Union Tpke Posted October 19, 2018 Share #1 Posted October 19, 2018 Screen Shot 2018-10-19 at 4.30.03 PM by Union Turnpike, on Flickr Screen Shot 2018-10-19 at 4.30.36 PM by Union Turnpike, on Flickr Screen Shot 2018-10-19 at 4.30.46 PM by Union Turnpike, on Flickr Screen Shot 2018-10-19 at 4.30.56 PM by Union Turnpike, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 19, 2018 Share #2 Posted October 19, 2018 In laymens (for those that can't see): Additions: Q77 gets two additional buses in order to provide a peak headway of 7 minutes (from 9 minutes). To provide the extra service, the Q46 and Q17 will see reductions because they analyzed the routes to have decreases in ridership: Reductions: The Q46 LTD will operate every 3 minutes instead of every 2.5 minutes in the AM Q17 Local evening service will run every 8 minutes instead of every 7 minutes. Q17 LIMITED evening service will run every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil 57 Posted October 20, 2018 Share #3 Posted October 20, 2018 Can I get the source link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 20, 2018 Share #4 Posted October 20, 2018 ARE YOU KIDDING ME? They are cutting more Q46 service?!?! I hope these moron planners get crushed to death by the angry mobs that fight to get onto the Q46 every morning. @Via Garibaldi 8 my earlier complaints about the Q46 cuts are doubled! They think they are being sneaky by cutting the locals in the fall and the limiteds in the winter. I'm going to make a stink about this to my elected officials, even though they are usually useless lumps of meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted October 20, 2018 Share #5 Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Lil 57 said: Can I get the source link? http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/181022_1000_Transit.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted October 20, 2018 Share #6 Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, QM1to6Ave said: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? They are cutting more Q46 service?!?! I hope these moron planners get crushed to death by the angry mobs that fight to get onto the Q46 every morning. @Via Garibaldi 8 my earlier complaints about the Q46 cuts are doubled! They think they are being sneaky by cutting the locals in the fall and the limiteds in the winter. I'm going to make a stink about this to my elected officials, even though they are usually useless lumps of meat. I'll bet the farm that this is all a setup for eventual SBS service.... Artics, forthcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 20, 2018 Share #7 Posted October 20, 2018 9 hours ago, B35 via Church said: I'll bet the farm that this is all a setup for eventual SBS service.... Artics, forthcoming. They should be putting the artics on now! Let them put all those D60's that are getting retired on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 20, 2018 Share #8 Posted October 20, 2018 46 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: They should be putting the artics on now! Let them put all those D60's that are getting retired on the line Are there enough artics on hand? And can QV fit them? 16 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: In laymens (for those that can't see): Additions: Q77 gets two additional buses in order to provide a peak headway of 7 minutes (from 9 minutes). To provide the extra service, the Q46 and Q17 will see reductions because they analyzed the routes to have decreases in ridership: Reductions: The Q46 LTD will operate every 3 minutes instead of every 2.5 minutes in the AM Q17 Local evening service will run every 8 minutes instead of every 7 minutes. Q17 LIMITED evening service will run every 9 minutes instead of every 8 minutes. Sounds like a revived policy of adding service only when it can be paid for by cutting something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted October 20, 2018 Share #9 Posted October 20, 2018 Just another case of robbing Peter to pay Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted October 20, 2018 Share #10 Posted October 20, 2018 Passenger volume says otherwise. You don’t really need additional buses during times enlisted. If requested, you get it. Don’t worry. Service will be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted October 20, 2018 Share #11 Posted October 20, 2018 What about Brooklyn, the Bronx, Manhattan, Staten Island & Express winter picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted October 20, 2018 Share #12 Posted October 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, FLX9304 said: What about Brooklyn, the Bronx, Manhattan, Staten Island & Express winter picks? Staten Island is still being worked on for the express side. For the local side, I know the S93 is getting additional off-peak service as part of a pilot program to see if ridership builds if they add extra service (really, they should've added the extra service to begin with, because a lot of those midday buses are overcrowded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted October 20, 2018 Share #13 Posted October 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, checkmatechamp13 said: Staten Island is still being worked on for the express side. For the local side, I know the S93 is getting additional off-peak service as part of a pilot program to see if ridership builds if they add extra service (really, they should've added the extra service to begin with, because a lot of those midday buses are overcrowded) The S93 should run on weekends in my opinion. Same with the B82+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 20, 2018 Share #14 Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Gotham Bus Co. said: Are there enough artics on hand? And can QV fit them? Sounds like a revived policy of adding service only when it can be paid for by cutting something else. I’ll take any number of article on the line at this point. The morning rush is a disaster. Let them park them in Brooklyn and drive over every day for all I care. I am fed up with this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 23, 2018 Share #15 Posted October 23, 2018 One of my local representatives got back to me today and said he and another representative will be fighting against the Q46 cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 23, 2018 Share #16 Posted October 23, 2018 59 minutes ago, QM1to6Ave said: One of my local representatives got back to me today and said he and another representative will be fighting against the Q46 cuts LMAO... I'll believe it when I see it... Then again, it's an election year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 23, 2018 Share #17 Posted October 23, 2018 8 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: LMAO... I'll believe it when I see it... Then again, it's an election year... Ha! I imagine they will write a letter, MTA will ignore it, and life goes on as usual. My hope is that these letters at least make the MTA pause before the next cut they plan to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted October 23, 2018 Share #18 Posted October 23, 2018 10 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said: One of my local representatives got back to me today and said he and another representative will be fighting against the Q46 cuts Forgive my ignorance but it's hardly a service cut, an extra minute isn't going to end the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted October 23, 2018 Share #19 Posted October 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Lawrence St said: Forgive my ignorance but it's hardly a service cut, an extra minute isn't going to end the world. Easy for you to say. The Q46 is overcrowded during the rush hour. You need all the buses you can get. That half minute cut actually reduces 4 BPH on the route. See, the MTA documents say they take an hour of data in order to make their decision. IDK exactly how that works, bur they could easily take the rush hour data and consider the weakest portion of the rush hour in order to make it look like a service cut should be made. That's why I don't trust those stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted October 23, 2018 Share #20 Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Lawrence St said: Forgive my ignorance but it's hardly a service cut, an extra minute isn't going to end the world. Let me ask you this: If 1-2 minutes make no difference, why would the MTA bother making this change in the first place to reduce headways by 2 minutes on the Q77? On paper, that may sound small, but think about how many people pack onto each bus. With a bus removed, the ripple effects continue down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 23, 2018 Share #21 Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, QM1to6Ave said: Let me ask you this: If 1-2 minutes make no difference, why would the MTA bother making this change in the first place to reduce headways by 2 minutes on the Q77? On paper, that may sound small, but think about how many people pack onto each bus. With a bus removed, the ripple effects continue down the line. Some people don't think nor do they use the routes. I've used the Q46 and it needs every bus that it has. You have basically several subway lines all ending there in Kew Gardens and these tiny 40 footer buses to deal with all of the crowds getting off of the subway. No comparison.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted October 23, 2018 Share #22 Posted October 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: Some people don't think nor do they use the routes. I've used the Q46 and it needs every bus that it has. You have basically several subway lines all ending there in Kew Gardens and these tiny 40 footer buses to deal with all of the crowds getting off of the subway. No comparison.... As I said, forgive my ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted October 23, 2018 Share #23 Posted October 23, 2018 Just now, Lawrence St said: As I said, forgive my ignorance. If they were going to cut buses like that, put artics on it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil 57 Posted October 23, 2018 Share #24 Posted October 23, 2018 5 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said: If they were going to cut buses like that, put artics on it then. I agree. The Q46 deserves artics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted October 24, 2018 Share #25 Posted October 24, 2018 12 hours ago, Lil 57 said: I agree. The Q46 deserves artics. QV Depot can't fit artics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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