which allows them to negotiate urban traffic and sharp turns. “This purchase allows NJ TRANSIT to continue retiring our older buses in the fleet, which increases mechanical reliability and ultimately helps us better serve our customers with improved on-time performance and important customer amenities such as USB charging ports on the seats,’’ said NJ TRANSIT Executive Director Kevin Corbett. “As we continue to restore NJ TRANSIT to national prominence, an improved customer experience is the hallmark of that effort. By having our buses spend more time on the road and less time in the shop, customers will notice these improvements at bus stops across New Jersey.” This purchase is a “one for one,’’ replacement of NJ TRANSIT’s aging articulated bus fleet as it reaches the end of its expected service life. It is anticipated that the first vehicle delivery will take approximately 8 months from Notice to Proceed, and the final vehicle will be delivered by the end of 2020. Total cost for this purchase is $65.8 million plus five-percent for contingencies. The articulated buses feature low flooring, which allows customers to embark and disembark more quickly, wheelchair ramps and camera systems to improve customer security and ensure bus operators are better informed of their surroundings. New customer amenities include USB charging ports, bicycle racks, an improved intercom system and LED lighting. NJ TRANSIT directly operates and contracts bus services that carry 154.5 million customer trips (FY17 data) throughout New Jersey and to New York City and Philadelphia. Articulated buses are used on routes where ridership levels warrant the use of higher capacity vehicles. Request for Proposals (RFP) went out in August 2018 for the base order of 85 articulated buses with an option to purchase 85 additional articulated buses. This contract will be funded through a combination of Federal Transit Administration funds and Transportation Trust Funds. About NJ TRANSIT NJ TRANSIT is the nation's largest statewide public transportation system providing more than 944,000 weekday trips on 251 bus routes, three light rail lines, 12 commuter rail lines and through Access Link paratransit service. It is the third largest transit system in the country with 165 rail stations, 62 light rail stations and more than 19,000 bus stops linking major points in New Jersey, New York and Philadelphia. This is from NJ Transit's website in case some of you don't know the details retaining the bus order 17 hours ago, Around the Horn said: Here's the color version of the rendering What caught my eye in the RFP is NJT has an option for 85 addional artics. All I can say is that they should pick up the option, but understand it's a wait and see approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share #45 Posted January 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Ron2themax said: Well accept for Eldorado National. At least two models in their portfolio they sell are high floor, but what TA in their right mind would buy high floor transits nowadays. Colleges and shuttle services I can see ordering those models respectfully And they haven't made one in like...what...8-10 years now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron2themax Posted January 17, 2019 Share #46 Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Cait Sith said: And they haven't made one in like...what...8-10 years now? If that's the case then they should scrap their high-floor model knowing full well it doesn't sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmansports Posted February 21, 2019 Share #47 Posted February 21, 2019 Has the RFP gone out for the 290 40’ft cruiser order ? The bid specs where created alongside the 85 articulated order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted February 27, 2019 Share #48 Posted February 27, 2019 New Flyer's FB page announced that NJT was going to order all 170 (base 85+option 85) buses. The link doesn't appear on the NFI website, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 28, 2019 Share #49 Posted February 28, 2019 16 hours ago, GojiMet86 said: New Flyer's FB page announced that NJT was going to order all 170 (base 85+option 85) buses. The link doesn't appear on the NFI website, though. Was or is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion6025 Posted February 28, 2019 Share #50 Posted February 28, 2019 43 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: Was or is? is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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