BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 2, 2018 Share #1 Posted September 2, 2018 Overall, not looking good. Here's the rundown The Bronx: Bx5: AM Service Reduction, Services Increases in the Afternoon and Evening Buses will operate every 15-20 minutes instead of every 9 minutes before 6:30 AM between Soundview and Pelham Bay (Weekdays) Service will operate every 10 minutes during middays instead of every 12 minutes (Weekdays; frequencies doubled past Soundview) PM Peak service operates every 6-7 minutes instead of every 8 minutes (Weekdays) Midday service operates every 9-10 minutes instead of every 10-12 minutes (Weekdays and Saturdays) The 6:03 AM trip from Bay Plaza has been discontinued (Saturdays) Saturday afternoon service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes Sunday AM and evening service runs every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes Bx8: Less Service South of Westchester Square, Slightly More Service to the North The 6:09 AM from Westchester Square to Locust Point now originates in Locust at 5:45 AM Service runs every 8-12 minutes during the AM instead of every 6-10 minutes Short-turns between Locust Point and Westchester Square between 10 AM and 5:20 PM have been discontinued Additional short-turns between Williamsbridge and Westchester Square added at 4:05 PM and 4:23 PM Bx10: Weekday AM Reverse-Peak Service Improvements Service operates every 3-6 minutes instead of every 5-9 minutes PM runtimes from Norwood between 3 PM and 6 PM have changed Bx11: Weekday early AM Service Decreases Early AM service operates every 5-8 minutes instead of every 4-6 minutes Sunday PM schedule times have changed Bx12 Local: Service Decreases (besides the reduction from Summer Levels) Weekday AM Service runs every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes Weekday late evening service runs every 20 minutes instead of every 15 minutes Bx12 SBS: Reductions in Service Levels Service on Saturdays have been reduced from Summer Levels, however it is a net increase from the previous non-summer schedule Bx13: Service Increases Slightly more service in the post-AM rush hour shoulder Service runs every 3-5 minutes instead of every 4-6 minutes in the AM & PM rush Sunday Midday Service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes Bx16: Weekend Service Span Increases The last Saturday bus from Norwood departs at 12:30 AM instead of 11:30 PM The last Saturday bus to Norwood departs at 1:15 AM instead of 12:15 AM The last Sunday bus from Norwood departs at 12:00 AM instead of 11:00 PM The last Sunday bus to Norwood departs at 12:40 AM instead of 11:40 PM Bx20: PM Service Span Increase The last bus to Riverdale in the PM departs at 7:57 PM instead of 7:38 PM The last bus to Inwood in the PM departs at 7:25 PM instead of 7:11 PM Bx21: Saturday Service Reductions The 12:36 PM Saturday trip from West Farms to Mott Haven is discontinued Saturday PM service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes Getting lazy with the Sunday service schedule (see on link) Bx26: Saturday AM Service Increases Service runs every 15 minutes instead of every 20 minutes Bx35: Saturday Service Increases Service runs every 6 minutes in the Early AM instead of every 10 minutes Service runs every 7 minutes in the late AM and early afternoon instead of every 8 minutes Service runs every 12 minutes in the late evening instead of every 15 minutes Bx40: Service Restored from Summer Levels Midday service back to 10 minute headways (from 12 minutes) BxM10: Cost-Neutral Service Changes A new 5:30 AM Weekday Trip has been added Service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 6 minutes between 7 AM and 7:30 AM Brooklyn: B6 LIMITED: AM Peak Service Improvements EB LTD service runs every 5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes WB LTD service runs every 4-5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes B7, B16: Service Levels Reverted from Summer Schedule B12: Service Adjustments Less frequent AM rush hour service towards the later periods to Prospect Gardens (every 8 minutes vs. 6 minutes) Service every 5 minutes instead of every 6 minutes during the height of the AM rush to ENY B15: Weekend Service Level Adjustments Service runs every 7-15 minutes between 4 AM and 7 AM instead of every 10-30 minutes Saturday service runs every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes during middays B35 Local: Service Decreases (Artic Accommodations) The weekday 4:15 AM and 4:38 AM trips to Brownsville have consolidated into a 4:28 AM trip AM rush service to McDonald Avenue operates every 9 minutes instead of every 6 minutes (frequencies doubled before Remsen Village during the height of the rush) Weekday PM service operates every 11-12 minutes instead of every 9-10 minutes Weekday late afternoon service operates every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes Evening service operates every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes Saturday early morning service operates every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes Weekend daytime service operates every 12 minutes instead of every 8 minutes Saturday evening service operates every 15 minutes instead of every 10 minutes Sunday AM service operates every 12 minutes instead of every 8 minutes (frequencies doubled west of McDonald Avenue) The last Sunday daytime bus from Sunset Park departs at 11:24 AM instead of 11:42 AM Saturday early evening service operates every 12 minutes instead of every 6 minutes B35 LIMITED: Service Decreases (Artic Accommodations) Midday service operates every 12 minutes instead of every 7-9 minutes PM service operates every 7 minutes instead of every 5 minutes Evening service operates every 12-20 minutes instead of every 10 minutes Saturday AM service operates every 12-20 minutes instead of every 10-15 minutes Saturday midday and afternoon service operates every 10-12 minutes instead of every 7-8 minutes Saturday late afternoon and early evening service operates every 12 minutes instead of every 9 minutes Sunday service operates every 12 minutes instead of every 8-10 minutes for most of the day Sunday late afternoon service operates every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes B36: Minor Saturday Improvements Service from 12:35-1:36 PM runs every 12 minutes instead of every 15 minutes towards Sheepshead Bay Service from 1:28-2:43 PM runs every 12-13 minutes instead of every 15 minutes towards Coney island B41: Weekday Service Decreases Rush hour levels restored to pre-summer levels Early Midday service runs every 10-12 minutes instead of every 7-8 minutes B41 LIMITED: Considerable Weekday Service Decreases Rush hour service restored to pre-summer levels Midday service runs every 9 minutes instead of every 7-8 minutes (frequencies doubled on the branches) NB Evening service runs every 13-14 minutes instead of every 7-8 minutes (frequencies doubled on the branches) SB Evening service runs every 10 minutes instead of every 9 minutes B44 Local: Service Adjustments Slightly more frequent AM rush service, and PM service reverted back to pre-summer levels Depending on where south of Avenue U one is, this could be a service improvement or a service cut: AM NB Service runs every 10 minutes north of Avenue X, and every 20 south of Avenue X, instead of every 15-16 minutes Evening Service runs every 10-12 minutes instead of every 12-15 minutes B44 SBS: Weekday Service Adjustments Avenue X short-turns are reinstated Rush hour service restored to pre-summer levels Early evening service runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes B45: Service Decreases Late PM and early evening service runs every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes Mid-evening service runs every 20-25 minutes instead of every 15-20 minutes B46 Local: Service Decreases The 8:00 AM, 4:01 PM, and 4:11 PM departure from Utica Avenue & Avenue N will now originate from Avenue H instead at 8:06 AM, 4:08 PM, and 4:18 PM respectively The 2:31 PM trip from Avenue N to Eastern Parkway has been discontinued B49: Net Service Decreases in the Northbound Direction An additional 12:08 PM trip from KCC to Avenue S has been added Service operates every 12 minutes during the late afternoon instead of every 10 minutes Evening service operates every 15 minutes NB instead of every 12 minutes Service in the late evening operates every 22 minutes NB instead of every 15 minutes B63: Weekday Service Improvements NB service from 6:30 AM to 7:00 AM runs every 5-8 minutes instead of every 7-10 minutes NB service from 3:00 PM to 4:40 PM runs every 10 minutes instead of every 11-12 minutes SB Service from 2:30 PM to 5:10 PM runs every 8-9 minutes instead of every 10 minutes B83: IDK What To Call This The Saturday trip departing Broadway Junction will arrive Pennsylvania Avenue & Livonia Avenue at 7:2s7 PM instead of 7:27 PM X28, X38: Service Adjustments The 5:40 AM trip from Bensonhurst has been split into a 5:35 AM and 5:46 AM trip (X28) Service runs every 8-9 minutes in the early AM rush instead of every 10-12 minutes (X28) Service between 6 PM and 6:40 PM runs every 12 minutes instead of every 10 minutes (X28) The 4:35 PM bus from Midtown has been split into a 4:30 PM and 4:40 PM trip (X38) Manhattan: M4: Schedule Changes Updated to show that service terminates on 32 Street Major schedule changes on evening short-turns M20: Saturday Schedule Changes Trip times have changed by up to 10 minutes during the day M60: Early AM Service Improvements Slightly more frequent service in the early AM from 4-5 AM M96: Slight Decreases in PM Service Service runs every 3-5 minutes in the PM rush instead of every 3-4 minutes M101: Service Increases More Service from Fort George in the early AM LIMITED service from Fort George starts at 5:47 AM instead of 5:39 AM LIMITED service more frequent throughout the entire day The 8:01 PM trip from Fort George to 96 Street has been converted into a LIMITED trip departing at 8:03 PM to the East Village M102: Service Decreases SB Midday short-turns to 96 Street have been discontinued M103: Service Adjustments Early midday service is slightly more frequent Early PM rush service operates every 10 minutes instead of every 12 minutes Late PM rush service operates every 15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes Queens: Q2: Minor Service Increases More service during the AM rush Q3, Q4, Q5, Q15, Q27,Q28, Q30, Q31, Q52, Q53, Q58, Q76, Q77, Q84, Q85, Q88 : Service Restored to Pre-Summer Levels The 8:41 AM Q30 Little Neck Shuttle has been discontinued Q6,Q69: Service Enhancements Daytime hours, every day, service will be no less frequent than every 10 minutes During evening hours, service is every 15-20 minutes Q7: Sunday PM Improvements Service from 1:30 PM to 7:00 PM operates every 20 minutes instead of every 30 minutes Q12: Service Decreases Service operates every 7 minutes during the later part of the AM rush instead of every 5 minutes between 165th & Flushing, and every 10 minutes from the City Line to 165th Reverse-peak service in the PM rush operates every 10 minutes instead of every 7-8 minutes Sunday service in the afternoon will operate every 10 minutes instead of every 8 minutes Q16: Saturday AM Schedule Changes Trip times have changed by up to 5 minutes on most Saturday AM buses to Flushing Q22: Increased Short-turns, Increased Frequency West of Beach 116 Street Schedule not out yet Multiple stops consolidated or relocated Q36: Little Neck Parkway Enhancements The 6:06 AM bus from Floral Park will now originate in Little Neck at 5:48 AM Service during the early AM rush on Little Neck Parkway is now every 15 minutes instead of every 30 minutes The 4:47 AM and 5:15 AM buses to Floral Park will instead go up Little Neck Parkway & terminate in Little Neck Additional trips from Bellerose to Little Neck have been added from Little Neck Parkway & 87 Drive at 6:05 AM and 6:37 AM The last bus from Jamaica to Little Neck will depart at 7:25 PM instead of 6:55 PM Q37, QM18: Service south of Conduit Avenue discontinued Schedule still not out Q46 Local: AM Peak Service Reduction Local service operates every 4-5 minutes instead of every 2-3 minutes Q54: Major Weekday Service Decreases Service operates every 7-8 minutes instead of every 3-6 minutes during the AM Service operates every 10 minutes instead of every 6-8 minutes during the PM Service operates every 8 minutes instead of every 4 minutes during the PM shoulder Less frequent early evening service Q55: PM Service Reduction Service runs every 8-10 minutes instead of every 7 minutes Q64: Saturday Service Improvement Slightly more frequent service between 6:30 AM and 8:00 AM QM5 SX: Riders Going East of 188 Street Will Now Take a Tour of Fresh Meadows: The QM5 SX trips will now loop around 188 Street, serving 69 Avenue & 64 Avenue, before heading on to Glen Oaks This route change actually makes the Super Express slower than the regular QM5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #2 Posted September 2, 2018 They are really chipping away at the Union Turnpike service. This re-design will be quite interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted September 2, 2018 Share #3 Posted September 2, 2018 the b36 change happened in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucey Posted September 2, 2018 Share #4 Posted September 2, 2018 So no SI changes today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted September 2, 2018 Share #5 Posted September 2, 2018 I cannot believe they are cutting Q46 locals without adding more LTD. Those buses are PACKED every weekday. What a disgrace. I always thought the QM5 SX was dumb to begin with since it saved all of 2 mins over the regular QM5 and was always packed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted September 2, 2018 Share #6 Posted September 2, 2018 The chopping of the Brooklyn Division continues with FB lines B41, B44, B46 and B49. You would expect increases instead decreases meanwhile the B6 gets more increases. What gives??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted September 2, 2018 4 hours ago, limitednyc said: the b36 change happened in the summer. Did it? I guess I didn't pick it up when it happened. Anyways, it would be helpful if someone has time to help archive the schedules in the wayback machine in order to make it easier to compare the schedule. Some of them date back from years and may not be current (making me look at past threads to see that I don't cover them twice). 1 hour ago, Deucey said: So no SI changes today? Any SI local bus changes were done on August 19th with the express buses. A few of the express buses had their timetables updated last week to reflect the change in routing from 5th to Lexington. I think that it's beneficial that SI stayed out of this one, based on what the other boroughs are dealing with. You might see some more tweaking if they actual go through and do another pick in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHacksJustKhaks Posted September 2, 2018 Share #8 Posted September 2, 2018 8 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Q22: Increased Short-turns, Increased Frequency West of Beach 116 Street Schedule not out yet Multiple stops consolidated or relocated ^ Im pretty sure you meant to say "Frequency East Of Beach 116" ^ Anyways, it seems like the MTA's plan of short-turning all the Q22's at Beach. 116 might finally be taking shape. Those buses are usually filled with air so I have no issue with that, so long as Q35's are kept on Newport. Im sure that the changing of stops will spark some anger for both the handicapped, and the CB14 members, but it seems the MTA is doing it regardless (no surprises). And those (mostly) increased headway's east of 116 should be good but do concern me a little bit, as I suspect there might be more bunching on the line, though this is just a prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #9 Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Future ENY OP said: The chopping of the Brooklyn Division continues with FB lines B41, B44, B46 and B49. You would expect increases instead decreases meanwhile the B6 gets more increases. What gives??? Likely due to the dollar vans and farebeating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted September 2, 2018 Share #10 Posted September 2, 2018 They really want to rush the b35 to be artics now. I expect some sort of cuts to the Bx36, but I guess that's later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted September 2, 2018 Share #11 Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Did it? I guess I didn't pick it up when it happened. Anyways, it would be helpful if someone has time to help archive the schedules in the wayback machine in order to make it easier to compare the schedule. Some of them date back from years and may not be current (making me look at past threads to see that I don't cover them twice). Any SI local bus changes were done on August 19th with the express buses. A few of the express buses had their timetables updated last week to reflect the change in routing from 5th to Lexington. I think that it's beneficial that SI stayed out of this one, based on what the other boroughs are dealing with. You might see some more tweaking if they actual go through and do another pick in October. I took a peak at the SI local routes and a few of them have some changes. S62/S92: Increased service during rush hours, but decreased service during the evening peak. S74, S78: Decreased service on Saturday and Sunday evenings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 2, 2018 Share #12 Posted September 2, 2018 - Say what you want, but I believe they're going to end up splitting the Q54 in the longrun.... The schedules say one thing, but when you're driving around in Jamaica during the PM rush & see more Q54's signed up for Fresh Pond rd than for Williamsburg Bridge Plaza, there's a cause for concern.... - All this nonsense with the Q36... They need to reinstate the Q79 - point blank, period... - B35 artic conversion.... Never thought it would happen, I'll admit... The cuts due to the capacity-per-bus increase was to be expected, but this change is going to exacerbate the (already f***ed up) traffic flow on Church that much more.... Wait until there's a bus already at a particular stop & a bus immediately behind it, has to wait on the opposite side of the light for that initial bus to clear the stop.... Most of Church only allows for one lane of moving traffic in each direction.... - The Sx trips on the Qm5 running via Fresh Meadows, to be honest, I'm surprised wasn't initially the case.... That change is immaterial to me, as I don't believe the Qm5 should exist in its current form anyway.... - The B83 change links to the B82 schedule... Anyway, looking at prior B83 schedules, nothing about that trip in question has changed... What you're pointing out is a typo. - Keep it up and the B49 south of Flatbush'll end up with "coverage" headways & ALL B44 service will end up running via Rogers/Nostrand.... - Something's up with the B45 & the declining usage during the PM rush, because I've been seeing virtually empty buses (towards Ralph) after a certain point for quite some time now (panning years).... That point is usually for the B44 (either direction) & by time it gets to Utica, you don't see near as many people getting off for the B46 (or otherwise getting off there) as you used to.... - Bx13 from what I notice has been seeing crazy increases... The little route that could... LOL. ---------------------------------------- More comments later, if I remember to, or otherwise feel up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted September 2, 2018 Share #13 Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Deucey said: So no SI changes today? We added another new reverse-peak SIM4c trip to the College of Staten Island, leaving 57th Street at 7:20 a.m. This is in addition to the 7:40 a.m. trip added last week. We adjusted SIM1c service so that there are 20-minute headways after 3:50 a.m., with trips at 4:10, 4:30 and 4:50 a.m. We added a new SIM1c trip out of Central Park South in the afternoon, departing at 2:00 p.m. --- Also the Etlingville - Huguenot shuttle will run weekdays making SIM8 stops. Departing ETC at the following times: 1015pm, 1045pm, 1110pm, 1130pm, 12am, 1230am, 1am, 130am, 2am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #14 Posted September 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, SevenEleven said: We added another new reverse-peak SIM4c trip to the College of Staten Island, leaving 57th Street at 7:20 a.m. This is in addition to the 7:40 a.m. trip added last week. We adjusted SIM1c service so that there are 20-minute headways after 3:50 a.m., with trips at 4:10, 4:30 and 4:50 a.m. We added a new SIM1c trip out of Central Park South in the afternoon, departing at 2:00 p.m. --- Also the Etlingville - Huguenot shuttle will run weekdays making SIM8 stops. Departing ETC at the following times: 1015pm, 1045pm, 1110pm, 1130pm, 12am, 1230am, 1am, 130am, 2am. They'll need more than that. Those CSI people will be out with pitchforks. LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted September 2, 2018 Share #15 Posted September 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, SevenEleven said: Also the Etlingville - Huguenot shuttle will run weekdays making SIM8 stops. Departing ETC at the following times: 1015pm, 1045pm, 1110pm, 1130pm, 12am, 1230am, 1am, 130am, 2am. @SevenElevenWhere is the public timetable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #16 Posted September 2, 2018 34 minutes ago, SevenEleven said: We added another new reverse-peak SIM4c trip to the College of Staten Island, leaving 57th Street at 7:20 a.m. This is in addition to the 7:40 a.m. trip added last week. We adjusted SIM1c service so that there are 20-minute headways after 3:50 a.m., with trips at 4:10, 4:30 and 4:50 a.m. We added a new SIM1c trip out of Central Park South in the afternoon, departing at 2:00 p.m. --- Also the Etlingville - Huguenot shuttle will run weekdays making SIM8 stops. Departing ETC at the following times: 1015pm, 1045pm, 1110pm, 1130pm, 12am, 1230am, 1am, 130am, 2am. They also added back those first four SIM10 trips that they originally converted to SIM1C trips (I assume they removed those 4:48am & 4:58am trips in the process). So the shuttle isn't doing the original loop anymore (Drumgoole-Huguenot-Woodrow to end at Arden)? 23 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: They'll need more than that. Those CSI people will be out with pitchforks. LMAO CSI already started classes last week. Those riders are already pissed. When riders first asked, the MTA said "The X10 trips in the morning had low reverse-peak ridership" (which is a lie, but on top of that, they expected them to get good reverse-peak ridership on Watchogue?). But they did add the 7:40am SIM4C trip, which is better than nothing (though definitely not enough). I notice that the only changes they made to the schedules before they took effect were the ones on that Twitter session (somebody asked about reverse-peak CSI riders, so they added the 7:40am trip. Somebody asked about early-morning SIM10 trips bypassing Downtown, so they converted them to SIM1C trips) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #17 Posted September 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said: They also added back those first four SIM10 trips that they originally converted to SIM1C trips (I assume they removed those 4:48am & 4:58am trips in the process). So the shuttle isn't doing the original loop anymore (Drumgoole-Huguenot-Woodrow to end at Arden)? CSI already started classes last week. Those riders are already pissed. When riders first asked, the MTA said "The X10 trips in the morning had low reverse-peak ridership" (which is a lie, but on top of that, they expected them to get good reverse-peak ridership on Watchogue?). But they did add the 7:40am SIM4C trip, which is better than nothing (though definitely not enough). I notice that the only changes they made to the schedules before they took effect were the ones on that Twitter session (somebody asked about reverse-peak CSI riders, so they added the 7:40am trip. Somebody asked about early-morning SIM10 trips bypassing Downtown, so they converted them to SIM1C trips) Would you stop already? The petition started quite a while ago. It was a joke and you had to ruin and try to correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 2, 2018 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said: When riders first asked, the MTA said "The X10 trips in the morning had low reverse-peak ridership" (which is a lie, but on top of that, they expected them to get good reverse-peak ridership on Watchogue?). But they did add the 7:40am SIM4C trip, which is better than nothing (though definitely not enough). I notice that the only changes they made to the schedules before they took effect were the ones on that Twitter session (somebody asked about reverse-peak CSI riders, so they added the 7:40am trip. Somebody asked about early-morning SIM10 trips bypassing Downtown, so they converted them to SIM1C trips) ...and less of Richmond (av). Along with the South beach P&R expresses & the fact that all the Hylan routes run in/out of ETC, I have a certain disapproval for the SIM3 (i.e., the x10/12 swap).... There are other changes in SI that I don't particularly care for, but those are the ones that immediately come to mind right now.... At least the SIM32 routing change was worth it (I joke, but seriously, how many routes did they leave alone/left as-was?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #19 Posted September 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, B35 via Church said: ...and less of Richmond (av). Save for the South beach P&R expresses & the fact that all the Hylan routes run in/out of ETC, I have a certain disapproval for the SIM3. At least the SIM32 routing change was worth it (I joke, but seriously, how many routes did they leave alone/left as-was?) Well the vast majority of express bus ridership in this area goes/went to the X17, because it goes right onto the SIE (and the "via Brooklyn" variants get directly into the HOV lane), so I don't find the concept of it skipping Bulls Head to be that outlandish. The X10 usage in this area was mostly people using it as a backup for the X17 (and also because it had later evening service). In the peak direction, that stretch of Victory between Richmond Avenue & CSI can get notoriously congested (which is why I liked the original idea of having the SIM33 run up Christopher Lane/Morani Street). The only route that remained exactly the same (number, schedule and all) was the SIM15 (of course, it had some stops removed, but that was all the routes. They even kept the Downtown Loop routing, though they butchered it by having it run up to Warren Street instead of Park Place for no reason). The SIM32 had the last morning trip pushed back to 8:30am, but otherwise the schedule remained exactly the same. The SIM4 runs a slightly expanded X17A schedule, but the main (stupid) change with that route is that the official SIM4/4C route has it start at the ETC, backtrack to Annadale (so much for "more direct"), and then go up Richmond Avenue (PM buses end at the ETC and don't serve Annadale at all). But on BusTime, I've seen B/Os do various things (and the signage says "Annadale via N. Gannon/via Richmond" and the BusTime feed has the following stop after the ETC listed as Richmond/Forest Hill instead of the backtrack, so it's a whole big mess) And during the times that it does run, the SIM1C runs the exact X1 schedule (only difference is it runs down 57th Street instead of taking 7th Avenue to 50th Street). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenEleven Posted September 2, 2018 Share #20 Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Union Tpke said: @SevenElevenWhere is the public timetable? If it's not on the MTA website yet, then keep checking throughout the month. They've been stealth updating the schedules, so some like the Sim6, 22/26 are current with all the changes but others are not. 1 hour ago, checkmatechamp13 said: They also added back those first four SIM10 trips that they originally converted to SIM1C trips (I assume they removed those 4:48am & 4:58am trips in the process). So the shuttle isn't doing the original loop anymore (Drumgoole-Huguenot-Woodrow to end at Arden)? Nah. I think I read it from the Twitter account that it is Sim8 stops all the way to the end. 18 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said: The SIM4 runs a slightly expanded X17A schedule, but the main (stupid) change with that route is that the official SIM4/4C route has it start at the ETC, backtrack to Annadale (so much for "more direct"), and then go up Richmond Avenue (PM buses end at the ETC and don't serve Annadale at all). But on BusTime, I've seen B/Os do various things (and the signage says "Annadale via N. Gannon/via Richmond" and the BusTime feed has the following stop after the ETC listed as Richmond/Forest Hill instead of the backtrack, so it's a whole big mess) The first/last stop is at Annadale Rd. So Annadale Rd, ETC, then Richmond Ave. They clarified this from the Command Center on the first day of the pick. It's stupid how they're not getting the schedules updated to reflect this, out of all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #21 Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, B35 via Church said: All this nonsense with the Q36... They need to reinstate the Q79 - point blank, period... And force everyone to transfer at Little Neck Parkway for the Q36 to the and lines? The Q36 extension was beneficial because unlike the Q79, the Q36 extension provides a direct connection to the Jamaica-179th Street station for commutes to Manhattan. The popularity of the one seat ride from the Little Neck Pkwy corridor to the Jamaica subway station is why the Q36 service there is boosted. In fact, this should’ve been done a long time ago. Now if they only had weekend service on Little Neck Parkway operating every 15 minutes and overnight service operating at overnight LIRR Port Washington frequencies that would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share #22 Posted September 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: And force everyone to transfer at Little Neck Parkway for the Q36 to the and lines? The Q36 extension was beneficial because unlike the Q79, the Q36 extension provides a direct connection to the Jamaica-179th Street station for commutes to Manhattan. The popularity of the one seat ride from the Little Neck Pkwy corridor to the Jamaica subway station is why the Q36 service there is boosted. In fact, this should’ve been done a long time ago. Now if they only had weekend service on Little Neck Parkway operating every 15 minutes and overnight service operating at overnight LIRR Port Washington frequencies that would be nice. The main reason for these boosts is to make it appealing to connect to/from the LIRR. Many in those areas have complained about getting to the LIRR, so the Q79 fixes this issue. This has nothing to do with the subway. Those residents already have the Q43, Q46, and Q12 if they really need the subway, which are far more frequent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted September 2, 2018 Share #23 Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, checkmatechamp13 said: Well the vast majority of express bus ridership in this area goes/went to the X17, because it goes right onto the SIE (and the "via Brooklyn" variants get directly into the HOV lane), so I don't find the concept of it skipping Bulls Head to be that outlandish. The X10 usage in this area was mostly people using it as a backup for the X17 (and also because it had later evening service). In the peak direction, that stretch of Victory between Richmond Avenue & CSI can get notoriously congested (which is why I liked the original idea of having the SIM33 run up Christopher Lane/Morani Street). I know the x17 is the primary route in the area..... I still don't, and flat out refuse to see their justification of swapping the x10 & the x12... You're going to get more riders along more of that part of Richmond av & North/South Gannon av (i.e, the very SIM33 bring up), than you are along less of Richmond av & along Watchogue rd (i.e, the SIM3).... Although it factors into it, I'm not making this near as much an issue about Bulls Head (to the tune that it looks like you may believe or are conveying here anyway) & more of an issue of the patronages of Watchogue vs N/S Gannon.... You yourself more or less allude to it with the very part of that penultimate reply of yours I emboldened.... The old network had its faults, but the planners went berserk with these changes... AFAIC, that was one of them. 24 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: And force everyone to transfer at Little Neck Parkway for the Q36 to the and lines? The Q36 extension was beneficial because unlike the Q79, the Q36 extension provides a direct connection to the Jamaica-179th Street station for commutes to Manhattan. The popularity of the one seat ride from the Little Neck Pkwy corridor to the Jamaica subway station is why the Q36 service there is boosted. In fact, this should’ve been done a long time ago. Now if they only had weekend service on Little Neck Parkway operating every 15 minutes and overnight service operating at overnight LIRR Port Washington frequencies that would be nice. Someone doesn't know their history & is relying on rhetoric There were simply more "popularity" with the Q79 to the Q36 xfer back then, than there are now with the Q36 running up to LIRR LNP directly.... They're adding this service to further justify this Q36 via LNP BS.... 15 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: The main reason for these boosts is to make it appealing to connect to/from the LIRR. Many in those areas have complained about getting to the LIRR, so the Q79 fixes this issue. This has nothing to do with the subway. Those residents already have the Q43, Q46, and Q12 if they really need the subway, which are far more frequent. Bazinga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #24 Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, B35 via Church said: Someone doesn't know their history & is relying on rhetoric..... There were simply more people taking the Q79 to the Q36 back then, than there are now with the Q36 running up to LNP directly.... They're adding this service to further justify this Q36 to LNP BS.... I believe the lower ridership was due to both routes operating every 30 minutes which was inconvient for those using it to and from the LIRR, and even those who use it to the popular Jamaica shopping district. The increased frequency to should give residents along Little Neck Parkway a more attractive alternative to walking to either Northern Blvd, Horace Harding Expressway, 260th Street, Union Turnpike, Hillside Avenue, or Jamaica Avenue, depending on where one is located and crowding into already-overcrowded buses there, especially if they can’t afford to take the LIRR and can only afford to use the subway and local buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted September 2, 2018 Share #25 Posted September 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: The main reason for these boosts is to make it appealing to connect to/from the LIRR. Many in those areas have complained about getting to the LIRR, so the Q79 fixes this issue. This has nothing to do with the subway. Those residents already have the Q43, Q46, and Q12 if they really need the subway, which are far more frequent. But they are overcrowded during rush hours and a long walk away from some areas. More frequent service on the Q36 for subway riders would provide an alternative to the expensive LIRR and the overcrowded and ever-so-popular bus routes you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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